Weird smell

Ta2d1031

Ta2d1031

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Fubard said:
Neither did I, I gave an example of how it can happen. He just said it was fresh out of the box and, as I said earlier, we don't know how it was stored or whatever before he bought it, or how long he's had it, and so on.

And pulling it through means that anything in the filter/fan set up doesn't get pulled through the filter so anything from where the filter joins onto the fan/ducting is, effectively, unfiltered. That's why I say run things without the filter and if there's still a niff then it's not the filter that's the problem, there could be something else lurking in the system, especially with flexi-duct if the fan hasn't been running for a while and has allowed condensation to settle.

Without being able to physically get up close and personal with the setup, it's all guess work but things can be eliminated as the cause.
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Thanks. Filter bought new on Amazon 2 months ago. Fan and filter stored together in 70° dry basement. Set up per manufacturer.20180206_132928.jpg 20180206_132928.jpg
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Most likely it's just new filter smell kinda smells like off not sure if it say wet dog just off lol.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Bernie420 said:
300 might be to high. 150 would be better if you try this. This does dry out a wet filter but you need to do it slow. And if you do keep an eye on it rotate the filter. I used aluminum foil taped around the door opening as mine was a bit to big to fit in the oven to keep the heat in. It can catch fire from the heat as it is just charcoal and from first hand experience you dont want that to happen as they are a bitch to put out. Better have a fire plan if you do this


To the op you dont have a wet filter just new filter smell. Thats how you know its working if you dont like it and are not exhausting by your grow dryer sheets help get rid of the carbon filter smell or a glade air freshener.
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Sorry but, your seriously wrong!

The ignition point of activated carbon is > 750 F or 400 C.....

The hotter you run it. The better it cleans it out....

NEVER put anything that has odor in the line/system before the filter! If your running it in a room or tent that has anything like Ona or Glade in it. Your reducing the effective life of the filter...
You can "wash" and recharge the carbon in the filter. It comes out quite close to new and can be done many times...
Search for that info right here on this site! Use my screen name as the filter...
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Dr. Who said:
Sorry but, your seriously wrong!

The ignition point of activated carbon is > 750 F or 400 C.....

The hotter you run it. The better it cleans it out....

NEVER put anything that has odor in the line/system before the filter! If your running it in a room or tent that has anything like Ona or Glade in it. Your reducing the effective life of the filter...
You can "wash" and recharge the carbon in the filter. It comes out quite close to new and can be done many times...
Search for that info right here on this site! Use my screen name as the filter...
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Sorry but your seriously smoking to much of your shit. You weren't there were you NOPE not there it caught fire end of story so dont tell me Im wrong that my filter caught fire trying to dry it in an oven. And seriously you cant wash or recharge the carbon filters. And before you say yes you can dude I do it all of the time. Whatever you do it aint nothing like how they do it at the factory.
 
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Fubard

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It happens, something goes wrong in production or packing and something gets in, just one of these things as there's never 100% success rate and that month you were that 0.0001% that got the failure.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Bernie420 said:
Sorry but your seriously smoking to much of your shit. You weren't there were you NOPE not there it caught fire end of story so dont tell me Im wrong that my filter caught fire trying to dry it in an oven. And seriously you cant wash or recharge the carbon filters. And before you say yes you can dude I do it all of the time. Whatever you do it aint nothing like how they do it at the factory.
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Really smart ass?

They do it with carbon filters from drug labs all the damn time! I've SEEN IT DONE! My wife has a close friend that does it for another drug company! This is where my post on "how to" came from!

Manufacturing "activation" of the carbon is done by pressurized steam heat that reach's well over 1000 F (one method)......By keeping the carbon below the ignition point. You can safely perform a recharge in an oven. This is best done by placing the wet carbon (from a proper unscented, organic, biodegradable weak soap solution and multiple rinse's.) into the oven and drying it.... You should see the ovens used for this in the drug labs!

BTW, you do this buy removing the carbon from the container. Easy to do with a bit of work and resealed.

The ignition point of activated carbon IS greater then > 400 deg C !!!

The process in the labs is done at 250 C. That is just over 480 F....

I'm not saying you didn't have an issue. It's just that actual science throws a bit of a wrench into that claim....

To reach an "actual" ignition (begins to "glow" red) of simple charcoal. The temp must be 349 C..This "lower" ignition point is due to actual woody material still being in the charcoal... Possible "cheap" or improper manufactured carbon source. Could be!
The other point could be that your carbon had a very high amount of volatile "oils" accumulated in it! Hence the need to "WASH IT" first.....

I suggest you do some research into my statements....

I came across rather blunt and hard to start the first post. Sorry about that...

You can keep the smart ass BS to your self though!

Later.....
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Dr. Who said:
Really smart ass?

They do it with carbon filters from drug labs all the damn time! I've SEEN IT DONE! My wife has a close friend that does it for another drug company! This is where my post on "how to" came from!

Manufacturing "activation" of the carbon is done by pressurized steam heat that reach's well over 1000 F (one method)......By keeping the carbon below the ignition point. You can safely perform a recharge in an oven. This is best done by placing the wet carbon (from a proper unscented, organic, biodegradable weak soap solution and multiple rinse's.) into the oven and drying it.... You should see the ovens used for this in the drug labs!

BTW, you do this buy removing the carbon from the container. Easy to do with a bit of work and resealed.

The ignition point of activated carbon IS greater then > 400 deg C !!!

The process in the labs is done at 250 C. That is just over 480 F....

I'm not saying you didn't have an issue. It's just that actual science throws a bit of a wrench into that claim....

To reach an "actual" ignition (begins to "glow" red) of simple charcoal. The temp must be 349 C..This "lower" ignition point is due to actual woody material still being in the charcoal... Possible "cheap" or improper manufactured carbon source. Could be!
The other point could be that your carbon had a very high amount of volatile "oils" accumulated in it! Hence the need to "WASH IT" first.....

I suggest you do some research into my statements....

I came across rather blunt and hard to start the first post. Sorry about that...

You can keep the smart ass BS to your self though!

Later.....
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nope still doesnt explain how my carbon filter caught fire. Go get a 6'' phresh filter stick it in a gas oven set at 300 tape some aluminum, foil around the door because the oven isnt big enough to just put inside. Maybe with the heat escaping from the oven keeping the gas flowing and not turning the gas off because it never got hot enough to tell the sensor that its hot enough caused it to catch fire from the constant heat rising to the same spot located on the side of the filter. Is that plausible? And saying you can wash carbon by taking it out and rinsing it with a weak soap solution and then sticking it back into the filter after you dry it in an oven is the dumbest thing you can try to get people to do. Its not gunna happen. You aint gunna get the carbon back into the filter and think it will work like they do at the factory. And what a mess that would be.
 
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Fubard

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Bernie420 said:
nope still doesnt explain how my carbon filter caught fire. Go get a 6'' phresh filter stick it in a gas oven set at 300 tape some aluminum, foil around the door because the oven isnt big enough to just put inside. Maybe with the heat escaping from the oven keeping the gas flowing and not turning the gas off because it never got hot enough to tell the sensor that its hot enough caused it to catch fire from the constant heat rising to the same spot located on the side of the filter. Is that plausible? And saying you can wash carbon by taking it out and rinsing it with a weak soap solution and then sticking it back into the filter after you dry it in an oven is the dumbest thing you can try to get people to do. Its not gunna happen. You aint gunna get the carbon back into the filter and think it will work like they do at the factory. And what a mess that would be.
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So your filter was too big for the oven, so the door is left open allowing fresh air to circulate through the oven?

And you didn't rotate the filter?

Dude, you created a mini blast furnace, that's why something caught because the temperatures would be increased at the point where heat and fresh air mix the best thanks to you creating a blast furnace.

That's called stupidity of the highest order.

Oh, and if you do it right, removing/cleaning/replacing the carbon is not as messy as you like to make out. It's another case where the "6 P's" applies.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Fubard said:
So your filter was too big for the oven, so the door is left open allowing fresh air to circulate through the oven?

And you didn't rotate the filter?

Dude, you created a mini blast furnace, that's why something caught because the temperatures would be increased at the point where heat and fresh air mix the best thanks to you creating a blast furnace.

That's called stupidity of the highest order.

Oh, and if you do it right, removing/cleaning/replacing the carbon is not as messy as you like to make out. It's another case where the "6 P's" applies.
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Yup kinda and no i rotated it maybe not enough. So then I guess you believe it caught fire then like I said. It wasnt stupid. Whats stupid is thinking you can pull the carbon out of a filter and thinking you can clean and replace it and have it work like a new filter without making a huge mess on top of it. Now thats stupid.
 
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Fubard

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Bernie420 said:
Yup kinda and no i rotated it maybe not enough. So then I guess you believe it caught fire then like I said. It wasnt stupid. Whats stupid is thinking you can pull the carbon out of a filter and thinking you can clean and replace it and have it work like a new filter without making a huge mess on top of it. Now thats stupid.
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Something on your filter may have caught, but you can't say that putting the carbon in the oven can cause a fire because you created something that had nothing to do with it being in the oven and everything to do with you creating conditions which were WAY beyond that of cooking off anything in an oven properly. You REALLY thought tinfoil and tape would do the same as a closed oven door? Sorry son, but your stupidity caused any fire, not the carbon in the filter.

And I have refilled filters before, the joys of working on airco systems and so forth. Done properly it is not as bad as you are making out, it's not a clean process but by remembering the "6P's" it can be reasonable easy to manage. You would clearly just dump the whole thing on the kitchen table, and that would be the mess you are claiming it would be.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Fubard said:
Something on your filter may have caught, but you can't say that putting the carbon in the oven can cause a fire because you created something that had nothing to do with it being in the oven and everything to do with you creating conditions which were WAY beyond that of cooking off anything in an oven properly. You REALLY thought tinfoil and tape would do the same as a closed oven door? Sorry son, but your stupidity caused any fire, not the carbon in the filter.

And I have refilled filters before, the joys of working on airco systems and so forth. Done properly it is not as bad as you are making out, it's not a clean process but by remembering the "6P's" it can be reasonable easy to manage. You would clearly just dump the whole thing on the kitchen table, and that would be the mess you are claiming it would be.
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fuck off
 
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