Are LED's That Good?

[torontoke]

They are hard to get? They don't produce enough of them or what?

They go out of stock within hours of putting them on their site.
Having folks do YouTube videos before they are in stock didn't help.
They seem more focused on redesigning them and upgrading them then keeping them in stock.

 

[ThcGuy]

I agree with the "to damn expensive" thing and your right, they cost way to much here, even the DIY route gets real pricey. Where the hell are you that power is cheap? I assume Quebec as it is cheap there, here in Ontario it's fucking outragous. I have wanted to build a light but keep waiting for prices to fall. For me HID does provide needed heat in the colder months which would have to be supplemented with LED I'm assuming which would be kind of a waste I think.

No not from Quebec, I live in Alberta and have my power locked in at 5.5 cents/kwh.

 

[Budley Doright]

No not from Quebec, I live in Alberta and have my power locked in at 5.5 cents/kwh.

Wow that's amazing!!!!

 

[InsoMnia90]

I AM UNDER 2 450 WATT LEDS 900 IN TOTAL FIRST ATTEMPT

 

[Creature1969]

I'll just add that I switched from a 400w HID to 6 COBs totaling 330w and I'm getting crazy growth rate now. Much more branching early on with no training. (though it's also like jumping from 400w to around 800w HID so that might give the same result, dunno.)

8.5 oz from 4 auto's under 400w HPS last grow, expecting over a lb from 3 autos this grow. Already harvested a topped auto cheese @ 6.4oz, still 2 auto amnesia growing that should each beat that number with no training.

I think COBs and likely QB's ARE that good in my experience.

 

[mauricem00]

I'm seeing more and more people use these LEDs and I'm starting to wonder if they are as good as people make them up to be... what size LED Would I need to compensate for a 600hps? anyone actually used em and how does your yield compare between the 2 and also quality of fruits produced...

LED's will grow plants but are not as great as people here claim. if you are going to try LED's avoid the cheap multi band units sold on EBAY or AMAZON and use Cobs or the new Samsung 561 strip lights. you will need to add cal mag supplements and potency will not be as high as with CMH or other bulbs that provide UV and violet light. I have multi band,Cobs. and bridgelux EB strips lights (Samsung 561 diodes) but in test grows they did not perform as well as my CMH and T5 lights.LED's are a trend like induction lights and other trends we've seen over the years.if your HPS has a mechanical ballast you can upgrade to CMH with a simple bulb change

 

[jonsnow399]

They go out of stock within hours of putting them on their site.
Having folks do YouTube videos before they are in stock didn't help.
They seem more focused on redesigning them and upgrading them then keeping them in stock.

Thats funny, they have hundreds available on their site as of five minutes ago.

 

[torontoke]

Thats funny, they have hundreds available on their site as of five minutes ago.

What site you looking at?
I haven't checked recently I gave up on getting more two shipments ago.

 

[jonsnow399]

What site you looking at?
I haven't checked recently I gave up on getting more two shipments ago.

https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/diy

 

[torontoke]

https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/diy

I stand corrected they have 48 in stock more then I expected.
They must have finally got a big shipment.
I apologize and admit I was wrong.

 

[jonsnow399]

I stand corrected they have 48 in stock more then I expected.
They must have finally got a big shipment.
I apologize and admit I was wrong.

Which is more than most people on this board will do! lol

 

[Cwrighty9420]

ROTFLMAO!!!

You came to the wrong guy with that question, ya young whippersnapper!

With a 600? I have done a SOG that went 3.41 GPW.
With a 400? Done 2.8 GPW
You don't even want to know what I did with a 250! (Aw, what the hell - 4.48 GPW)
With a 1 K - no SOG my average is 1.72

In reality, GPW is meaningless!

Now just what do you say is not a "shitty" LED? OUTSIDE of COBB's, your overpriced and overrated LED's won't keep up with what I do and not get near the quality results either!

Let this frost your ass.
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Take your overpriced, overblown claims and your lack of real world results and sit on the porch like a nice young man....

GPW,, good grief.....

That shit looks dank. Im going with this guy lmao

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

LED's will grow plants but are not as great as people here claim. if you are going to try LED's avoid the cheap multi band units sold on EBAY or AMAZON and use Cobs or the new Samsung 561 strip lights. you will need to add cal mag supplements and potency will not be as high as with CMH or other bulbs that provide UV and violet light. I have multi band,Cobs. and bridgelux EB strips lights (Samsung 561 diodes) but in test grows they did not perform as well as my CMH and T5 lights.LED's are a trend like induction lights and other trends we've seen over the years.if your HPS has a mechanical ballast you can upgrade to CMH with a simple bulb change

I would argue that the people who have the best success with LED are using T5 for UV and using Far red flower initiators. Part of the beauty of LED is that it's far more customizable than any HID set up. I'm personally leaning toward upgrading to QBs and adding that when I have the cash.

 

[MMJ Dreaming 99]

I would argue that the people who have the best success with LED are using T5 for UV and using Far red flower initiators. Part of the beauty of LED is that it's far more customizable than any HID set up. I'm personally leaning toward upgrading to QBs and adding that when I have the cash.

Has anyone pulled 2 lb a light or a comparable to 1000 watt HPS. Recently did 2.8/2.9 with 1000 watt hps with hydrofarms hoods with 8' ducting and tired bulbs.

Would like to do that with a 4 board QB rig or something comparable.

 

[Xcoregamerskillz]

Has anyone pulled 2 lb a light or a comparable to 1000 watt HPS. Recently did 2.8/2.9 with 1000 watt hps with hydrofarms hoods with 8' ducting and tired bulbs.

Would like to do that with a 4 board QB rig or something comparable.

2 lb a light in what space with what medium, etc etc.... there are so many variables here that getting good apples to apples comparisons are difficult. So far, the only side by side I've seen was possibly in a GrowMau5 video, and the led side looked comparable. But there weren't any close ups, so, no quality observations.

That's the other half of the story. Yield is great, but do LEDs produce as good or better quality bud compared with HID. I honestly haven't seen anyone do a side by side with clones on this test.

 

[Odin*]

... the led side looked comparable. But there weren't any close ups, so, no quality observations.

... do LEDs produce as good or better quality bud compared with HID. I honestly haven't seen anyone do a side by side with clones on this test.

You can only get so much from a pic. Sure, they're worth "1,000 words", but that isn't enough to asses bud quality. No "nose" coming through that pic. It may look "frosty", but does it really have that sticky/greasy/heavy/oily feel? Definitely not getting a sample smoke from it either.

LED's aren't "killing it", they are a lighting alternative for those with limited power available. They cannot out perform HPS, but who knows what the future will bring.

(I've been to warehouses running only LED/COB, wasn't impressed)

 

[Odin*]

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[jwreck]

LED's will grow plants but are not as great as people here claim. if you are going to try LED's avoid the cheap multi band units sold on EBAY or AMAZON and use Cobs or the new Samsung 561 strip lights. you will need to add cal mag supplements and potency will not be as high as with CMH or other bulbs that provide UV and violet light. I have multi band,Cobs. and bridgelux EB strips lights (Samsung 561 diodes) but in test grows they did not perform as well as my CMH and T5 lights.LED's are a trend like induction lights and other trends we've seen over the years.if your HPS has a mechanical ballast you can upgrade to CMH with a simple bulb change

t5s produce better quality than led? i can tell youve never done an led grow, you might have seen one but you never used them

 

[Joomby]

I've had a few fun cars, recently sold my '12 C63 coupe (loaded, most important was the P31 AMG Dev Packg, and LSD). Picked her up via Euro Delivery. Didn't do much to it, just ROW airboxes (everyone, but the US, got less restrictive airboxes, and those didn't have an additional filter, which further restricts the US car), AFE Pro dry, black series hood, and Michelin PSS's. Fun, but the fam has outgrown it, so...

Having family's ruins all the fun haha it's the same reason I had to get rid of my 97 supra. It was a sad day

 

[Dr. Who]

I would argue that the people who have the best success with LED are using T5 for UV and using Far red flower initiators. Part of the beauty of LED is that it's far more customizable than any HID set up. I'm personally leaning toward upgrading to QBs and adding that when I have the cash.

FAR red flower initiators are a waste of time and money.....Tested those years ago...... Not worth it!

PERIOD!