Trump's "shithole" gaff.

Fogdog

Fogdog

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Terps said:
Then please tell me the definition. I am pretty sure it is open to interpretation. No one like you was enough for me.
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look it up, derp. Wing nuts right and left like to interpret words however they like but that's not how a common language works.
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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twostrokenut said:
who is implying race has anything to do with said shithole?

when someone says Haiti for example is a shithole, then someone says that's racist, the person screaming racist is the one making the implication.

I can absolutely think of several predominantly white countries that I would consider shitholes and it would be perfectly pc to say so. right or wrong?
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The problem is not saying a piece of dirt is a shithole, the problem is implicating its citizenry as part or all the reason given piece of dirt is a shithole. There are places that could be described as shitholes as a stand alone statement. The key difference here is Mr. Trump is very clearly implying that he doesn't want people from these places he believes to be shitholes (including an entire continent) because there is an obvious implication that the people from there are part of it being a shithole. I wouldn't agree with him but if he wanted no one from anywhere, it would be wrong but not as vengeful of this was. Because Africans should be barred but Normegians are great to come over. Well whats different about a Normegian than an African? If a Normegian and an African are completely equal persons-then why would we not want someone from Africa but are okay with someone from Normay? His statement clearly implies that the people themselves from those countries are part of the "shitholiness" of those countries... Context in almost any statement means more than the individual worlds themselves.
 
Terps

Terps

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Huckster79 said:
The problem is not saying a piece of dirt is a shithole, the problem is implicating its citizenry as part or all the reason given piece of dirt is a shithole. There are places that could be described as shitholes as a stand alone statement. The key difference here is Mr. Trump is very clearly implying that he doesn't want people from these places he believes to be shitholes (including an entire continent) because there is an obvious implication that the people from there are part of it being a shithole. I wouldn't agree with him but if he wanted no one from anywhere, it would be wrong but not as vengeful of this was. Because Africans should be barred but Normegians are great to come over. Well whats different about a Normegian than an African? If a Normegian and an African are completely equal persons-then why would we not want someone from Africa but are okay with someone from Normay? His statement clearly implies that the people themselves from those countries are part of the "shitholiness" of those countries... Context in almost any statement means more than the individual worlds themselves.
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Gotta love Identity politics and those who get sucked into it.
 
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