Will 10 hrs of light make my plant stunted?

ttystikk

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Pyrethrin is organic, so is cyanide!

What matters is how quickly the compounds break down. Neem oil won't do shit for spider mites. I'm having terrific luck using slow release dichlorvos, but can't say I know it works on all mites. I've used Mighty Wash with great success, I believe it is now disclosed that the active ingredient is pyrethrin based. The pyrethrin bombs break down very quickly, as does dichlorvos.
Yep, Mighty Wash is just prediluted pyrethrins.

5% alcohol every three days for 2 weeks. It won't kill the eggs, so you have to interrupt the life cycle.
 

Jimdamick

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I've has Spider mites before and am with you on this

back then in my ignorance I used Malathion ..cancer as fuck cough cough

but never heard of cold pressed neem oil either

but maybe to weak for these critters

good luck
Lung cancer coming up @vostok.
You actually smoked that shit, or did you sell it and kill your friends?
 

Gumdrawp

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Back to the original question; there are guys on the forum who regularly run well under 12 hours of daylight in their bloom cycle. One runs just 8 hours. He says he gets great results and his plants finish a bit faster. Has lots of pics to prove it.

Food for thought.
Really 8 hours and it was faster? That has to be extremely strain specific. The most I've ever heard of anyone sustaining for the majority of flower was 10/14.

I've read that you can use some far red lighting to force your plants to "sleep" faster to run more light (13-11 14-10) and they claimed to shave between 5 and 10 days from flower doing that. But I'd have to read a lot more into this to say with any certainty if it was effective.

Personally I've run 11/13 and I was very pleased with the results. Seems like heavy resin producers prefer the longer dark periods in my experience.
 

Jimdamick

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3 weeks tomorrow
If you only have a couple of plants, I would rip the webs off by hand, lift the leaves and remove the eggs (squish the mother fuckers). At this stage in your grow you probably have good sized buds, and I would be hesitant to spray the buds. I have done this in late bloom, and the bud was ok, but the colas still had some webs (they will not go away unless you remove by hand), but when you trim, you can get most of the web off. If you sell, that could be an issue selling with the web.
Anyway,that's what I did for a plant in bloom.
Good luck
Oh, 10 hours of light is fine for as long as you want to use it, it just sucks
If you go back to 8 hours for say a couple of weeks, you will re veg.
 

ttystikk

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Really 8 hours and it was faster? That has to be extremely strain specific. The most I've ever heard of anyone sustaining for the majority of flower was 10/14.

I've read that you can use some far red lighting to force your plants to "sleep" faster to run more light (13-11 14-10) and they claimed to shave between 5 and 10 days from flower doing that. But I'd have to read a lot more into this to say with any certainty if it was effective.

Personally I've run 11/13 and I was very pleased with the results. Seems like heavy resin producers prefer the longer dark periods in my experience.
Yeah, it was strain specific; every photo strain he's ever run, lol
 

ttystikk

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If you only have a couple of plants, I would rip the webs off by hand, lift the leaves and remove the eggs (squish the mother fuckers). At this stage in your grow you probably have good sized buds, and I would be hesitant to spray the buds. I have done this in late bloom, and the bud was ok, but the colas still had some webs (they will not go away unless you remove by hand), but when you trim, you can get most of the web off. If you sell, that could be an issue selling with the web.
Anyway,that's what I did for a plant in bloom.
Good luck
Oh, 10 hours of light is fine for as long as you want to use it, it just sucks
If you go back to 8 hours for say a couple of weeks, you will re veg.
8 hours of darkness or 8 hours of light? The OP said he was shortening his day cycle, at least temporarily. That won't hurt anything.
 

vostok

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Lung cancer coming up @vostok.
You actually smoked that shit, or did you sell it and kill your friends?
My first experience with the cursed Spider Mites,

I applied Malathion on a friends advice,

the mites had attack my 8 inch tree at the base chomping away

not good practice these days to use this chem:

Malathion is an organophosphateinsecticide listed by the American Cancer Society
as a probable carcinogen especially linked to prostate cancer.[5]
In the former USSR, it was known as carbophos,
in New Zealandand Australia as maldison and in South Africa as mercaptothion

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathion)
 

vostok

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Will 10 hrs of light Make my plant stunted?

Not at all but she maybe missing some serious trics and buds

if you can;t go 12x12 extend you veg time to 2 and a half months minimum

good luck
 

Buba Blend

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Yeah, it was strain specific; every photo strain he's ever run, lol
I enjoyed going through parts of the 8 hour grow journal, some excellent harvest pictures.
What do you mean by strain specific. Is he running strains that work well with the 8 hour light? Were maybe some strains would respond poorly to the 8 hours of light?
 

Ghost of Davy Jones

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@whitebb2727.. I still think I'm right about that other subject even tho i dont know anything about this one lol.
I'm not trying to argue with you man. I know you absolutely know your shit and Im just learning. I was just telling you what my local meteorologist said. Maybe I misunderstood him. I do tend to wake and bake while watching the news. lol. Hope your not mad man. I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything.
 

whitebb2727

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@whitebb2727.. I still think I'm right about that other subject even tho i dont know anything about this one lol.
I'm not trying to argue with you man. I know you absolutely know your shit and Im just learning. I was just telling you what my local meteorologist said. Maybe I misunderstood him. I do tend to wake and bake while watching the news. lol. Hope your not mad man. I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything.
Why would the weather man mention when cannabis starts flowering?
Captian jacks spinosad is what I use. Good stuff. Spray the plants twice according to directions and mix it with your water twice for systemic action.

Spinosad is toxic to bees for 30 minutes after spraying. Use it early before the sun comes up so it doesn't kill bees and then the su. Can dry it.
 

ladywolf

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To help with the OP, on my last grow, i had multiple times where something silly made me have to adjust the light cycle and I lost a few hours of light. The grow was fine! I am no expert, but I feel like these plants can do quite a bit of bouncing back from grower errors, etc.
 

Ghost of Davy Jones

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Why would the weather man mention when cannabis starts flowering?
Captian jacks spinosad is what I use. Good stuff. Spray the plants twice according to directions and mix it with your water twice for systemic action.

Spinosad is toxic to bees for 30 minutes after spraying. Use it early before the sun comes up so it doesn't kill bees and then the su. Can dry it.
Weather man was talking about sun changing color, the days getting shorter and he said Aug 6th was the day that photoperidic plants make their switch.. like i said he did a little 5 minute segment on it. It was I who assumed cannabis fell into that category. I could be wrong. I'm new to all this so I'm still trying to get facts and learn and weed out the good info from the bad ya know. Thanks for the recommendation on the spinosad. it looks like really good stuff.
 

Ghost of Davy Jones

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To help with the OP, on my last grow, i had multiple times where something silly made me have to adjust the light cycle and I lost a few hours of light. The grow was fine! I am no expert, but I feel like these plants can do quite a bit of bouncing back from grower errors, etc.
I feel like you might be right.
 

whitebb2727

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Weather man was talking about sun changing color, the days getting shorter and he said Aug 6th was the day that photoperidic plants make their switch.. like i said he did a little 5 minute segment on it. It was I who assumed cannabis fell into that category. I could be wrong. I'm new to all this so I'm still trying to get facts and learn and weed out the good info from the bad ya know. Thanks for the recommendation on the spinosad. it looks like really good stuff.
Give or take. Yes cannabis is photoperiod but it varies greatly.

You can mimic outdoors by dropping your timer 30 minutes a week or every 5 days.

Most will flower around 14.5 to 14 hours light. The dark is what makes them flower I'm just referencing the light times.

The days shorten by only a few seconds each day at first then by a minute or two then even more.

Some strains are early strains. Some are not. Some are equatorial and receive near 12/12 year round.

There can be as much as 3-4 weeks of difference in the start of flowering on different strains.

I do grow indoors but been growing outdoors for years.

Even with other photoperiod plants I don't get how anyone can say Aug 6.

Different plants and strains take different amounts of time to transition to flower.
 

Ghost of Davy Jones

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Give or take. Yes cannabis is photoperiod but it varies greatly.

You can mimic outdoors by dropping your timer 30 minutes a week or every 5 days.

Most will flower around 14.5 to 14 hours light. The dark is what makes them flower I'm just referencing the light times.

The days shorten by only a few seconds each day at first then by a minute or two then even more.

Some strains are early strains. Some are not. Some are equatorial and receive near 12/12 year round.

There can be as much as 3-4 weeks of difference in the start of flowering on different strains.

I do grow indoors but been growing outdoors for years.

Even with other photoperiod plants I don't get how anyone can say Aug 6.

Different plants and strains take different amounts of time to transition to flower.
Yeah, something told me you knew your shit. What u said makes complete sense. I stand corrected.
 
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