Is this worth the purchase ?!

[Jimmy Verde]

Hello all! Jimmy signin in here with some questions as always lol, long story short wanted to make my own cob led fixtures seeing how the one I wanted is like 2k (insane) but honestly can't get the money together quite quick enough.. I got these deal I can snap for 1000 bucks 8 xxxl magnum hoods phantom ballasts and bulbs with 1 run on them and bulbs with 2 runs on them the lights have a fixture to hold them all together too what's your honest opinion not worried about his electric bills either

 

[Cletus clem]

Bulbs with 1 run are already at half their life. 2 runs are toast imo. Unless theyre hortilux, worthless. What kind of head room do you have? Id be relyctant to drop a stack on used equipment unless from a grower i know and trust. You can get brand new hid gear with waranty cheap enough these days. Adjust a wing reflectors are cheap and effective if youre not running glass and cooling. Which is another topic. You really cant run 8k without sufficient cooling. Even with glass and air cooling you would still need a pretty good ac for all that. I think your money could be better spent honestly. Thats just me. If i was going to spend a stack on lighting, id be buying quantum boards and/or COB components to make my own lights. Look into actively cooled citizen clu058 or 70v vero 29 gen 7. Less chips at a higher drive current can be a great way to get your foot in the door with led. When you upgrade you can spread those out and fill in with more chips in a more efficient range and dial fill out your spectrum. Plenty of resources here and on youtube for diy builds.

 

[Jimmy Verde]

Looked into cobs to buy an already made fixture to cover a 5x5 is more money then this and I don't have much experience building them click nor much time the room that's it's going to be in is like 30 feet long 20 wide and a basement to usually freezing

 

[Jimmy Verde]

Just mad money to run them I'm on a short time frame that's why Im jumping to this o just buying like raptors and I feel this is better and gear looks clean still

 

[Corso312]

I wouldn't spend a dollar on Hids, 8 new bulbs will cost you 750$ .. Buy some Quantum boards. Buy what ya can and buy more after ya harvest

 

[mauricem00]

Hello all! Jimmy signin in here with some questions as always lol, long story short wanted to make my own cob led fixtures seeing how the one I wanted is like 2k (insane) but honestly can't get the money together quite quick enough.. I got these deal I can snap for 1000 bucks 8 xxxl magnum hoods phantom ballasts and bulbs with 1 run on them and bulbs with 2 runs on them the lights have a fixture to hold them all together too what's your honest opinion not worried about his electric bills either

seems like you can get new equipment and bulbs for that price https://www.ebay.com/itm/iPower-250w-400w-600w-1000w-watt-HPS-MH-Grow-Light-System-Kit-Dimm-Green-House/180877784621?hash=item2a1d27f62d:m:mGLmm4R5kLmeYNSbWbE6gEQ bulbs may claim a 20,000 hour life expectancy but they lose output so fast that they are only good for growing for 9-12 month at 12/12

 

[mauricem00]

I wouldn't spend a dollar on Hids, 8 new bulbs will cost you 750$ .. Buy some Quantum boards. Buy what ya can and buy more after ya harvest

dude they saw you coming https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/88101/PX-LU1000.html $170 for 8 bulbs not $750

 

[Corso312]

Those bulbs are shit, those are MH too.

 

[Jimmy Verde]

seems like you can get new equipment and bulbs for that price https://www.ebay.com/itm/iPower-250w-400w-600w-1000w-watt-HPS-MH-Grow-Light-System-Kit-Dimm-Green-House/180877784621?hash=item2a1d27f62d:m:mGLmm4R5kLmeYNSbWbE6gEQ bulbs may claim a 20,000 hour life expectancy but they lose output so fast that they are only good for growing for 9-12 month at 12/12

Those don't look like the'll cover as much as the xxxl hoods and the gear seems cheaper

 

[Jimmy Verde]

I thought bulbs were good for 18 months of use honestly or like 3 grows no? And how can u tell there mh thought mh was for veg

 

[Jimmy Verde]

Those bulbs are shit, those are MH too.

thought bulbs were good for 18 months of use honestly or like 3 grows no? And how can u tell there mh thought mh was for veg

 

[Corso312]

My bad..i was looking at the picture of the MH bulb underneath that write up. I've tried every kind of 1k cheap bulb on the market..( Im cheap)they suck, they lose their brightness weekly. The hortilux last 2 grows with real intensity, noticable difference in the plants.

 

[ANC]

I'd be all over those ballasts if I lived in a legal area.
COB grows are a more advanced skill. It is not as smooth in all respects as it would appear on paper.
If you keep HIDs at the recommended height with a large reflector hood you can dance around the 1gpW mark all year long.

 

[Jimmy Verde]

Bulbs with 1 run are already at half their life. 2 runs are toast imo. Unless theyre hortilux, worthless. What kind of head room do you have? Id be relyctant to drop a stack on used equipment unless from a grower i know and trust. You can get brand new hid gear with waranty cheap enough these days. Adjust a wing reflectors are cheap and effective if youre not running glass and cooling. Which is another topic. You really cant run 8k without sufficient cooling. Even with glass and air cooling you would still need a pretty good ac for all that. I think your money could be better spent honestly. Thats just me. If i was going to spend a stack on lighting, id be buying quantum boards and/or COB components to make my own lights. Look into actively cooled citizen clu058 or 70v vero 29 gen 7. Less chips at a higher drive current can be a great way to get your foot in the door with led. When you upgrade you can spread those out and fill in with more chips in a more efficient range and dial fill out your spectrum. Plenty of resources here and on youtube for diy builds.

Got a 30 foot long 20 wide basement
Looked into cobs wanted them badly everything is diy or super pricey for the amount of area I want to cover

 

[ANC]

I would spend the money making sure you can handle the heat generated by that amount of light first, then see how much I have left over for lights.
Buy that amount of lights and do a run, it should pay for the rest of the upgrades.

If you do that, can resist over feeding and water the plants, you will be pulling pounds in 30 weeks from now.

 

[Jimmy Verde]

I'd be all over those ballasts if I lived in a legal area.
COB grows are a more advanced skill. It is not as smooth in all respects as it would appear on paper.
If you keep HIDs at the recommended height with a large reflector hood you can dance around the 1gpW mark all year long.

The Phantom ballasts? From my post? And ya Im hoping 1gpw I can Def control the heat.... I hope

 

[ANC]

The trick is really growing to let the weed grow for 12 weeks without messing up once on any parameter.
A 1000W over 5x5 or 4x6 is enough for a pound and a half (or more if you have everything dialed in).

This includes gradually building up PPM levels by dividing the end goal (for a first run try for 750ppm at the end) into the number of weeks. increase feeding by that much each week. DO the same with light output

 

[Cletus clem]

@Corso312 im with you man. 2 cycles, even with the hortilux bulbs. The first thing to go is the blue which is what youre paying for. The thing that people miss is the degradation isnt visible. “They look fine!”. They are not. Much like the bulbs, the condition that the ballasts are in may not be seen either. Digital ballasts can be finicky and are pretty much disposable. They work, or they dont. If the room is that cold, light source isnt your fix. They only run half the day. What about the other half?

 

[ANC]

That is an important point, Cletus. Controlling climate parameters is a 24 hours a day thing.

That is why I say, build the climate control first, then get the lights.

Letting it swing around as per outdoor temps and lights on and off changes, are far from ideal

Once you can control heat, you need control of humidity too.

Get a HYG-E 7001 controller. THey are about the same price as many of the units that can only control a fan and heater like you would to prevent dew forming on components.

 

[Jimmy Verde]

@Corso312 im with you man. 2 cycles, even with the hortilux bulbs. The first thing to go is the blue which is what youre paying for. The thing that people miss is the degradation isnt visible. “They look fine!”. They are not. Much like the bulbs, the condition that the ballasts are in may not be seen either. Digital ballasts can be finicky and are pretty much disposable. They work, or they dont. If the room is that cold, light source isnt your fix. They only run half the day. What about the other half?

What about it other half will be dark