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Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
Nobody says there aren't. At least I don't say there are no fascists in Spain. On your lead, I checked about and find sources that say about a third of Spain still admires Franco. That's a big number. The 67% that don't admire Franco is a much larger number. I'm asserting that Spain isn't a fascist state, not that Spain is free of knuckleheads who think they are better off surrendering their rights to a fascist dictator. They are part of a scary-large minority as are like-minded racists in the US.
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How odd, that's about the same number of people that still admire Trump.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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twostrokenut said:
never heard of Giovanni huh? figures.

when we think of who is the philosopher behind capitalism....easy; Adam smith.

Marxism? well Marx of course.

nazism? easy right?

how about fascism? woah man it's this big complicated abstract nationalist thingy on the right.......nope.

that would be Giovanni Gentile and theres a good reason the left has conviently forgotten him....whoops.

nationalism has fuck all to do with party lines. Fidel was a nationalist. does that magically place Mr Castro on the right? nope. save your revisionist history for the lemmings.
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Speaking of revisionist history, tell us more about Hitler the liberal and the still-democratic south.
 
Heil Tweetler

Heil Tweetler

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twostrokenut said:
never heard of Giovanni huh? figures.

when we think of who is the philosopher behind capitalism....easy; Adam smith.

Marxism? well Marx of course.

nazism? easy right?

how about fascism? woah man it's this big complicated abstract nationalist thingy on the right.......nope.

that would be Giovanni Gentile and theres a good reason the left has conviently forgotten him....whoops.

nationalism has fuck all to do with party lines. Fidel was a nationalist. does that magically place Mr Castro on the right? nope. save your revisionist history for the lemmings.
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Naive blowhard you sound like an an idiot, zealot, ISIS recruit, all gung-ho every barbaric, asshole instinct activated
 
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twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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UncleBuck said:
Speaking of revisionist history, tell us more about Hitler the liberal and the still-democratic south.
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Heil Tweetler said:
Naive blowhard you sound like an an idiot, zealot Isis recruit all gung-ho every barbaric, asshole instinct activated
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oh you two have never heard of him either? a very accomplished lifelong socialist philosopher that recognized his echos of marx. gentile, the father of fascism, was the director of encyclopedia Italiana.

wonder if he would have nationalized the nfl?
 
Drowning-Man

Drowning-Man

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twostrokenut said:
never heard of Giovanni huh? figures.

when we think of who is the philosopher behind capitalism....easy; Adam smith.

Marxism? well Marx of course.

nazism? easy right?

how about fascism? woah man it's this big complicated abstract nationalist thingy on the right.......nope.

that would be Giovanni Gentile and theres a good reason the left has conviently forgotten him....whoops.

nationalism has fuck all to do with party lines. Fidel was a nationalist. does that magically place Mr Castro on the right? nope. save your revisionist history for the lemmings.
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
never heard of Giovanni huh? figures.

when we think of who is the philosopher behind capitalism....easy; Adam smith.

Marxism? well Marx of cSmith.

nassim? easy right?

how about fascism? woah man it's this big complicated abstract nationalist thingy on the right.......nope.

that would be Giovanni Gentile and theres a good reason the left has conviently forgotten him....whoops.

nationalism has fuck all to do with party lines. Fidel was a nationalist. does that magically place Mr Castro on the right? nope. save your revisionist history for the lemmings.
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Adam Smith came from a time when science and math were in their infancy. His methodology is very much the same as your libertarian one. Except he didn't reject math and science, it just wasn't up to the level we have today. Too funny that you justify your fake philosphy by referring back to the methodology used by a genius from two hundred years ago.
twostrokenut said:
oh you two have never heard of him either? a very accomplished lifelong socialist philosopher that recognized his echos of marx. gentile, the father of fascism, was the director of encyclopedia Italiana.

wonder if he would have nationalized the nfl?
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You love your fake philosophers, this much is true. You and Rob Roy should co-author a book about fake philosophies and how to justify them.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Fogdog said:
Adam Smith came from a time when science and math were in their infancy. His methodology is very much the same as your libertarian one. Except he didn't reject math and science, it just wasn't up to the level we have today. Too funny that you justify your fake philosphy by referring back to the methodology used by a genius from two hundred years ago.

You love your fake philosophers, this much is true. You and Rob Roy should co-author a book about fake philosophies and how to justify them.
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Giovanni Gentile wasn't a fake philosopher, he was the socialist philosopher responsible for the progression of Marxism into fascism.

you can look it up, but you wont.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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twostrokenut said:
Giovanni Gentile wasn't a fake philosopher, he was the socialist philosopher responsible for the progression of Marxism into fascism.

you can look it up, but you wont.
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Gentile's fascism doesn't resemble the left today one bit in any sensible mind.

Fascism is incompatible with the definition of today's democratic socialism as it is authoritarian top down control of production, not a collective control of common goods by all people via democracy. That's you being disingenuous again, dumbfuck. It matches with Marx' usage, but again, that is pretty much irrelevant in today's political discourse.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
Giovanni Gentile wasn't a fake philosopher, he was the socialist philosopher responsible for the progression of Marxism into fascism.

you can look it up, but you wont.
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Oh

On your say so, he wasn't fake. This explains your fascination with made up social constructs that are disconnected from reality. I call made up social constructs that are disconnected from reality like fascism and communism fake. I guess you don't. Just go to the Mises Institute's web site where you'll see that their made up conservative Libertarian social construct that is disconnected from reality is based upon unproven axioms. They also reject math and science because those tools are too hard to teach in 3-day seminars. Also math and science requires rigor. Modern scientific analysis can also be used to prove the lie in libertarian and so the Mises Institute rejects science and math. Libertarians are tools.
 
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twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Fogdog said:
Oh

On your say so, he wasn't fake. This explains your fascination with made up social constructs that are disconnected from reality. I call made up social constructs that are disconnected from reality like fascism and communism fake. I guess you don't. Just go to the Mises Institute's web site where you'll see that their made up conservative Libertarian social construct that is disconnected from reality is based upon unproven axioms. They also reject math and science because those tools are too hard to teach in 3-day seminars. Also math and science requires rigor. Modern scientific analysis can also be used to prove the lie in libertarian and so the Mises Institute rejects science and math. Libertarians are tools.
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the us constitution is a conservative/libertarian social construct.

dummy.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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twostrokenut said:
the us constitution is a conservative/libertarian social construct.

dummy.
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Lol conservative in 1776? I think the conservatives were monarchists. Are you pretending to be stupid or ?

The founding fathers used the ideas of classical liberalism to craft the Constitution. Right-libertarianism wasn't developed until the mid twentieth century.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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I'm not Spanish but my brother in law is born and bred Madrid, the third of Spaniards who favour Franco are mostly elderly and have various forms of memory loss, today's Spain is infinitely better than under Franco
 
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