When to flush

[Yodaweed]

You flush when you are finished with the toilet

 

[auto1dwc]

Flush toilets not plants. Flushers always gonna flush no matter what you tell them and the biology behind it!!!

Drill this in to your heads will you.
This is something I got told to do and as far as I know it works for me,
Potent smell, taste is exactly to what it is. And a smooth smoke.
I grow 1 plant at a time as I'm limited to space, I grow for personal use only. This 1 plant produces enough for me and my friends to toke until the next one is ready.
If I have more than I need I give it to my friends which just lately I have been producing a lot more than I need.
What I'm saying is I have no confidence in not flushing so I can't afford to do it.
Can you show me some proof of all this like a link or something.
I have heard of people not flushing with mixed opinions.
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, if I ever grow two then I will do the test to see the difference for myself.
This guy wanted information about flushing.
Not information about whether he should flush or not.
This wasn't my post by the way.

 

[Chunky Stool]

no amount of proper drying and proper curing will make poorly cared for, poorly fed/ over fed/underfed marijuanas grade a.
the idea was cash croppers could overfeed to the end, for the cabbage weight added, then flush with water to reduce the amount of unburned carbs in the plant material. they still overfeed today for the same reason. a stupid way to grow conno weed today.

overfed proper dry/cure weed will always be< properly fed properly dried/cured weed.

This is why dispensary weed is usually inferior. There's a lot of competition in the legal grow space and they are trying to maximize profit just to stay in business. It's unlikely that regular customers are connoisseurs. Most of them don't give a shit about harshness as long as they get high, so it's really a price thing.

 

[macsnax]

I don't flush, my weed tastes way better than what you can get around here at the dispensary. White ash, never black. I do a long cure and end up with better potency too. Just throwing that out there....

 

[auto1dwc]

flushing expedites the maturing process because the plant knows she's dying. you want huge fat sticky buds and don't mind waiting a little longer, try not flushing.

I get huge fat sticky buds...
And the buds still grow and swell.
When in flush.what you going on about.

 

[Chunky Stool]

I don't flush, my weed tastes way better than what you can get around here at the dispensary. White ash, never black. I do a long cure and end up with better potency too. Just throwing that out there....

Dispensary weed was better back when it was medicinal only. A lot of patients grew their own medicine and had a little extra that they sold to dispensaries. (All perfectly legal.) This is where most of the really good dispensary weed came from.
Full legalization of recreational cannabis fucked everything up.

 

[macsnax]

I hear that, it seems money and greed is the root of the problem.

 

[Fractured but whole]

Dispensary weed was better back when it was medicinal only. A lot of patients grew their own medicine and had a little extra that they sold to dispensaries. (All perfectly legal.) This is where most of the really good dispensary weed came from.
Full legalization of recreational cannabis fucked everything up.

great genetics are hard to come by, you can grow all the clones you want, but the really good stuff is usually in a small grow.

 

[Lite]

the root of the problem is cannabis being outlawed for decades and preventing us from studying this openly

 

[Buba Blend]

Drill this in to your heads will you.
This is something I got told to do and as far as I know it works for me,
Potent smell, taste is exactly to what it is. And a smooth smoke.
I grow 1 plant at a time as I'm limited to space, I grow for personal use only. This 1 plant produces enough for me and my friends to toke until the next one is ready.
If I have more than I need I give it to my friends which just lately I have been producing a lot more than I need.
What I'm saying is I have no confidence in not flushing so I can't afford to do it.
Can you show me some proof of all this like a link or something.
I have heard of people not flushing with mixed opinions.
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, if I ever grow two then I will do the test to see the difference for myself.
This guy wanted information about flushing.
Not information about whether he should flush or not.
This wasn't my post by the way.

OMG!
If it is not bad enough that you are advocating flushing as a must do.
If it is not bad enough that you are giving bad advice about nutrient use without even caring to know if a person is in soil or is soiless.
Now I see you told a newbie to defoliate his plant not once but to continue removing leaves.
You are a very bad Troll aren't you.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/week-5-flower.951770/page-2

 

[Dr. Who]

Just so I can wrap my mind around this because, from the time I started researching, the large majority of the information I've gotten says to flush but the general consensus here is that's wasted effort that doesn't affect the end product in any way? Granted when I harvest I intend to flush so my environment is 'pure' and ready for the next batch. That's just good practice in any operation from manufacturing to growing but this is an entirely new thought process for me.

I'll bet that all your answers and things you found in that research, is from nutrient makers or those who owe them something.

In reality, nothing in growing/farming gets a "flush"! NOTHING, and that includes any tobacco product! Including cigar tobacco's that can reach per "stick" prices of over $25.00 each.....

For tobacco, it's all in the cure. In Holland, they grow hydroponic tomato's for much of the EU.....They don't "flush" those either....

I don't understand a "pure environment" in your context. I build and recycle my own soils. The plants I have running in bloom right now, are in soil that has been re amended and re used for over 3 years....No buildups, no burnt plants, no problems! If your confusing the cleaning of a hydro system after a run. That's totally a different thing!

I understand the difficulty in "wrapping your head around" this new idea (to you). I suggest you simply try a plant done that way. Run it out by feeding normally to the last cpl of weeks. If you hit it with high P&K supplements. Stop that at that 2 weeks left and normal feed it out to the end. I stop all nutrient a cpl of days ahead of my harvest. It simply saves me the cost of the nutrient, because the remains of it in the soil. Will carry it out that last few days.....Not a fade either!

Dry it at 50% RH in an area of 70deg F.
Dry till you can bend the stems and they "crack" and not simply bend and not crack.
I then jar. The jars have 62% Bovida packs in them. I open the jars daily for a week. Say a few minutes while I water and screw them tight again. Do this for a week.
Then set'em and forget'em for 5 more weeks and try a bud or 2. Let some go another 2 weeks and try that...

If the material gets under "like" 54% RH, it quits curing....
Silica use makes for dark and hard ash.
Uncured sugars make for bad tastes and "crackling".

 

[GodfatherKCCO]

I'll bet that all your answers and things you found in that research, is from nutrient makers or those who owe them something.

In reality, nothing in growing/farming gets a "flush"! NOTHING, and that includes any tobacco product! Including cigar tobacco's that can reach per "stick" prices of over $25.00 each.....

For tobacco, it's all in the cure. In Holland, they grow hydroponic tomato's for much of the EU.....They don't "flush" those either....

I don't understand a "pure environment" in your context. I build and recycle my own soils. The plants I have running in bloom right now, are in soil that has been re amended and re used for over 3 years....No buildups, no burnt plants, no problems! If your confusing the cleaning of a hydro system after a run. That's totally a different thing!

I understand the difficulty in "wrapping your head around" this new idea (to you). I suggest you simply try a plant done that way. Run it out by feeding normally to the last cpl of weeks. If you hit it with high P&K supplements. Stop that at that 2 weeks left and normal feed it out to the end. I stop all nutrient a cpl of days ahead of my harvest. It simply saves me the cost of the nutrient, because the remains of it in the soil. Will carry it out that last few days.....Not a fade either!

Dry it at 50% RH in an area of 70deg F.
Dry till you can bend the stems and they "crack" and not simply bend and not crack.
I then jar. The jars have 62% Bovida packs in them. I open the jars daily for a week. Say a few minutes while I water and screw them tight again. Do this for a week.
Then set'em and forget'em for 5 more weeks and try a bud or 2. Let some go another 2 weeks and try that...

If the material gets under "like" 54% RH, it quits curing....
Silica use makes for dark and hard ash.
Uncured sugars make for bad tastes and "crackling".

Good stuff man. Copied and pasted to my 'remember this' folder

as far as 'pure environment' what I meant is that I'm going to go aeroponic. It seems like that will be the best setup for me in the colder months as I will have the indoor space and I've read a lot of good things about it. So, when I'm moving a plant from veg to flower, I plan on flushing and cleaning the system before I put new clones in there. Same with the flower area. Clean it real good then get my nutes running before I put my vegged clones in. Seems like a good practice to me but you may disagree.

 

[Dr. Who]

Drill this in to your heads will you.
This is something I got told to do and as far as I know it works for me,
Potent smell, taste is exactly to what it is. And a smooth smoke.
I grow 1 plant at a time as I'm limited to space, I grow for personal use only. This 1 plant produces enough for me and my friends to toke until the next one is ready.
If I have more than I need I give it to my friends which just lately I have been producing a lot more than I need.
What I'm saying is I have no confidence in not flushing so I can't afford to do it.
Can you show me some proof of all this like a link or something.
I have heard of people not flushing with mixed opinions.
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, if I ever grow two then I will do the test to see the difference for myself.
This guy wanted information about flushing.
Not information about whether he should flush or not.
This wasn't my post by the way.

The problem with finding any scholarly reports/papers on that subject is like - none available..... There is nothing that gets flushed! No reason to research it for that and the fact that you can not "flush" nutrients from a plant ....... Not possible by the biology of the plant!

You can not research something that is NOT possible......

 

[Dr. Who]

Good stuff man. Copied and pasted to my 'remember this' folder

as far as 'pure environment' what I meant is that I'm going to go aeroponic. It seems like that will be the best setup for me in the colder months as I will have the indoor space and I've read a lot of good things about it. So, when I'm moving a plant from veg to flower, I plan on flushing and cleaning the system before I put new clones in there. Same with the flower area. Clean it real good then get my nutes running before I put my vegged clones in. Seems like a good practice to me but you may disagree.

I would not "flush" a system with plants in it to clean it.....

Best way to clean and at least sanitize any hydro equipment for the next run. Is to do a H2O2 wash and scrub... Look up hydrogen peroxide sanitizing mix's for sanitizing growing equipment...

 

[GodfatherKCCO]

I would not "flush" a system with plants in it to clean it.....

Best way to clean and at least sanitize any hydro equipment for the next run. Is to do a H2O2 wash and scrub... Look up hydrogen peroxide sanitizing mix's for sanitizing growing equipment...

Roger that and thanks again.

I was thinking if I got double the number of nozzles I need I can put in a fresh set of heads every time and clean the old ones during their downtime.

HAHA... my lady was just reading over my shoulder and shook her head at me. She said 'One of the things I love about you is no matter what you do you do it 110% but sometimes you're ridiculous about it'. God I love that girl

 

[Chunky Stool]

I'll bet that all your answers and things you found in that research, is from nutrient makers or those who owe them something.

In reality, nothing in growing/farming gets a "flush"! NOTHING, and that includes any tobacco product! Including cigar tobacco's that can reach per "stick" prices of over $25.00 each.....

For tobacco, it's all in the cure. In Holland, they grow hydroponic tomato's for much of the EU.....They don't "flush" those either....

I don't understand a "pure environment" in your context. I build and recycle my own soils. The plants I have running in bloom right now, are in soil that has been re amended and re used for over 3 years....No buildups, no burnt plants, no problems! If your confusing the cleaning of a hydro system after a run. That's totally a different thing!

I understand the difficulty in "wrapping your head around" this new idea (to you). I suggest you simply try a plant done that way. Run it out by feeding normally to the last cpl of weeks. If you hit it with high P&K supplements. Stop that at that 2 weeks left and normal feed it out to the end. I stop all nutrient a cpl of days ahead of my harvest. It simply saves me the cost of the nutrient, because the remains of it in the soil. Will carry it out that last few days.....Not a fade either!

Dry it at 50% RH in an area of 70deg F.
Dry till you can bend the stems and they "crack" and not simply bend and not crack.
I then jar. The jars have 62% Bovida packs in them. I open the jars daily for a week. Say a few minutes while I water and screw them tight again. Do this for a week.
Then set'em and forget'em for 5 more weeks and try a bud or 2. Let some go another 2 weeks and try that...

If the material gets under "like" 54% RH, it quits curing....
Silica use makes for dark and hard ash.
Uncured sugars make for bad tastes and "crackling".

Are you sure about silica making "dark and hard ash"?
That's new one.
I've also heard it's from overfeeding.
I've also heard it's from too much moisture.

Who knows??? (pun intended)

 

[kingtitan]

Sometimes flushing can be hard to get a hang of. Its quite easy for me now with decades of practice but I am having a bit of a struggle getting my son to flush after he goes to the toilet.

Yeah I am bored, also this forum seems to be 20% Flushing.

 

[Bugeye]

You can grow weed in the wrong medium, at wrong temp and humidity, under poor lighting, with poor airflow, and still get top shelf dank by knowing when to flush. It is the key to everything and really the only thing a good grower needs to know. Dr. Who is afraid to admit this as it would invalidate all the other bullshit he wasted his time learning.

Flush early, flush often. Flush, flush, flush.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Sometimes flushing can be hard to get a hang of. Its quite easy for me now with decades of practice but I am having a bit of a struggle getting my son to flush after he goes to the toilet.

Yeah I am bored, also this forum seems to be 20% Flushing.

Sometimes flushing doesn't work.
Then I have to go back & give the handle a jiggle.

 

[Chunky Stool]

At my previous house, a new neighbor was moving in next door and he gave me some nutes the previous owner had left behind.
It was a two-part flush! I'm totally serious. It was called "Dutch Majic" (intentionally misspelled). It was really old & I couldn't find it on the internet. Wish I had kept it just for fun.
The funny part is, I never knew my neighbor grew pot!
He had three teenagers at the time & I have no idea how they kept it a secret. Hell, I'm not sure where the grow space was. He didn't have an extra bedroom and parked his cars in the garage.
Weird.