Rural America.

ttystikk

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Why must every great topic slide into personal insults and vileness between each other? Can't we present these differing stances without personal fights over each other's sexuality and such?
It's their way of shouting down rhetoric they don't like but can't rationally debate.
 

abandonconflict

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It's their way of shouting down rhetoric they don't like but can't rationally debate.
No, that is what you do.

In this thread, a racist gringo completely derailed discussion by his mere presence. He then used the attention he received to steer it toward flat-earth nonsense. Of course, since you seem to tolerate bigots, you might not have picked up on that...
 

Unclebaldrick

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Well this is interesting and merits qualification.

Please list the countries/cities you have visited in Europe (and when) which used to be nice (examples of the 'nice things' you witnessed would be helpful), and those cities you have since revisited and subsequently deemed to have been 'ruined thanks to progressive, elite, Deep State open borders and the fascist EU' (citing examples of their ruin).

Many thanks.
Isn't it odd that toad-boy @MMJ Dreaming 99 is logged in and avoiding your question like a little turd?
 

ttystikk

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No, that is what you do.

In this thread, a racist gringo completely derailed discussion by his mere presence. He then used the attention he received to steer it toward flat-earth nonsense. Of course, since you seem to tolerate bigots, you might not have picked up on that...
Bigots. Racism. You fit in here well.
 

bundee1

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I hear ya. My thread title is woefully inadequate. I have regrets. But most of America's rural areas are not like those in Wisconsin or Michigan. My area is much more like West Virginia - the sort of place where people mostly only leave. But I think there are many more areas like the one I currently live in that the ones like you live in. Whole states are like this.

The farm community that used to exist here has been devastated. All those family farms that have been sold off due to competitive pressures have left a lot of families here with no anchor. Consequently the overwhelming majority of jobs are your chains (food service and retail) or factories (which don't pay anything like they used to). Factories here typically top out below $40k per year after five years. $30k is just not enough to raise a family even here. So the kids are being raised largely by the grandparents.

I don't see myself moving to one of the large urban cores anytime soon - if ever again. If we had no child I would probably be in Detroit carving out a nice garden.

Cities have their problems, I know it. I did not intend to tear "the country" apart But that doesn't mean I can't wonder aloud what the fuck is up with rural Americans and what the fuck happened.
Sadly a defender of the rural way of life isn't smart enough to give you a cogent answer.
 

bundee1

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The people out here although not terribly far from the city don't like going there. They don't like the people there. And in Muskegon it is much more as you describe the negative aspects of people. And places.

I have lived in good and bad towns. But Muskegon with its beautiful shoreline and surrounding areas is the shittiest place I have been. It's ugly and it's people are shitty too. In general. I hated living there.

Many factories including the old paper mill are gone. And the houses and neighborhoods are very much destroyed.

You can still buy a house to fix up for 20k. The one I looked at was shot up in a gang incident.

The gang presence is great and at war in Muskegon. And the cops are bad too.

Much much nicer in the woods here.

There must be nicer places near you too.

Oh. I wish we could share the amazing fruit pies we got from the Amish grocery store yesterday for $7.50. And the meat pot pie was really fresh and good and full of steak.

We also rode mountain bikes on a local cross country track made by the high school coach and the kids. It's hilly in our area. The track is very professional. And as long as we don't tear it up we are welcome to ride it. It's fun.

The track teams around Michigan compete here regularly. And for many years they had the top wrestling team in the country. They are very proud of excellence. Not as you describe.

But in the cities it is well. Shitty. And dangerously crime ridden.
Word. All that shitty art, food, technology, culture, and education.
But of course
I would much rather watch a c list comedian perform at a barely surviving theater on an abandoned main street any Saturday night.

Its like people here barely try. Try to get any kind of ethnic food prepared properly and all you will get is a poor watered down facsimile. And why cant people drive down here? Its all they fucking do because their fat legs are vestigial organs. Holy shit someone will squeeze into the tightest parking space if its 1" closer to the store rather than park in an empty section and walk 10 extra feet.
 

bundee1

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Migration of intellectuals leaves rural communities with a depleted gene pool, these people reproduce creating ever more retarded and reactionary progeny, the sort who are stupid enough to believe a morbidly obese, misogynistic, racist nyc property developer has their best interests at heart.
Trump America, look at yourself, the world is shaking its head in disbelief
You're not lying. Come and take a look yourself. I've seen 4 ft people and 7 ft people here who are related. Genetic outliers from inbreeding.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Word. All that shitty art, food, technology, culture, and education.
But of course
I would much rather watch a c list comedian perform at a barely surviving theater on an abandoned main street any Saturday night.

Its like people here barely try. Try to get any kind of ethnic food prepared properly and all you will get is a poor watered down facsimile. And why cant people drive down here? Its all they fucking do because their fat legs are vestigial organs. Holy shit someone will squeeze into the tightest parking space if its 1" closer to the store rather than park in an empty section and walk 10 extra feet.

I posted that I grew up in the cultural, arts and educational center of the country and have posted multiple times the good and bad of the people and the environment I live with now.

Of the 10 people I interacted with today all of them seemed happier and more open minded than you.

And only one was heavy. And she is a mother of 2.

Thanks for responding.
 
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