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[Fogdog]

You have 4 examples that haven't failed.... Yet. I can give you plenty of examples of those same principles applied that went down in flames. Many more have failed than succeeded by a very large margin.

Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Canada are all strong states with prosperous happy people. They also have very good educational and health care delivery systems, along with national rail systems that leave ours in the dust.

I asked: When in history has any nation prospered, defended itself and became great under libertarian ideologies. I can point to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Canada, all of which have large government run service organizations that are better than what is done here under private concerns.

I don't think the libertarian ideal is anything more than a made up fake construct. Don't quote ideology, show me where in history this system has ever been shown to work.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Canada are all strong states with prosperous happy people. They also have very good educational and health care delivery systems, along with national rail systems that leave ours in the dust.

I asked: When in history has any nation prospered, defended itself and became great under libertarian ideologies. I can point to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Canada, all of which have large government run service organizations that are better than what is done here under private concerns.

I don't think the libertarian ideal is anything more than a made up fake construct. Don't quote ideology, show me where in history this system has ever been shown to work.

You are right and they do better than here but that wasn't always the case. We don't live under a just Capitalist state any more. I think lobbying(legalized bribery) should be illegal as well as term limits on every position in this government. If you can't see our government is crooked as hell you haven't looked very hard.

Congress passing a health Care bill that the exclude themselves from..... Damn

So until we clean up that shitty situation I strongly feel creating more government programs and feeding more of our livelihood to those crooks is a terrible mistake.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Canada are all strong states with prosperous happy people. They also have very good educational and health care delivery systems, along with national rail systems that leave ours in the dust.

I asked: When in history has any nation prospered, defended itself and became great under libertarian ideologies. I can point to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Canada, all of which have large government run service organizations that are better than what is done here under private concerns.

I don't think the libertarian ideal is anything more than a made up fake construct. Don't quote ideology, show me where in history this system has ever been shown to work.

Also since we are so close reach out and see how many Canadians are really satisfied with their government. Not what the media or any thing else tells you. Get it straight from the horses mouth..... I have. I know lots of Canadians.

 

[Fogdog]

Also since we are so close reach out and see how many Canadians are really satisfied with their government. Not what the media or any thing else tells you. Get it straight from the horses mouth..... I have. I know lots of Canadians.

80% of Canadians want to keep their medical system. Costs are half of ours and outcomes are much better. I'm sure everybody has a complaint. Same for the US, only ours are much much worse.

The only people who want to change it are the doctors.

 

[Fogdog]

You are right and they do better than here but that wasn't always the case. We don't live under a just Capitalist state any more. I think lobbying(legalized bribery) should be illegal as well as term limits on every position in this government. If you can't see our government is crooked as hell you haven't looked very hard.

Congress passing a health Care bill that the exclude themselves from..... Damn

So until we clean up that shitty situation I strongly feel creating more government programs and feeding more of our livelihood to those crooks is a terrible mistake.

How about we first recognize that Republicans are the reason we don't already have a health care system that works for everybody.

While we are on the subject, how about we recognize that the Republican party is the party for racists.

Also NFL players are protesting for rights white people already have and not asking you to give up any rights. (what was that all about anyway?)

 

[twostrokenut]

a law did fix it.

when civil rights laws were passed in 1964, they stopped publishing this book one year later:

before civil rights, black people could not even travel through the south because they were denied service by racist shitheads like you who wanted racial segregation and denial of service to be legal.

racist asshole.

that was nice of the Republicans to get that passed.

 

[twostrokenut]

those were LOCAL laws you white supremacist, hood wearing rat.

hence why i said the FEDERAL government ended those racist practices that you want to see legalized again.

furthermore, the scope of those laws did not even come close to causing the massive amounts of racial segregation and denial of service to black people that you want to see made legal again.

and you are such a pussy that you can't even admit that those racist practices were harmful to black people.

so what if they were local you should read "sweet land of liberty" it was never some easy bake oven shit for blacks in the north. if you want to paint with a broad brush it would be better to say the racist laws and attitudes came from democrats and that covers the geographical demographics as a whole country as well.

 

[twostrokenut]

Hey, I'm not the one who says there should be no police. You are. Somalia. That's what happens when your ideology is taken at it's words. I'm just being practical. Large societies can't exist without people cooperating with each other and following some sort of system of rules of behavior or they collapse. Like Somalia. Conservative libertarian ideology is a fake philosophy. Under your ideology, society breaks down into fragmented clans fighting for territory. Otherwise known as failed nation states.

I'll ask again. When in history has any nation prospered, defended itself and became great under libertarian ideologies. I can point to Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Canada, all of which have large government run service organizations that are better than what is done here under private concerns.

which one was founded with the most classical liberal tenants again? spit it out junior.

 

[Stephenj37826]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/before-charlottesville-democrats-voted-for-racist-policies-for-more-than-100-years/article/2631947

Check the facts and get back with us.

Also the fact that the Clintons pushed the 3 strikes laws as well as took plenty of campaign donations from the private prison system. ( Imprisioning people for profit).

Also look up Margaret Sanger..... Peach of a person.

BTW I don't like establishment Republicans (Cronny Capatalists) or establishment Democrats (mainly progressive now)

Also I don't believe in the 2 party system. The very idea that either side of 2 choices can fundamentally agree with even 50% of my opinion is obsurd. I don't agree with either side of this polarized system. I don't disagree that certain things like Health Care need major reform. I personally would like to see basic life saving health care for all. I also want to see the abolition of the IRS. I'm for a flat sales tax. Imagine the human resources that could be saved throughout society if you business and government didn't have to worry about your business (how much money you make ect). Red tape is a big burden in this country.

 

[Justin-case]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/before-charlottesville-democrats-voted-for-racist-policies-for-more-than-100-years/article/2631947

Check the facts and get back with us.

Also the fact that the Clintons pushed the 3 strikes laws as well as took plenty of campaign donations from the private prison system. ( Imprisioning people for profit).

Also look up Margaret Sanger..... Peach of a person.

BTW I don't like establishment Republicans (Cronny Capatalists) or establishment Democrats (mainly progressive now)

Also I don't believe in the 2 party system. The very idea that either side of 2 choices can fundamentally agree with even 50% of my opinion is obsurd. I don't agree with either side of this polarized system. I don't disagree that certain things like Health Care need major reform. I personally would like to see basic life saving health care for all. I also want to see the abolition of the IRS. I'm for a flat sales tax. Imagine the human resources that could be saved throughout society if you business and government didn't have to worry about your business (how much money you make ect). Red tape is a big burden in this country.

You are entitled to your own stupid opinions, that's for sure.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/before-charlottesville-democrats-voted-for-racist-policies-for-more-than-100-years/article/2631947

Check the facts and get back with us.

Also the fact that the Clintons pushed the 3 strikes laws as well as took plenty of campaign donations from the private prison system. ( Imprisioning people for profit).

Also look up Margaret Sanger..... Peach of a person.

BTW I don't like establishment Republicans (Cronny Capatalists) or establishment Democrats (mainly progressive now)

Also I don't believe in the 2 party system. The very idea that either side of 2 choices can fundamentally agree with even 50% of my opinion is obsurd. I don't agree with either side of this polarized system. I don't disagree that certain things like Health Care need major reform. I personally would like to see basic life saving health care for all. I also want to see the abolition of the IRS. I'm for a flat sales tax. Imagine the human resources that could be saved throughout society if you business and government didn't have to worry about your business (how much money you make ect). Red tape is a big burden in this country.

Ah the Margaret Sanger chestnut.

 

[Stephenj37826]

A flat sales tax doesn't take away the reward system.

I.E.

An average person works 40hrs per week 48 weeks per year from age 18-65. This person contributes 90, 240 hrs.

Now let's say a person is goal oriented and wants to work extra hard and retire early. If he worked 60 hrs per week 48 weeks per year from age 18-50 he has contributed 92160 hrs. In the current system the goal oriented person is penalized to the point that he doesn't get to retire early..... Is this fair?

 

[Stephenj37826]

Ah the Margaret Sanger chestnut.

So she wasn't a eugenisit ?

You are entitled to your own stupid opinions, that's for sure.

So that's not Hillary Clinton?


Stop cherry picking. Booth parties have racism in their past. Which I don't like either.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

So she wasn't a eugenisit ?



So that's not Hillary Clinton?


Stop cherry picking. Booth parties have racism in their past. Which I don't like either.

Much of what you know about her is contrived fantasy meant for people with weak minds who have little understanding of history. Enjoy your alt-right fantasy though if it makes you feel better.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

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Lol.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Much of what you know about her is contrived fantasy meant for people with weak minds who have little understanding of history. Enjoy your alt-right fantasy though if it makes you feel better.

Ok what percentage of aborted babies are minorities? I'm not saying I'm for it or against it. I'm saying to point fingers at any one party as the sole source of racism is bullshit.

 

[twostrokenut]

hence why you are back here i suppose, instead of over there where you belong.

I posted that months ago too.

 

[st0wandgrow]

The majority of Americans don't want that system. That is a statistical fact. So no matter if you state and feel that those countries are better off the majority of Americans want the government out of their lives. Do the research.

The majority of Americans don't know what they want. They howled and screamed about big govt when Obamacare was rolled out, and now they're howling and screaming not to take it away from them. lol

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Ok what percentage of aborted babies are minorities? I'm not saying I'm for it or against it. I'm saying to point fingers at any one party as the sole source of racism is bullshit.

Looking back on your posts I am getting the feeling that you are not that smart. It will take more than the answer to that question to make your point. But somebody more clever than you made a case against Margaret Sanger using incomplete facts and out of context quotes and then glued it together with liberal doses of mean spiritedness and inuendo.

And you bought it.

Didn't you promise to leave?

 

[Justin-case]

A flat sales tax doesn't take away the reward system.

I.E.

An average person works 40hrs per week 48 weeks per year from age 18-65. This person contributes 90, 240 hrs.

Now let's say a person is goal oriented and wants to work extra hard and retire early. If he worked 60 hrs per week 48 weeks per year from age 18-50 he has contributed 92160 hrs. In the current system the goal oriented person is penalized to the point that he doesn't get to retire early..... Is this fair?

Are you crying right now?