Let's talk about Chemdog...

psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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Well I have an update.

Yesterday morning before lights out I hit them with a strong mix of cal-mag, Epsom salts, EJ sea blast grow, EJ sea blast bloom and B52.... Via foiliar. Yeah I know it sounds like a lot, and it is but man let me tell you, they did a complete 360 turn around!

The new growth looks amazing along with every thing else! It greened them right up and the new growth stems and all has transformed into greed just over night.

I am a huge believer in foilar feeds, I have been practicing it for years and always hit am once in between each feeding with a good strong foiliar during flower up till about the 4th week and then I back off.

Thanks everyone for the help, so believe the culprit was what I though to begin with... Too much K and not enough P... They love the calmag for sure!

They are due for feedings tonight, well half of them. They are on day u flower, I believe I am gonna go ahead and start the big bud and up the base nutes to almost full strength. If I notice burn, I will back down.

Simply put, no more seaweed and no more recharge from this point on.
 
DesertHydro

DesertHydro

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psychadelibud said:
Whoa yeah that looks ruff. Mine doesn't look near that bad. But as long as it is still performing at its maximum potential that's all good.

I will try and get photos at lights off in the morning. But right now every thing I have is under HID's and we know that doesn't turn out well.
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oh yeah, shes beautiful even with her mutation. from what i understand its kind of like patches of albino. not much green in the spots so they dont photosynthesize well. the one on the left is the one with the variegation and as you can see she is happy, healthy and perky and she tested at 30.2 % lol
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psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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DesertHydro said:
oh yeah, shes beautiful even with her mutation. from what i understand its kind of like patches of albino. not much green in the spots so they dont photosynthesize well. the one on the left is the one with the variegation and as you can see she is happy, healthy and perky and she tested at 30.2 % lol

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Hell yeah Desert! Those gals are some beasts.

What kind of setup do you run? What medium and nutes and feeding schedule you have them on?

My deficiency looks very similar but doesn't look as bad. Its not damaging the leaves but just discoloring them. Another thing is all of the 413 Chems all curl up at the little points in the leaves on the tips of the serrations.

I recommend you just take my word for it, honest to God. Try giving them a full strength dose of foliar fed nutrients and watch how they respond.
 
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psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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Mine were only vegged a little over a week before I threw them into 12/12, they were transplanted into the 5 gals about a week a.m. nd half before flower from 1 gal bags.
 
kona gold

kona gold

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psychadelibud said:
Hey Kona, I used 2 1/2 bags Pro-Mix BX total. I amended it with dolomite lime, one tbsp per gallon (should have used more) and plenty of perilite. The BX holds much more moisture than HP, but all that was available at the nursery out of town was BX. I have used both and as I enjoy HP much more, this BX drains excellent with all the added perilite in the mix. It had more than HP would originally have.

I'm gonna order the Mammoth P tonight and get that on the way. Cut out the seaweed juice and recharge as well.

They are due for a feeding tonight so I am gonna up the base nutes a bit and and increase the P and calmag and see if that helps pull them out. Light come on a few hours ago and I have not checked on them since I foliar fed before lights off early this AM. I will report back on it and let y'all know how the foilar did. I mixed it pretty stout.

Fingers crossed....:-?
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Hoping it all works out for you with them.
I have Top Dawg ONYCD, whichis a mix of chem 91 X chem 91 x chem D, or something along those lines.
And had Fuel, from Connoisseur seed, which was chem 91 x daywrecker diesel(which I think is the original best diesel), some sour dawg.
I would say pro-mix I don't recomend. But many use it , and have great results.
I have problems with getting fresh batches consistently. Would get a lot of a more sour ceder smelling peat, instead of how it should smell, like earthy peat smell.
So if you are using a very fine screened dolomite lime, should be fine.
Seaweed works well, but might build up some salts as well.
Best thing is, try your hardest not to over think, as it seems like you are very knowledgeable, and have thought of many differentscenario's, I'm sure.
In, my limited experience with Chem's , they don't like too much N, a good amount of easy steady P, and some K for sure.
Too much N will lead to very nice dark green leaves and bright green crystally,(that's not that bad sounding), but the bud's will be leafier and not quite as tasty or potent.
Just got to find the sweet spot in that.
Like the grow bags.
Hope I'm not babbling.... couple bong loads of Blue Orca Haze can really put one in lala land!
 
kona gold

kona gold

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DesertHydro said:
any pics of the issue itself?? my chem d cookies is showing variegation after running it for several generations with no signs. doesnt seem to affect anything at all but scared me at first. this is the worst. most just have a little bit here and there. apparently its common in chem genetics
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Chem D seems to be the freak of the family!
Hope it just continues to grow healthier.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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jonsnow399 said:
Maybe, I think he had the wrong politics for this place. Where's your buddy TTystikk? He hasn't posted since Jan 22.
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My buddy. Lol.

Don’t get it. I keep hearing uncle buck is responsible but I have had insulting arguments with him for a year and I have not even got a warning from riu.

When I upset rm3 I was denied the ability to respond to his thread and sunny messaged me to stop beating him up. Lasted 2 weeks I think.

That was like a year ago.

I bet Ttystick is here posing as a new member. Not sure yet.
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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MichiganMedGrower said:
My buddy. Lol.

Don’t get it. I keep hearing uncle buck is responsible but I have had insulting arguments with him for a year and I have not even got a warning from riu.

When I upset rm3 I was denied the ability to respond to his thread and sunny messaged me to stop beating him up. Lasted 2 weeks I think.

That was like a year ago.

I bet Ttystick is here posing as a new member. Not sure yet.
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I saw part of this drama, someone found some outside posts about him liking to tie people up. lol
 
Thefarmer12

Thefarmer12

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I have the legit 91 skunk va and yes you'll run into these issues she's a bit of a turd sometimes...

Huge things with Chem... put the plants on the peripheral.. she doesn't like a lot of light at all and does a lot better. Secondly is root space... the second she's rootbound she goes downhill. Up the cal/mag if necessary.

Lastly and most importantly ditch Advanced Nutrients cause they're garbage.


For real tho only skunk va himself has that 91 on point. Most other growers you just assume it's gonna look somewhat like shit but still throw out great potent flowers. It's her nature.
 
psychadelibud

psychadelibud

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kona gold said:
Hoping it all works out for you with them.
I have Top Dawg ONYCD, whichis a mix of chem 91 X chem 91 x chem D, or something along those lines.
And had Fuel, from Connoisseur seed, which was chem 91 x daywrecker diesel(which I think is the original best diesel), some sour dawg.
I would say pro-mix I don't recomend. But many use it , and have great results.
I have problems with getting fresh batches consistently. Would get a lot of a more sour ceder smelling peat, instead of how it should smell, like earthy peat smell.
So if you are using a very fine screened dolomite lime, should be fine.
Seaweed works well, but might build up some salts as well.
Best thing is, try your hardest not to over think, as it seems like you are very knowledgeable, and have thought of many differentscenario's, I'm sure.
In, my limited experience with Chem's , they don't like too much N, a good amount of easy steady P, and some K for sure.
Too much N will lead to very nice dark green leaves and bright green crystally,(that's not that bad sounding), but the bud's will be leafier and not quite as tasty or potent.
Just got to find the sweet spot in that.
Like the grow bags.
Hope I'm not babbling.... couple bong loads of Blue Orca Haze can really put one in lala land!
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Very good info Kona!

I bet that BOH is delicious!

I am looking in to purchasing the NL5 x Nevilles Haze... I know that will be the bees knees.

I remember back in the day running the NL5 x ssh and nl5 x ssh x skunk, those were the commercial strains we used to run back in the day. They are gone now, the Roadkill Skunk however is still around here and been killing it since the mid 70's...

Also a nice SSH floating around here too ;)
 
chiqifella

chiqifella

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Your personal poop? Or a certain processed chicken shit pellet?
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For the first year I managed a rabbitry(sic?) and used their turds exclusively. It remains the very best ends I've accomplished.
I raised a hundred chickens one year and composted their poop for another year and that matched my ends but with a bunch more fuss, way too much fuss, nasty dust etc.
Research found a packaged Botanicare chicken shit organically certified with calcium called Organicare, 80 bucks=50lbs delivered.
I couldnt continue to compost chicken shit, handling raw bunny poop with patient meds didnt sit well with me, so I bin using the bagged poop for many years and super happy. Pennies per feeding, no fuss, perfect measure, no waste. kudos Botanicare..
 
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