Opinions on nutes
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Personally I think its mostly a preference issue. Organic can lead to higher brix levels and better terpene profiles but well grown hydroponic weed fed nothing but salts can be great too.
That being said I can usually tell the difference, I just don't really care so long as it's not booboo.
Organic typically yields less and grows slower than hydro, although very experienced organic Gardeners can close that gap with a few teas and tricks in a proper environment.
Biobizz are good nutrients, I know people that use them and have no issues. But in reality all nutrients work in very similar ways, you just want to find a line that's complete and work off of that. For my non organic grows I like heavy16 the most right now bit I've used maxicrop, gh trio, fox farms, canna, and botanicare all to good effect.
Things that you should look for in your nutrients are: kelp, amino acids, silica, humic/fulvic acids, triacontinol if you want it, lots of calcium, some form of sulfur either in potassium sulfate or gypsum(calcium sulfate?).
You can piece them all together from different lines but make sure your base is all the same brand.
That being said I can usually tell the difference, I just don't really care so long as it's not booboo.
Organic typically yields less and grows slower than hydro, although very experienced organic Gardeners can close that gap with a few teas and tricks in a proper environment.
Biobizz are good nutrients, I know people that use them and have no issues. But in reality all nutrients work in very similar ways, you just want to find a line that's complete and work off of that. For my non organic grows I like heavy16 the most right now bit I've used maxicrop, gh trio, fox farms, canna, and botanicare all to good effect.
Things that you should look for in your nutrients are: kelp, amino acids, silica, humic/fulvic acids, triacontinol if you want it, lots of calcium, some form of sulfur either in potassium sulfate or gypsum(calcium sulfate?).
You can piece them all together from different lines but make sure your base is all the same brand.
MichiganMedGrower
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If you have to ask my suggestion is to use a 1 bottle base Grow nute only start to finish and learn how to read plants and fertilize properly.
Dyna Grow foliage pro is mineral based and Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow is an organic hybrid. Just 2 good examples.
Plants need nothing else unless the source water is very soft or ro water then you may need a calcium additive.
Dyna Grow foliage pro is mineral based and Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow is an organic hybrid. Just 2 good examples.
Plants need nothing else unless the source water is very soft or ro water then you may need a calcium additive.
I prefer cns17 as a standalone from botanicare.
mauricem00
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I have been growing for a few years but am new to organic growing and this is only my second organic grow so I'm still studying and learning about it but I did see an improvement I was not expecting with my first organic grow. I came across this article and was wondering if any cannabis growers has tried this? https://modernfarmer.com/2014/01/human-pee-proven-fertilizer-future/ I don't think we need expensive hydro shop fertilizers to grow top notch plants. espoma tomato tone gave me a significant improvement over the chemical fertilizer I've been using and was very inexpensive when I bought it on sale at walmart
MichiganMedGrower
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Forgot about that one. I never tried it. It is much like foliage pro.
MichiganMedGrower
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Powdered nutes like tomato tone and jacks are great too. Again. Organic and mineral options.
But watch out as most do not have any calcium included as they are designed for outdoor soil and tap water.
Depending on water source and medium you may need a calcium supplement like I said above.
And in my opinion and testing the advantage to organics is many more micro nutrients included because of the natural ingredients. Seaweed for instance has over 60 available trace elements alone.
Plants can use more than the 17 elements they put in fertilizer.
Daveindiego
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I haven’t killed anything yet using House and Garden liquid nutrients in my indoor Coco medium under 600w.
But I have cut back by nearly half on their recommended feeding schedule.
But I have cut back by nearly half on their recommended feeding schedule.
mauricem00
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tomato tone has calcium but it lacks magnesium. Epson salt or molasses is a good source for these but thank you for your input.
mauricem00
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true. commercial growers have different goals than PU MMJ growers. hydro and HPS will give you the best yield but once I learned enough to be able to produce enough to meet our needs. ( my S.O and myself) then I began focusing on improving quality. in my state I can't sell what I grow but I can give it a way and the people I've given my surplus to claim it is better than what they find at the dispensaries or on the street. but home grown is almost always better than commercially grown. with cannabis or vegetables we just take better care of our plants