Anyone have anything that can beat this $749 - (12) Zero29 rig versus HPS?

[MMJ Dreaming 99]

http://www.rapidled.com/vero29-4-x-4-grow-kit/

This is looking pretty strong. Should be close to DE HPS. About 760 PPFD across the full 4x4. I liked QBs but prices went up and I think this beats 4 QB boards. What about temps compared QB?

 

[verticalgrow]

http://www.rapidled.com/vero29-4-x-4-grow-kit/

This is looking pretty strong. Should be close to DE HPS. About 760 PPFD across the full 4x4. I liked QBs but prices went up and I think this beats 4 QB boards. What about temps compared QB?

$799 600W plc
http://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/product/plc-6/

 

[DrBlaze]

cobkits.com

12x cxm22= 205
12x 133mm hs= 227
2x HLG-320H-48A =200
holders = 30
wagos, wire, misc=20

$682 for higher ppfd and more efficient. In the 50 watt range, nothing beats cxms

 

[ganjamystic]

$799 600W plc
http://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/product/plc-6/

I wanted to buy a couple of these before I bought my quantum boards like 2 months ago but they were out of stock.. still are..

 

[ganjamystic]

http://www.rapidled.com/vero29-4-x-4-grow-kit/

This is looking pretty strong. Should be close to DE HPS. About 760 PPFD across the full 4x4. I liked QBs but prices went up and I think this beats 4 QB boards. What about temps compared QB?

that's with no frame though. if you want the 4x4 'substrate' frame thing it's +$190..

 

[What..?]

I like mine so far.

 

[Photon Flinger]

I got 12 Vero 29c SE for around 400 bucks. Rest of the stuff you can improvise with spares laying around.

Plants don't care if it looks pretty.

 

[klx]

Veros ftw!

 

[MMJ Dreaming 99]

Checking this out too. It will do a 5x5.
Supposedly about 1.5 x of a 1000 watt HPS. $874.99 using 832 watts.
https://www.ledfullspectrum.com/product.html?l=hbcrm-4x

1,448.3 - 1913 μmol/s
Lumens per watt 140
Effeciency
1.76 - 2.3 PPF/W

 

[klx]

Checking this out too. It will do a 5x5.
Supposedly about 1.5 x of a 1000 watt HPS. $874.99 using 832 watts.
https://www.ledfullspectrum.com/product.html?l=hbcrm-4x

1,448.3 - 1913 μmol/s
Lumens per watt 140
Effeciency
1.76 - 2.3 PPF/W

Doesnt list the chips, drivers or any components used. I would be sceptical of their claims.

 

[MMJ Dreaming 99]

cobkits.com

12x cxm22= 205
12x 133mm hs= 227
2x HLG-320H-48A =200
holders = 30
wagos, wire, misc=20

$682 for higher ppfd and more efficient. In the 50 watt range, nothing beats cxms

the power draw is about 640 watts? Thanks.

 

[CobKits]

those drivers will pull 400+ each from the wall

 

[DrBlaze]

the power draw is about 640 watts? Thanks.

Or you could use the B verson of the driver which actually runs at the 320 range but has remote dimming.

the A versions put out more power, but can only be dimmed with a screwdriver.

 

[CobKits]

Bs pull up to about 375 from the wall depending on how well you fill them

 

[welight]

can offer 12 up Vero29 D bin for USD679, with all the trimmings
Cheers
Mark

 

[MMJ Dreaming 99]

I am still wondering is 12 Vero 29s or CXMs can match these?

http://www.perfectsunled.com/copy-of-perfect-sun-500-1
Perfect Sun is almost double the price.

https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/products/horticulture-lighting-group-hlg-550-led-grow-light

https://www.ledfullspectrum.com/product.html?l=hbcrm-4x

 

[nc208]

I am still wondering is 12 Vero 29s or CXMs can match these?

http://www.perfectsunled.com/copy-of-perfect-sun-500-1
Perfect Sun is almost double the price.

https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/products/horticulture-lighting-group-hlg-550-led-grow-light

https://www.ledfullspectrum.com/product.html?l=hbcrm-4x

That first option looks like your typical blurple LED, may as well use Mars hydro if you want to go that option and save some money.
The HLG 550 you can get for 600USD if you get it as a kit vs. it pre-assembled so you can save some cash there.
That 3rd light, i cant seem to find many reviews so I personally am skeptical about dropping tons of money on unproven tech.

Your initial post asked about any lights that can beat that rapid kit?
Short answer is yes there are tons.
But are you looking for the cheapest option?
Do you want pre-assembled? or DIY?
IS there a budget?
The most complete coverage and even ppfd spread?
Also many different ways to drive LED's, can run fewer harder, or more softer.

It would be easier to provide you an answer with knowing specifics like what size area will this be covering, how many plants, height restrictions etc..

And what is the price increase for the QB boards? Their kits are still a great deal IMO.

I would look at 2 of these 320w QB kits versus any of the options you listed if you want a beast of a light, This would be 6 QB boards for cheaper than the hlg 550 and use about an extra 100 watts.
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/diy/products/320w-xl-qb-led-kit.

 

[Abiqua]

I am still wondering is 12 Vero 29s or CXMs can match these?

http://www.perfectsunled.com/copy-of-perfect-sun-500-1
Perfect Sun is almost double the price.

https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/products/horticulture-lighting-group-hlg-550-led-grow-light

https://www.ledfullspectrum.com/product.html?l=hbcrm-4x

The Perfect sun is a slug based diode, which is about 15 year old tech. Get a spec sheet of the diodes if you can, but I doubt it, because they reveal terrible efficiency unless your cooling is on steroids.....Same like NC just said as Blackdog, Lush, Spider, Mars, ebay special, amazon special.....big whoop. They may be claiming honesty, but disingenuous as all hell...

the HLG using the Samsung diode speaks for itself and the last one, is ?? I didn't see a diode listing.....DANGER WILL ROBINSON ​

 

[Abiqua]

check out the photon fantom boards too @MMJ Dreaming 99 also using the samsung diode except the newest which has some 660 nm RED mixed in....
with drivers and simple frame [they don't need heatsinking per se...] this could be a $600 build easy.
All plug and play, like most things these days, y'all just starting out have it nice!

 

[MMJ Dreaming 99]

I am still wondering is 12 Vero 29s or CXMs can match these?

http://www.perfectsunled.com/copy-of-perfect-sun-500-1
Perfect Sun is almost double the price.

https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/products/horticulture-lighting-group-hlg-550-led-grow-light

https://www.ledfullspectrum.com/product.html?l=hbcrm-4x

check out the photon fantom boards too @MMJ Dreaming 99 also using the samsung diode except the newest which has some 660 nm RED mixed in....
with drivers and simple frame [they don't need heatsinking per se...] this could be a $600 build easy.
All plug and play, like most things these days, y'all just starting out have it nice!

Any link?