Heisengrows Auto Madness

Heisengrow

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I originally signed up to this forum for the greenpoint thread cause i follow @Gu~ and his genetics as well as sackmastaflex on IG.I have a few greenpoints going now but it will be a while before i can sex them and get them in buckets so i figured what the hell ill grow some autos i bred a while back,
I took some beans from unnamed auto breeder and popped a shit load looking for some goodness.Ended up with 2 plants that really stood out,One had NL in it and the other was a ECSD ruderallis cross.Well i reversed the ECSD and pollinated the NL and ended up with about 1000 feminized auto seeds.I run in all custom built recirculating DWC and scrogg my plants.Yep you heard it right i top autos and scrog them out so what you will see here on this thread will be everything you have never seen with a typical auto grow.I will also be reversing the top female in this bunch and pollinating the other top female to get an even better cross than what i already have.SO for you noobs that are not familiar with the process i will show you exactly how to make female auto seeds and exactly how i grow to get big ass auto yields under 1000W HPS scroggs.I do not need more auto seeds but the purpose of this thread is for informational purposes only and i really think some people can really benefit from this thread.
I put 20 seeds in a cup of water and will germinate the first 12 that start to crack,than i will move them on to 17 gallon totes and select the best 6 based on appearance and root structure and node distance.the final 6 will go on to be grown out in my main bucket system.I will explain how to make collodial silver and all that good shit when we get to it to create the feminized seeds.You noobs who are interested in growing autos in HYDRO but never got a chance to learn or think its to hard i will walk you through this every step of the way right here,so without further due let this shit begin.....
After 24 hours 10 seeds have already cracked and got put into peat pellets.I like the pellets because they can hold the right amount of moisture and i find them more forgiving them rockwool.Rockwool once wet will retain its surrounding room temp and can be an issue.The pellets just work better for me for germinating and i usually always get 100 percent germination.Ive tried them all so when putting seeds into DWC buckets the pellets are great.It is very important not to break off the tap root when you transplant but ill get to that later.And also important to roll the peat when its still not to wet.You have to break up the layers a little and thats it before you put the seed in.Once i set the seeds in about 3/8 deep i cover with just a little of the peat.I put the lid on just so the pellets can retain the moisture so i dont have to babysit them.Once they begin to sprout i pull the lid off.Set them in a warm dark place.

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more to come later
 

Heisengrow

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Posting a video update of everything i have going on.48 hours and all the seeds are germinated.I touched bases on the photos i have going on also but the part on the autos are towards the end.Ill be putting them in the totes tommorrow and will go over all that and how much light and how much i feed them and stuff.

 

Heisengrow

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All 16 sprouted and are starting to go in the totes.I mixed the flora duo at 1/3 strength and added 1ML per gallon of rapid start and .5 ML per gallon of floralicious plus Ph to 5.8.PPM is around 550.As usual i put 3ML per gal of calimagic which is always mandatory.Young plants like these can prob do 2ML per gallon and work up to 4ML but i never had a reason to go beyond that throughout the grow.autos are kind of strange and dont require as many concentrated nutes as photos.
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Also made a little video

 

Heisengrow

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You know why nobody likes your thread. Cause you act like a douche. :bigjoint:
As long as you recognize that than were straight.my plants don't give a possums pecker what I am and that's all that matters.if my plants had you taking care of them they would be highly upset.im pretty sure of that.
Just stay tuned in brother and ima show you how it's done lol.but please for the love of god don't post any of your crispy,hermied,burnt up airy ass plants on my thread.someone might mistake them for mine.

Let me know when your tired of being a dirt bagger in them 1 gallon pots and I'll take you under my wing.
 

HighLowGrow

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Lol. You're ok brutha. I'll keep an eye on your grow. I will alway be a dirt bagger. Way too many variables over here. I'm really only in the 1 gallons because I'm breeding. Working on f6s.
 

Heisengrow

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Lol. You're ok brutha. I'll keep an eye on your grow. I will alway be a dirt bagger. Way too many variables over here. I'm really only in the 1 gallons because I'm breeding. Working on f6s.
F6 autos take a while.are you backxing to the original male/female or selecting as you go.only way i would ever take an auto to f6 is if inwa s trying to breed some super photo into it.i guess you have some time and work invested in that so you must have had some nice starter plants.
 

HighLowGrow

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No backxing. I'm selecting as I go. It's just a project I've been working on for a few years. All fems. I don't want to jack your thread. If you want to check it out it's my "BKR PROJECT ".
 

Heisengrow

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Lol. You're ok brutha. I'll keep an eye on your grow. I will alway be a dirt bagger. Way too many variables over here. I'm really only in the 1 gallons because I'm breeding. Working on f6s.
I'm surprised you don't run recirculating DWC for your f6 crosses.there is no environmental variable between plants all it is would be genetics so you can see the true potential of every plant.if you had a prize plant in a soil.pot with bad ph you could be tossing good genetics.
A 17 gallon tote would give you a 4 pot platform.you could run plants super fast and no scrog needed.you could also do 27 gallon totes with 4 pots on each and all your plants recirculating would have same nute, same everything.
I think pheno hunting would be more accurate this way personally cause your taking away any environmental mishap.
If a plant is shitty or phenomenal I can always rely on dwc to show me it's true potential good or bad.
 

Heisengrow

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48 hour update.
All 12 are in the totes and on there way to becoming what they were bred to be.
600W HID under 24/0 right now
General Hydro flora duo part A and B about 1/3rd of the 2nd week recommended dose.Its what i always run on seedlings and they love it.I had like 5 go janky in the pellets so i had to pull them out and i just put the plant straight into the hydroton.I had to do like this.It dont really matter the results are still the same.No difference.So 10 are in pellets and 2 are straight run
more details on the week update.
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Heisengrow

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One reason i love DWC.plants will flat out smoke any plant in dirt for the snail race.(first week)
72 hours and starting on second set of leaves since they knocked there helmets off.Gotta keep it simple.I already have my 6 plants picked out to run but it might change well see.
One thing to look for in a plants health is the cotyledon.If its green and healthy so is the plant.If its starting to yellow or go to shit on you than you have a problem you need to address.
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Heisengrow

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4 days after sprout and I have 8 inch tap roots.this is what were looking for when starting plants in DWC.especially with autos because they are on time clocks.You want to get as much out of the plants as possible with out pushing them over the edge.Ill touch base tommorrow on nute strength,etc.
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Heisengrow

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One reason i like this system for selecting plants.You take out all other environmental variables to get the best plants.Growing plants all in separate containers doesnt really allow you to tune out bad genetics.You could have a good plant in a shitty pot with shitty PH and less drainage and it will display less desirable traits.I like this system because every plant is in exactly the same solutuion,same PH,same everything.If a plant is acting up its because its just a shitty plant.We all have had them every time we crack seeds.you will always have that 1 or 2 out of a pack thats just difficult to deal with.This system eliminates that issue.

Here they are at 6 days since popped and doing well.
24 Gallons total
5ML per gallon flora nova part A
2.5 ML per gallon of part B
1 ML per gallon floralicious plus
3 ML per gallon calimagic
1.5 ML per gallon of rapid start
PH is 5.8 on the nose give or take falls from 6.2
Co2 1050PPM
600 Watt HID around 25,000 outside 34,000 outside LUX

This is my starting mixing formula for all gen hydro DWC recirculating unless a strain displays issues which i have found very rare.

All 12,As you can see there are plants that have issues.They are just not as vigorous as the others.This is completely normal.Nothing to do about it but cull them out.All the ones i have selected so far are in the left tote.It can change but unlikely



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The 6 i have picked out so far.Once these plants drop all the roots it will be on.

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