The Truth About Flushing

CannaBruh

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And I will continue to stand behind my opinion, which has been formulated on decades of experience.

Compare that with what you have done; offer arbitrary study, misinterpret and represent YOUR OWN opinion as fact, based by a study that does not support or offer evidence the way you think it does.

We disagree, I'm not trying to convince you nor continue to point out where your positions fail at having much validity.

As we are approaching harvest I'll feed some to the chop and flush the rest per my norm and will share results. Can we expect you to do the same?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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And I will continue to stand behind my opinion, which has been formulated on decades of experience.

Compare that with what you have done; offer arbitrary study, misinterpret and represent YOUR OWN opinion as fact, based by a study that does not support or offer evidence the way you think it does.

We disagree, I'm not trying to convince you nor continue to point out where your positions fail at having much validity.

As we are approaching harvest I'll feed some to the chop and flush the rest per my norm and will share results. Can we expect you to do the same?

I have been trying to stay out of this but I have been testing this all last year.

I was running a plant a week spaced out perpetually so I started running some clones of real nice ones and ran them 3 times each and 2 different strains.

I know both phenos well so I can grow them very consistently.

I tried feeding to last 2 weeks or so then water only to fade.

I tried feeding to last week then flushed (leached) then water a couple times. For about a week.

And I tried tapering my feed down in steps as they ripened and ended with a low concentration or water only the last time.

Now I try to fertilize only as much as the plants will need to the next watering so no harsh overfeeding here but here are the results I found.

Cutting feed for two weeks resulted in yellowing droopy plants and at least a 30% reduced yield on average. Also terpenes and cannabanoids are noticeably less. Every time I was unhappy.

When only the last week the yield was better and had more to do with how the plants used up the nutes to effect yield and potency/flavor. My more efficient plants can take it but still show some fade and deficiencies. Just doesn't hurt the results as much.

And the winner. Taper down feed during ripening as he plants need less.

Much stronger smells from jar #3 every time. And definitely more potent. But not only that also more complexity and a stronger combination of head high and body buzz from my hybrids.

Also have evolved more in the jar. My BLT that is sour diesel heavy goes from typical rotten fruit smell to much more chocolate. The starved one did not.

Every patient noticed and commented it was really strong and tasty.

Those are my findings. I will waste no more time on a stupid guideline that doesn't consider any variables. If I get build up or plant stress. I may leach. I may just lower the ec of my solution. Or I may give water only to dilute.

And they just keep getting greener and healthier for their whole cycle with many less finishing problems.

And every Greenhouse guide I have read and food production manual too says to only water only the last week. That is to not waste money and they are not growing cannabis for connisours or patients. Just food that will sell for a few dollars a pound.

I grow for max quality I can get. That requires growing a plant as close to its potential as your environment permits.
 

CannaBruh

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You guys must be starting these flushes much sooner or further from harvest or what I would consider an ideal harvest to lose 30%.

imo the plants should be done or very near done swelling and that's most of your weight, if your gear isn't dank potent at this point, check your genetics with all respect some gear at 40 days and it's bananas fire but still is not ready until 56-70+
 

MichiganMedGrower

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You guys must be starting these flushes much sooner or further from harvest or what I would consider an ideal harvest to lose 30%.

imo the plants should be done or very near done swelling and that's most of your weight, if your gear isn't dank potent at this point, check your genetics with all respect some gear at 40 days and it's bananas fire but still is not ready until 56-70+

You don't actually have experience to back up all this crap you are spewing do you?

I grow diesel / Thai / g-13 hybrids and other elite plants. They always go 10-12 weeks depending on pheno. One Lemon Thai leaning pheno has gone almost 14.

I have been running a legal medical perpetual Grow for almost 4 years now. 1 plant planted/cloned every week and about the same weekly harvest.

My yield and quality has pretty much doubled without changing anything since the second year so I started using the system to test everything I am curious about.

What do you do?
 

CannaBruh

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You don't actually have experience to back up all this crap you are spewing do you?

I grow diesel / Thai / g-13 hybrids and other elite plants. They always go 10-12 weeks depending on pheno. One Lemon Thai leaning pheno has gone almost 14.

I have been running a legal medical perpetual Grow for almost 4 years now. 1 plant planted/cloned every week and about the same weekly harvest.

My yield and quality has pretty much doubled without changing anything since the second year so I started using the system to test everything I am curious about.

What do you do?
4 years ago that was what 2013, cute.. no need to get all puffy you guys do whatever the fuck you wanna do, but when you get all mad and insist that herb must be inferior because it doesn't succumb to your close minded bullshit then I'm gonna check ya
 

MichiganMedGrower

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4 years ago that was what 2013, cute.. no need to get all puffy you guys do whatever the fuck you wanna do, but when you get all mad and insist that herb must be inferior because it doesn't succumb to your close minded bullshit then I'm gonna check ya

You didn't answer the question. And you are the one stuck on an argument you have no idea about.

I just told you how I compared methods. What do you do?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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i must grow a bunch of shitty weed

Why won't you answer the question? This is a site for growers to share in.

Here is my modest medical garden. I was involved in the "black market" side of our plant since the eighties. But I never grew personally.

I found it very ironic that the same medicine I relied on for health problems I was born with and could have gone to jail all my life for was now available in my girlfriends home state with medical liscense.

And I actually qualified for the liscense so......

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And here is a Blue Lemon Thai bud. This is my favorite strain. I have liked every pheno so far. It is a CH9/ Motarebel hybrid.

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We all know @whitebb2727 can grow. He knows more about this shit than most.

Let's see yours Canna Bruh.
 

whitebb2727

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Why won't you answer the question? This is a site for growers to share in.

Here is my modest medical garden. I was involved in the "black market" side of our plant since the eighties. But I never grew personally.

I found it very ironic that the same medicine I relied on for health problems I was born with and could have gone to jail all my life for was now available in my girlfriends home state with medical liscense.

And I actually qualified for the liscense so......

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And here is a Blue Lemon Thai bud. This is my favorite strain. I have liked every pheno so far. It is a CH9/ Motarebel hybrid.

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We all know @whitebb2727 can grow. He knows more about this shit than most.

Let's see yours Canna Bruh.
Thank you.

Good looking plants.

I don't generally talk out my ass.

I read the study about optimal feeds give the best results. Meaning feed about what the plant needs.

I, for the life of me, can't find the study that I want. I will though. As you know I am a hard headed man.

I just don't get where cannabrah thinks I haven't tried or tested this stuff.

Oh well.

If only cannabrah knew what those words meant from you.

You and I haven't exactly seen eye to eye. Lol.

That's the past though. Ill leave it there.


Glad to see someone tell their results from testing it.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Thank you.

Good looking plants.

I don't generally talk out my ass.

I read the study about optimal feeds give the best results. Meaning feed about what the plant needs.

I, for the life of me, can't find the study that I want. I will though. As you know I am a hard headed man.

I just don't get where cannabrah thinks I haven't tried or tested this stuff.

Oh well.

If only cannabrah knew what those words meant from you.

You and I haven't exactly seen eye to eye. Lol.

That's the past though. Ill leave it there.


Glad to see someone tell their results from testing it.

Thanks man. I never meant to argue with you. And I am sorry I ever did.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I had a whole thing typed out, but knee-jerk tells me to just take my ball and run, peace

Don't just run off. You were very argumentive to some real serious growers.

But we would still rather share and learn from each other.

White and me sure have got into it. And I really like him. Even when I was just a lurker and didn't post yet. Did you look at his buds?

I personally feel privelaged to hear and see about his methods and garden.

And the rest of the people trying to tell you to try to learn more are great too.
 

Budley Doright

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Word.

That's how I am. I started with my parents when I could walk and my kids help me now.

We use nothing but the manure from our livestock and compost to grow our food.

The farms I worked growing up were thousands of acres. The proper use of salts was not only ethical but cost a lot on that scale. You didn't want waste. Lost money.

These type tractors.
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