1st Grow - Hubbabubbasmelloscope in DWC & Water Farm

Budley Doright

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You have the rot :(. What are your res temps? That is what is causing your spotting. Are you still using hydroguard or have you switched to life? You could maybe try both, it can’t hurt. What is the specs on your air pump? Sorry for the amount of questions. The issue is lack of DO in the water, either due to temps or air pump. What’s happening to you is about when I decided to either stop running flooded systems or get a chiller of sorts, just way to much riding the edge. Maybe read a couple of other journals re water levels, etc. in DWC as well.
 

Homie Da Clown

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You have the rot :(. What are your res temps? That is what is causing your spotting. Are you still using hydroguard or have you switched to life? You could maybe try both, it can’t hurt. What is the specs on your air pump? Sorry for the amount of questions. The issue is lack of DO in the water, either due to temps or air pump. What’s happening to you is about when I decided to either stop running flooded systems or get a chiller of sorts, just way to much riding the edge. Maybe read a couple of other journals re water levels, etc. in DWC as well.
As you see in them pics with the waterfarms, I will not be running a chiller, but i didnt think about that drip ring keeping my big RW block wet, and if I put it on a timer I dont think I would have enough DO.... This will be interesting... But Budley, im gonna make it work but I prob bitch about it some lol..
I do that occasionally.. I bitched about my first dtw in coco run and it turned out to be 2 elbows of some shit Jemi Hendricks would of been proud to own...
 

Homie Da Clown

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I have some more pics here shortly... Finishing putting the lights up and running duct work... Being a one man crew, this shit can get tiresome.
 

Budley Doright

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As you see in them pics with the waterfarms, I will not be running a chiller, but i didnt think about that drip ring keeping my big RW block wet, and if I put it on a timer I dont think I would have enough DO.... This will be interesting... But Budley, im gonna make it work but I prob bitch about it some lol..
I do that occasionally.. I bitched about my first dtw in coco run and it turned out to be 2 elbows of some shit Jemi Hendricks would of been proud to own...
Like I said I’m not that familiar with WF’s but I’m thinking the majority of the root mass is contained in the clay so it should be getting lots of O2 but yup. The rockwool is a bitch when starting, to get the water cycles right. Once the roots are well established I have zero issues. I’m running two floods at the moment and the water just licks the bottom of the RW yet they are still very moist after 11 hours of no flooding, I do have them covered with clay balls as well. So are the roots actually always sitting in water with the WF or contained for the most part in the upper bucket? I do realize chillers are expensive for most people but like I said I was always walking the edge and when I did fall off the once I built one in a day lol. Well the underground thing took a bit longer lol, but the mechanical one was a day :).
Edit: just plugged in the underground loop yesterday after a year off doing the indoor thingA825A3A1-BBE5-4A74-97EC-F9E06FC438BB.jpeg
 

Homie Da Clown

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Like I said I’m not that familiar with WF’s but I’m thinking the majority of the root mass is contained in the clay so it should be getting lots of O2 but yup. The rockwool is a bitch when starting, to get the water cycles right. Once the roots are well established I have zero issues. I’m running two floods at the moment and the water just licks the bottom of the RW yet they are still very moist after 11 hours of no flooding, I do have them covered with clay balls as well. So are the roots actually always sitting in water with the WF or contained for the most part in the upper bucket? I do realize chillers are expensive for most people but like I said I was always walking the edge and when I did fall off the once I built one in a day lol. Well the underground thing took a bit longer lol, but the mechanical one was a day :).
Edit: just plugged in the underground loop yesterday after a year off doing the indoor thingView attachment 4108490
That is quite the setup you have there.. I bet that took some time getting the way you wanted.. Purrs like a kitten now huh?
 

cjsbabygirl313

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You have the rot :(. What are your res temps? That is what is causing your spotting. Are you still using hydroguard or have you switched to life? You could maybe try both, it can’t hurt. What is the specs on your air pump? Sorry for the amount of questions. The issue is lack of DO in the water, either due to temps or air pump. What’s happening to you is about when I decided to either stop running flooded systems or get a chiller of sorts, just way to much riding the edge. Maybe read a couple of other journals re water levels, etc. in DWC as well.
Res temps are ~68-71 (same as in the orher res) ... pump is 930gph ... switched to +life ... the roots are all white ... no smell in res ...
 
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Budley Doright

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Res temps are ~68-71 (same as in the orher res) ... pump is 930gph ... switched to +life ... the roots are all white ... no smell in res ...
Well you may not have a smell but you do have root issues and given the info I have no clue why :(. Again I would add both beanies and not that it helped but I was doubling the dose (math issue lol) when my rot hit. The guys should be able to sort this given their experience though.
 

cjsbabygirl313

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Well you may not have a smell but you do have root issues and given the info I have no clue why :(. Again I would add both beanies and not that it helped but I was doubling the dose (math issue lol) when my rot hit. The guys should be able to sort this given their experience though.
Definitely something going on - that plant was initially the better of the two, and now the other one simply dwarfs it!
 

Budley Doright

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Definitely something going on - that plant was initially the better of the two, and now the other one simply dwarfs it!
My theory is they were both getting to much water while growing out of the cube then you cut the water to both and at that point they both started to get better. Now only one is actually sitting in water and it’s basically drowning..... just a theory :(.
 

cjsbabygirl313

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Here’s tonight’s 3/20/18 update folks.

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#1 no improvement ... she’s still got increasing spots and is at a whopping height of 3.5” .. dont see any new root growth. Last night her water was at 350ppm and 6.1ph - tonight still at 350ppm and 6.3ph

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#2 has some additional spots on the leaves, Feeding last night was 480ppm and 6.0 ph and tonight she’s at she’s at 460ppm and 6.2ph ... 4.75” tall - however, seeing some browning in the center of her increasing root mass.

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Seriously thinking some calmag at this point couldnt *hurt* anything for either plant, and do I add some H2O2 to deal with the browning in the root mass of #2?
 
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