First grow shopping list 5 x 5 hydroponic LED tent help

[Mariano Gomes]

So this is what I came up with researching for a week I need to cut costs though so any suggestions for different products btw I live by the equator so our problem here is heat and high humidity. P.S. I copied and pasted this from amazon sorry for the stuff with underlines and different colors for some reason the forum won't let me properly change the format. TY.


Grow Tent:
Apollo Horticulture 60”x60”x80” Mylar Hydroponic Grow Tent for Indoor Plant Growing

Lights:
2 x Morsen 2000W Double Chips LED Grow Light Full Spectrum 200x10W Grow Lamp for Greenhouse Hydroponic Indoor Plants Veg and Flower (10w Leds)

100 Watt UVA UVB Mercury Vapor Bulb / Lamp / Light for Reptile and Amphibian Use - Excellent UVA UVB Reptile Light / Reptile Bulb

Measuring and testing units:
PH Meter with Automatic Calibration, 7Pros High Accuracy Pen Type Water Quality Tester, 6 pH Buffer Powder Packets, Best Tool for Testing PH of Fish Tank, Pool, Pond, Kombucha, Wine and Drinking Water

AcuRite 00613 Humidity Monitor with Indoor Thermometer, Digital Hygrometer and Humidity Gauge Indicator

HM Digital AP-1 AquaPro Water Quality Total Dissolved Solids Tester, 0-5000 ppm TDS Range, 1 ppm Resolution, +/- 2% Readout Accuracy (Magnetic Body)

HM Digital 1000ppm TDS Calibration Solution

Grow medium:
HTG Supply Bubble Brothers 6-Site DWC Hydroponic System


Hydroponic nutrients:
General Hydroponics FloraGro, FloraBloom, FloraMicro Combo Fertilizer set + 1oz Rapidstart (Quarts)

General Hydroponics CALiMAGic Quart

Botanicare LIQUID KARMA Plant Growth Enhancer Supplement 0.1-0.1-0.5 Formula, 1-Quart

Botanicare HYDROGUARD Bacillus Root Inoculant, 1-Quart


Miscelanous:
Grower's Edge Green Twist Tie Dispenser w/ Cutter - 164 ft (6/Cs)

Zip Ties, 500 Pcs Adjustable Durable Self locking Black Nylon Zip Cable Ties for Home Office Garage Workshop Heavy Duty

3 x Apollo Horticulture GLRP18 Pair of 1/8" Adjustable Grow Light Rope Hanger w/ Improved Metal Internal Gears

TERAPUMP TRHD03 2D Battery Operated Liquid, Gas, Water Transfer Pump w/Auto-Stop System (Leak protection)and Buzzer


Automation:
Autopilot TM01015 Analog Grounded Timer, 1725W, 15A, 15 Minute On/Off, 24 Hour15 Grounded Timer, 15 Amp, 1725 Watt

Urban Farmer Weekly 7 Day Programmable Dual Outlet Digital Timer

Inkbird Itc-308 Digital Temperature Controller Outlet Thermostat, 2-stage, 1100w, w/ Sensor

Grozone Control TP3 High Temperature Shut-Off Tempstat

Temperature and humidity control:
hOmeLabs 9 Gallon (70 Pint) Dehumidifier Energy Star Safe Mid Size Portable Dehumidifiers for Basements Large Rooms up to 4000 Sq Ft with Fan Wheels and Drain Hose Outlet to Remove Odor and Allergens


Scent control:
Phresh 701005 Carbon Air Filter, 6 by 16-Inch, 400 CFM

Active Air 400 CFM Inline Fan, 6-Inch

iPower 6 Inch 25 Feet Air Ducting Dryer Vent Hose for HVAC Ventilation, 2 Clamps included

Active Air ACSC Duct Fan Speed Adjuster


Drying and curing:
Boveda 62-Percent RH 2-Way Humidity Control, 8 gram - 10 Pack

Caliber IV Digital Hygromter by Western Humidor

SHINE HAI Professional Hand Pruner Bypass Pruning Shears with Safety Lock, Tree Trimmers Secateurs, Garden Shears, Clippers for the Garden

Fiskars Softouch Micro-Tip Pruning Snip

Carson MicroBrite Plus 60x-120x Power LED Lighted Pocket Microscope (MM-300)

Cloning and seedling:
General Hydroponics Rapid Rooter Replacement Plugs 50 count

Cloning Kit: Cut Kit Tray 11" x 21", 72 Cell Tray, Humidity Dome 7.5", Rapid Rooter 50 Plugs, Clonex Rooting Gel 100 ml + Twin Canaries Chart

 

[MickFoster]

How are you going to keep your reservoir cool?

 

[Mariano Gomes]

How are you going to keep your reservoir cool?

my ambient temperature here is from 25.5 °C (77.9 °F) to 28.3 °C(82.9 °F) depending if it is the rainy season or summer. Do I really need to cool my water reservoir? Damn from my knowledge on overclocking computers I think you are thinking of a chiller right? Those are expensive... Or are there cheap models or other alternatives if I really need to cool up my reservoir....

 

[greg nr]

2 x Morsen 2000W Double Chips LED Grow Light Full Spectrum

I looked up this light: this is what you need to know...

Avg. Power Draw: 365W

These aren't 2000 watt lights. They are inefficient 350w lights, and 700 w is not enough for a 5x5 tent.

Sorry. You will be better of with a 600 watt hps, which will still be under powered, than these lights. The coverage area will be better - the light from these led's is highly paralleled, meaning there isn't much spread. An HPS with a spreader will do a better job than these old tech blurples.

If you really want to go LED, go diy and look at quantum boards or cob's.

You will likely need a/c in either case. You can't cool hot with warm. It doesn't really work.

But rather than spending your entire egg in one shot, where you will surely buy crap that you will have to replace, why not start small? Get a 3x3 tent, one light, and get a few grows in with soil instead of hydro. Learn what works, and how plants grow. You can always get a 5x5 later and use the 3x3 for veg.

Sure, it takes time, but what doesn't?

Just sayin.....

 

[Mariano Gomes]

I looked up this light: this is what you need to know...

Avg. Power Draw: 365W

These aren't 2000 watt lights. They are inefficient 350w lights, and 700 w is not enough for a 5x5 tent.

Sorry. You will be better of with a 600 watt hps, which will still be under powered, than these lights. The coverage area will be better - the light from these led's is highly paralleled, meaning there isn't much spread. An HPS with a spreader will do a better job than these old tech blurples.

If you really want to go LED, go diy and look at quantum boards or cob's.

You will likely need a/c in either case. You can't cool hot with warm. It doesn't really work.

But rather than spending your entire egg in one shot, where you will surely buy crap that you will have to replace, why not start small? Get a 3x3 tent, one light, and get a few grows in with soil instead of hydro. Learn what works, and how plants grow. You can always get a 5x5 later and use the 3x3 for veg.

Sure, it takes time, but what doesn't?

Just sayin.....

I really don't have the option of going HPS for reasons I can't explain... but yeah you might be right about going small first let's see what would fit my budget.... because the next step eventually is a perpetual grow setup. I was thinking of getting 3 of these lights instead. I know how a lot of people don;t like china products but I just need them to last me like 4 grows and then upgrade to the more expensive LEDS.

 

[NanoGadget]

my ambient temperature here is from 25.5 °C (77.9 °F) to 28.3 °C(82.9 °F) depending if it is the rainy season or summer. Do I really need to cool my water reservoir? Damn from my knowledge on overclocking computers I think you are thinking of a chiller right? Those are expensive... Or are there cheap models or other alternatives if I really need to cool up my reservoir....

You definitely need to keep the reservoir cool. Water temps over 70f are a no no in DWC as above that you are at risk for all manner of beasties to begin growing in the res. It's important to decide if you are going to try for a sterile reservoir or if you would prefer to use beneficial bacteria to keep your root zone healthy.

 

[greg nr]

I really don't have the option of going HPS for reasons I can't explain... but yeah you might be right about going small first let's see what would fit my budget.... because the next step eventually is a perpetual grow setup. I was thinking of getting 3 of these lights instead. I know how a lot of people don;t like china products but I just need them to last me like 4 grows and then upgrade to the more expensive LEDS.

I get led's; I grow with 2 quantum boards in a 3x3. If you do go with a 3x3, you can get away with one of those lights. Just don't put them too close to your plants. If you put in a hydro table, they can end up within inches, which will be way too close since they aren't dimmable.

 

[Mariano Gomes]

You definitely need to keep the reservoir cool. Water temps over 70f are a no no in DWC as above that you are at risk for all manner of beasties to begin growing in the res. It's important to decide if you are going to try for a sterile reservoir or if you would prefer to use beneficial bacteria to keep your root zone healthy.

Can you point me to links for sterile or the beneficial bacteria method or teach me.

 

[Mariano Gomes]

I get led's; I grow with 2 quantum boards in a 3x3. If you do go with a 3x3, you can get away with one of those lights. Just don't put them too close to your plants. If you put in a hydro table, they can end up within inches, which will be way too close since they aren't dimmable.

Do you have a link for those quantum boards? I am going DWC not using tables

 

[greg nr]

Do you have a link for those quantum boards? I am going DWC not using tables

This can take a while to digest, but it covers the topic...

https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-with-quantum-boards.927159/

 

[NanoGadget]

Can you point me to links for sterile or the beneficial bacteria method or teach me.

I'll try to dig up some links, but the basic idea is to keep any harmful bacterial or fungal growth out of your reservoir. The sterile approach involves using temperature control and a sterilizing agent (if needed) to keep your res completely free of organisms. The beneficial approach involves using helpful bacteria to keep harmful bacteria at bay. This is usually accomplished through the use of products like hydrogaurd or great white.

 

[NanoGadget]

I get led's; I grow with 2 quantum boards in a 3x3. If you do go with a 3x3, you can get away with one of those lights. Just don't put them too close to your plants. If you put in a hydro table, they can end up within inches, which will be way too close since they aren't dimmable.

Not dimmable? What boards/drivers are you using?

 

[greg nr]

Not dimmable? What boards/drivers are you using?

I wasn't talking about my led's; I use a dimmable driver. I was talking about the blurple box he listed above. It isn't dimmable.

 

[Mariano Gomes]

oh

I'll try to dig up some links, but the basic idea is to keep any harmful bacterial or fungal growth out of your reservoir. The sterile approach involves using temperature control and a sterilizing agent (if needed) to keep your res completely free of organisms. The beneficial approach involves using helpful bacteria to keep harmful bacteria at bay. This is usually accomplished through the use of products like hydrogaurd or great white.

nice I already have hydroguard on my list but even if I do I still need to keep temps under 70f right?

 

[Mariano Gomes]

I get led's; I grow with 2 quantum boards in a 3x3. If you do go with a 3x3, you can get away with one of those lights. Just don't put them too close to your plants. If you put in a hydro table, they can end up within inches, which will be way too close since they aren't dimmable.

I was thinking to lower costs \and get the best lights if I start with a 2x2 will that be enough for a seedling cloning tent in the future because my final setup would be 2 tents one for seedling/clones 1 bigger tent for flowering/vegging I won't really need a 3rd veg tent since the flowering tent will be used for vegging as well. I will be doing DWC hydro.

The reason I chose Hydro is because I live in a place where there are a lot of neighbors and carrying soil around would be suspicious......

 

[NanoGadget]

I wasn't talking about my led's; I use a dimmable driver. I was talking about the blurple box he listed above. It isn't dimmable.

Ok gotcha. I misread that. I just got HLG's 135w kit and I'm super stoked to get it over some green leaves.

 

[greg nr]

I was thinking to lower costs \and get the best lights if I start with a 2x2 will that be enough for a seedling cloning tent in the future because my final setup would be 2 tents one for seedling/clones 1 bigger tent for flowering/vegging I won't really need a 3rd veg tent since the flowering tent will be used for vegging as well. I will be doing DWC hydro.

The reason I chose Hydro is because I live in a place where there are a lot of neighbors and carrying soil around would be suspicious......

Hydro is fine, just realize it will react very quickly to negative results. In soil you might have a week to react to a problem, in dwc you might have only a few days.

What is the temp of your fresh cold water supply? If it comes from a well in the 50's, you can set up a copper immersion coil and just run rap water through it on a controller. Just a thunk.

 

[Mariano Gomes]

Hydro is fine, just realize it will react very quickly to negative results. In soil you might have a week to react to a problem, in dwc you might have only a few days.

What is the temp of your fresh cold water supply? If it comes from a well in the 50's, you can set up a copper immersion coil and just run rap water through it on a controller. Just a thunk.

Yeah I read those risks....

Just ordered an aquarium thermometer will answer here once I get results.

 

[Chumly]

Hydro is fine, just realize it will react very quickly to negative results. In soil you might have a week to react to a problem, in dwc you might have only a few days.

What is the temp of your fresh cold water supply? If it comes from a well in the 50's, you can set up a copper immersion coil and just run rap water through it on a controller. Just a thunk.

I'm just a noob here, but I thought copper tubing in a Rez with an acidic solutionis a big no no? Wouldn't that leach too much copper into the Rez, that's why the expensive chiller's have titanium or stainless steel coils.

 

[Lordhooha]

Hydro is fine, just realize it will react very quickly to negative results. In soil you might have a week to react to a problem, in dwc you might have only a few days.

What is the temp of your fresh cold water supply? If it comes from a well in the 50's, you can set up a copper immersion coil and just run rap water through it on a controller. Just a thunk.

Shit things can go south in hydro in hours