Democratic Senator, Dick Durban: 'We Should Appeal To The Center'

Fogdog

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Either cite the studies or shut the fuck up. You're blowing many BTUs of hot air, but you haven't proven a thing. Link or STFU. Centrism is Nazism.
Jeez, I leave to take a crap an you go all ballistic. Take care of that aging heart old man, I'm just here for my own entertainment. A very good study is linked in a post of mine above.

You might want to take a heart pill, print the paper, get some coffee and sit down because it's about 14 pages long. Also clean your reading glasses.

I'll answer your questions later because I'm pretty sure it's over your head.

honky, lol
 

Fogdog

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Here's another report that shows how the states with larger populatiions of white people with tendency to disbelieve white racial bias negatively affects minorities in our country voted for Trump.

CHART: The Relationship Between Seeing Discrimination And Voting For Trump

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/18/544265493/chart-the-relationship-between-seeing-discrimination-and-voting-for-trump


@KillerIndica , I hope this helps you get over your anger rage.
acutally I don't give a shit. I'm just being sarcastic. Honky, LOL
 
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st0wandgrow

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You haven't been privy to the endless discussions here. They have already read an earlier post of mine and know that I don't make empty claims, old man.

Here is a very good paper regarding a study about the role of racism and sexism played in Trump's win.

http://people.umass.edu/schaffne/schaffner_et_al_IDC_conference.pdf

It pretty much destroys the claim that Trump's win had anything to do with his economic policies and everything to do with racist and sexist bias among white people. Mostly white boomers like you.
If people were so motivated by racism at the ballot box, wouldn’t they have turned out in droves to defeat the first African American potus??
 

abandonconflict

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There's really nothing naive about it. Centrists, like you, are Nazis. Centrism is surrender and you are one prime example of that.
Bernard killed Rosa. You're a terrible communist. Honestly you come off as a millennial who recently declared to be a Moaist. If you're a militant antifascist, I would tell activists to shun you out of concern that you'd pick a fight just to make us look violent.

Also, WELCOME NEW MEMBER!
 

abandonconflict

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Right. Go on supporting the Democratic Party- the one that supports more drone strikes.

You're not a leftist, you're a fraud. An imperialist fraud. No wonder you have nothing to say.
Strawman.

I voted for Clinton.
The very fact of Chump in office is the best thing that's happened to the Left in America in my lifetime.
Say Shytstikk, do you by chance consider yourself a socialist?
 

Fogdog

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If people were so motivated by racism at the ballot box, wouldn’t they have turned out in droves to defeat the first African American potus??
You guys keep missing the important factor in this equation. It was Trump's sexist and racist history and remarks. No other Major party candidate for prez in recent history, not Obama, not Romney, not McCain, not GW Bush, not Kerry said the same as Trump nor did they draw the racist vote like Trump. You and others ask why as if I know all. As you keep pointing out, no matter how arrogant I am, I actually don't know all. The study I cited only showed that this is true.
 

Fogdog

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What does this have to do with 2016 though?
Exactly. 2016 had the first actual white supremacist candidate running openly as a white supremacist. They keep trying to use the transitive property (if x = y and y = a then x = a) to prove their point. The transitive property doesn't apply when conditions change. Partly they are incompetent at reasoning but also they are using pseudo logic. They start with the desired result then work back to find an argument that fits it.

Very shoddy thinkers these Sanders supporters are. Sad condition of society. (shakes head in sadness)
 

abandonconflict

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Exactly. 2016 had the first actual white supremacist candidate running openly as a white supremacist. They keep trying to use the transitive property (if x = y and y = a then x = a) to prove their point. The transitive property doesn't apply when conditions change. Partly they are incompetent at reasoning but also they are using pseudo logic. They start with the desired result then work back to find an argument that fits it.

Very shoddy thinkers these Sanders supporters are. Sad condition of society. (shakes head in sadness)
Meanwhile decrying idpol as the primary cause of his election.
 

st0wandgrow

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You guys keep missing the important factor in this equation. It was Trump's sexist and racist history and remarks. No other Major party candidate for prez in recent history, not Obama, not Romney, not McCain, not GW Bush, not Kerry said the same as Trump nor did they draw the racist vote like Trump. You and others ask why as if I know all. As you keep pointing out, no matter how arrogant I am, I actually don't know all. The study I cited only showed that this is true.
Can you post up that study please? I missed it if you’ve posted it before
 

ttystikk

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People like limp dick voted against her because they feared the change she represents.
BWAHAHAHAHA!

WHAT change?!

She's on record as having one set of talking points for public consumption and another for private/MoP conversation.

You're just a sucker. The Democratic Party gives not one single fuck about you. The rich family you bragged about marrying into might be a somewhat different story but that just serves to illustrate and prove my contentions.

You're a fraud and an apologist for apartheid. Which makes you a hypocrite.
 

ttystikk

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Its well documented by very good studies. The falsehoods are yours. People were not influenced by "parties are the same" or campaign finance corruption or economic issues. These were not nearly as important as how mainly white people responded positively to Trump's racist and sexist speech.
Quote my falsehood. Are you saying that Mr Obama wasn't elected in a landslide, by many of the very same voters who then turned to the Chump? Prove it.
 

ttystikk

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I like how you state this as fact, without a single link to a reputable source confirming your self-proclaimed "fact."

Just more centrist hot air.
But they aren't centrists. Bernie is a centrist. Both establishment parties are so far to the right as to negate any real differences between them. For proof, one just needs to look at the Obama presidency.
 
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