Nature vs Nurture

[KrazyAnneBanks]

If you have a mexican brick weed seed, and throw it into hydro, it comes out bomb.

if you have a cannabis up winner seed and throw it outside, it becomes trash.

so do genetics really matter?

 

[charface]

If you have a mexican brick weed seed, and throw it into hydro, it comes out bomb.

if you have a cannabis up winner seed and throw it outside, it becomes trash.

so do genetics really matter?

Imo genetics are everything.
If those brick seeds are coming out great then they were predisposed to as long as the environment was right.

I think genetics is #1

Edit, I guess i should say its half and half. You need both but if the genetics suck there really isn't much hope

 

[Bugeye]

If you have a mexican brick weed seed, and throw it into hydro, it comes out bomb.

if you have a cannabis up winner seed and throw it outside, it becomes trash.

so do genetics really matter?

Growing outside or in a greenhouse is not difficult to master, but you may have to approach it differently if you are getting poor results. Genetics are everything and the best weed is from carefully selected phenos.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I think in order of importance it goes

Environment-grower-genetics.

I say this because the same cut can come out all different ways depending on the first 2.



I am assuming decent genetics are used but they don’t have to be elite. Easier to get Higher potential out of mids and lower potential out of difficult elite stuff.

 

[CannaBruh]

The premise is flawed, skewed conclusion based on what?

Genetics are important, growers aren't needed...

 

[TurboTokes]

Grower plays a bigger role in the outcome in my opinion

 

[Sir72]

If you have a mexican brick weed seed, and throw it into hydro, it comes out bomb.

if you have a cannabis up winner seed and throw it outside, it becomes trash.

so do genetics really matter?

First part is true, second part is false! Like others said genetics are crucial

 

[Flowki]

If you have a mexican brick weed seed, and throw it into hydro, it comes out bomb.

if you have a cannabis up winner seed and throw it outside, it becomes trash.

so do genetics really matter?

You have an ex criminal who became a cop and a royal family member who became a criminal.

Does society really matter?.

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

I've grown mexican weed in hydro and I've grown top notch strains outdoor. Surprise surprise the top notch strains are always better...

But if you had it the other way around then cool on you.

 

[ganga gurl420]

I agree with the fellas. Genetics and skill level are everything.
Remember tho....not all strains are meant to be grown outside. 2 come to mind that won't do shit outdoors without using light dep. Williams wonder and rocklock.

 

[Dr. Who]

Many Mex brick weeds are simply poorly grown!

As far as any grower vs genetics vs environment thing...

The grower IS the environment! I mean , he controls it right? He does not control the genetic's....

So whats the difference in the Mex brick doing better? The grower controlled the environment (include feeding here) so the genetic "potential" of that brick....was achieved much closer!

Why did the "cannabis cup winner" seed do worse.... Could be a cpl of reasons!

#1: Grower failed to supply the proper environment to gain "potential," Originally used to deveolop the strain in.
#2: Seed breeder's quality dropped due to the unavailability of the EXACT matching mother father needed to produce the exact matching results from the original seed run!

Perfect examples to #2, would be AK 47 and Blue Berry....

This help?

 

[CannaBruh]

If the environment is right, what is needed from the grower? I agree with Doc that the grower can be or tame the environment however in an ideal (unlikely) scenario where environment is running all cylinders nature is gonna nature.

A good grower can do amazing things in less than stellar environment with less than stellar genetics... this is kind of a silly discussion, try to continuously improve always.

How does genetics NOT factor in when there's no THC to speak of in the line? How will environment/grower improve on the psychoactive without introducing traits from outside of the pool lacking them?

 

[Beachwalker]

If you have a mexican brick weed seed, and throw it into hydro, it comes out bomb.

if you have a cannabis up winner seed and throw it outside, it becomes trash.

so do genetics really matter?

This is not true, shit weed remain shit weed regardless how you grow it

 

[farmerfischer]

This is not true, ship weed remain shit weed regardless how you grow it

I disagree.. brick weed can be bad ass.. in most cases Mex weed isn't dryed and packaged properly making it shit.. I've grown out many brick weed seeds years ago that turned out great.. not all but some.. it's all about genetics and care..

 

[Beachwalker]

..some Mexican press is good weed. And Op is not talking about curing

I'm talking shit weed in general (genetics). I grew some out and I threw it all away because it was just as bad as it was when whoever brought it down the beach and lit it up and I wanted to prove the point.

I'm sure some ourdoor weed grown poorly can be taken in and improved but in general shit weed is shit weed, just my opinion

* I guess I'm voting genetics

 

[SilentQ]

The grower and plant are synergistic, in a sense.

Even with the worst genetics, an expert grower can make something happen where novice growers could not. However, the best grower is then at the limit of genetics.

 

[Beachwalker]

It would be great if this question was a poll..! I don't know if you can add it now but I think this would be really interesting result ..great thread, thanks!

 

[Dr. Who]

..some Mexican press is good weed. And Op is not talking about curing

I'm talking shit weed in general (genetics). I grew some out and I threw it all away because it was just as bad as it was when whoever brought it down the beach and lit it up and I wanted to prove the point.

I'm sure some ourdoor weed grown poorly can be taken in and improved but in general shit weed is shit weed, just my opinion

* I guess I'm voting genetics

Northern Mex Sativa's...Generally are not as good as the Southern Mex Sativa's.
There were exceptions to that rule.. Still are too.

The increased seed market has effected just what the lowland and mountain growers of Mex have to grow also...
The hows of what they do growing etc. is the biggest factor.

 

[NaturalFarmer]

Growers and environment are much easier to improve on than bad genetics are. I am sure there are some nice phenos in mexican brick seed however but nothing better then whats available with clone only strains.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I think weed that gets cropped in a field. Thrown in trucks. Stripped and bailed branches Seeds and all. Then compressed into a bail and stuffed into the back seat of a Volkswagen all under filthy conditions then cut up and stepped on across the country......

..........Still gets you high.

Must have come from some good seeds.