Can a 630 watt CMH match a 1000 watt HPS?

nizzaofficial

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I am hoping the de 630 watt CMH is the cats meow.

Some people are saying that it's better to do 2 x 315 CMH in a fixture, is there that much of a difference between the two set ups ?
2 x The Philips 315w bulbs are better than 1x DE 630w bulb because Philips put it into perspective with making the 315w bulb, the single ceramic arc tube will not fail in the one bulb where as in the DE 630w bulb one of the two ceramic arc tubes could possibly dull out or fail before the other one, but I think this may happen if you over use it by it’s sell by date, Philips are a better and bigger company than the rest that manufacture the 315w or DE 630w CMH bulbs, in the DE 630w the 2 x ceramic arc tubes are not really meant to be in a DE bulb but it does work, but the life span of the DE bulb is 8,000 to 10,000 MAX, where as the 315w bulbs from Philips last 20,000hrs or more, and the quality of the light is a better quality because of the gasses and halides inside the ceramic arcs from the Philips bulbs, but with that being said there is not much in it between them both for quality and yield of product, they are not a million miles apart! the DE 630w will deffenenly stand up to 2 x Philips 315w for quality and yield , and for the price of a DE 630w bulb it is a lot cheaper than buying 2 x Philips bulbs so you can change your DE bulb out every 12 to 14 months and it will work out roughly the same if you change your 2 x 315w bulbs out every 24 to 28 months,

Me personally I would advise using 2 to 3 x Philips 315w in a 3’ x 6’ or 2 to 3 x 630w DE CMH in a 4’ x 8’ for better penetration.

There is a market for both lights and they are both amazing because we are talking about CMH here the spectrum and UV on both the Philips 315w bulbs and the DE 630w bulbs are amazing.

The 630w DE CMH is closely matched to a DE Gavita 750w or a SE 1000w HPS

The DE 630w CMH gives off less heat and a better spectrum than the DE Gavita 750w and you will get a better quality product from your DE 630w CMH so it’s a no brainier really.
 
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digging

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Thank you Nizzaofficial for sharing your knowledge with us. I am buying 125 of 630 watt DE CMH, and because I need so many I am purchasing directly from China.

I really would have liked to go with the Greenbeams light fixture that utilizes the Phillips 315 watt bulb, but I would have needed to purchase over 200 of them.

If I had only needed a few of the 630 watt DE, I would have bought from you, as you really know your stuff and so willingly share your knowledge with us :)
 
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SunPlix CMH

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Thank you Nizzaofficial for sharing your knowledge with us. I am buying 125 of 630 watt DE CMH, and because I need so many I am purchasing directly from China.

I really would have liked to go with the Greenbeams light fixture that utilizes the Phillips 315 watt bulb, but I would have needed to purchase over 200 of them.

If I had only needed a few of the 630 watt DE, I would have bought from you, as you really know your stuff and so willingly share your knowledge with us :)
Here are our CMH 630W DE light and 630W (boost to 700W) dual 315W light.
With our ballasts, bulbs can be used much longer than any other CMH brands.FB_IMG_1515775250080.jpg CMH-630FDE 900X900-01.jpg
 

nizzaofficial

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Thank you Nizzaofficial for sharing your knowledge with us. I am buying 125 of 630 watt DE CMH, and because I need so many I am purchasing directly from China.

I really would have liked to go with the Greenbeams light fixture that utilizes the Phillips 315 watt bulb, but I would have needed to purchase over 200 of them.

If I had only needed a few of the 630 watt DE, I would have bought from you, as you really know your stuff and so willingly share your knowledge with us :)
No problems I am always more than happy to help, And I totally agree you going direct to a china Manufacturer because I was faced with this same problem at one time myself and it isn’t worth buying from a middle man if you can go direct that is what I do myself, and you will save a lot of money! Be carful who you deal with in China because I first purchased a lot of samples first from different manufacturers in China and most of them were crap, there was two Manufacturers in the end that are worth dealing with and they are very professional about it also, if you need anymore help please don’t hesitate to inbox me I am always happy to help.
 

nizzaofficial

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@nizzaofficial I know your successful just from seeing how the way you are on the boards. Very helpful and caring.

Wish you continued success. Your customers are fortunate to be doing business with you :)
Thank you I really appreciate it and it means a lot to me, I like to take pride in helping others it brings good karma good health and well being into my life and if Everyone was like this in the world then the world would be a better place.
 
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TacoMac

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Why is that?
The claim is that ceramic ballast are much more consistent in power delivery than other typical ballast. You don't get the power spikes at all and that extends the life of the bulb...in theory.

A friend and I gave it the old Pepsi challenge about 3 years ago. It didn't really make any credible difference. (He has the tools that measure light and after 4 grows each over a year and a half the CMH bulb was roughly .085% stronger at the end than the digital ballast bulb was. We never could prove one way or the other if that was down to the CMH ballast being better, or it was just the difference between the bulbs made in the manufacturing process.)
 

nizzaofficial

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You can get 315s for $200 to $400. Remote or built in.

315s from Sun System are around $350.

Where are you getting your numbers from?
Off there website and that doesn’t include shipping to the UK, so the price of two of there 315s with shipping you can buy two 630s from most CMH dealers including myself. Sunlpix sell an amazing 630w CMH for nearly the same price as a sunlight supply 315w CMH,
 

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SunPlix CMH

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If anyone outside USA wants to buy our CMH grow light, please email to [email protected] and advise which light and how many you need, as well as the postal code, we will reply you with a quote. You will love our light as other customers did.
 

SunPlix CMH

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Great. Nice plug.

But that doesn't change the fact that you stated that a pair of Sun System 315s would cost somebody $1200. That is not true. Not even close. They cost half that.

So again, I'm going to ask you, where are you getting these numbers from?
Did I say that?
 

Tim1987

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Did I say that?
@SunPlix CMH
I'm so fucking tired of seeing your name around the place. Cheating the sites rules, and spreading your garbage advertising about your overly priced, no better than any other cmh product, bullshit fuken light.
Go to the advertising section like you're supposed to. You're like a damn telemarketer. You only ever talk about your own shitty, overly priced, not better than anything else, rubbish, crappy sunplix lights.
You're one of the worst trolls here. Give the consumer a little room to breathe. You trolling piece of shit.
How much do you pay RIU to advertise your product? Bet you're giving free blowjobs all round. Only way you could be getting away with what you're doing.

The way you're advertising .makes you, and your fuken company look no better than the piece of shit on the bottom of someone's shoe.

Yours truly
Go fuck yourself.




I'm sorry to the OP too. I didn't mean to ruin the thread. But I got triggered seeing sunplix posting. I see them at least 6 times a day, spreading their gospel. They couldn't give two shits about you, or me, or others.
They don't respect the other advertisers who are doing the right thing here either.
:peace:
 
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Johnny Lawrence

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Off there website and that doesn’t include shipping to the UK, so the price of two of there 315s with shipping you can buy two 630s from most CMH dealers including myself. Sunlpix sell an amazing 630w CMH for nearly the same price as a sunlight supply 315w CMH,
The majority of the people that post here are not in the UK. Apples should always be compared to apples.
 
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