A Guide To Colloidal Silver

whitebb2727

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Smaller particles with lower V/mA correct?
Correct.
Well it still is sitting at 0ppm and I know the meter works... Furthermore, I have no buildup.. . So I switched tactics lololol
Cs will not ever show ppms. It will always read zero. No way to check.

Yes I've seen batteries used. Listen or don't. I went through all the trial and error and learned what works.

Use lower voltage and current for smaller particles.
Application plays a role. Start applying daily at flip and continue for a couple weeks. Some strains don't throw nanners easy. It works better on a whole plant than a branch.
 

whitebb2727

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Yes I took 9 clones and veged out 6 of them for harvesting big plants. 2 of them I tried to make polen from and 1 didn't root. I don't need a lot of seeds 20 or 30 viable seeds a year will be more than enough for me. So I decided to go with mini hermies
Collect the pollen and let it dry. Freeze it in several little folded pieces of paper and use one when you need it.
 

Hurricane09

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It takes a while - I think it takes me at least 6 hours to get to 30ppm - maybe it's not reading the silver, when I get that reading - not sure. for the first 2 hours you'll get maybe a 1 or 2 reading on the ppm meter, and things don't really start kicking into gear until I get about a 15 reading or so. Like I say, not sure if its reading the silver or something else, but that's the way it's happened for me. I've read you can add things to the water to make it more conductive but I haven't tried, this seems to work.

Do you keep spraying after they show balls @whitebb2727? All 3 of mine have them, and I've kept spraying 2/3 times a day. The sacs have very little in them, nothing I can see anyway, but I've read that you expect that in this process with some plants. I've been harvesting individual balls as they look ready to pop - not sure if I should be doing this or harvesting the whole ball bud?
 

whitebb2727

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It takes a while - I think it takes me at least 6 hours to get to 30ppm - maybe it's not reading the silver, when I get that reading - not sure. for the first 2 hours you'll get maybe a 1 or 2 reading on the ppm meter, and things don't really start kicking into gear until I get about a 15 reading or so. Like I say, not sure if its reading the silver or something else, but that's the way it's happened for me. I've read you can add things to the water to make it more conductive but I haven't tried, this seems to work.

Do you keep spraying after they show balls @whitebb2727? All 3 of mine have them, and I've kept spraying 2/3 times a day. The sacs have very little in them, nothing I can see anyway, but I've read that you expect that in this process with some plants. I've been harvesting individual balls as they look ready to pop - not sure if I should be doing this or harvesting the whole ball bud?
No. Once the balls start forming I quit. I usually spray right at flip and by the time they are in flower good they are full of pollen.

It's not the cs showing ppms. You have to have very expensive equipment to test cs.

The easiest way is a laser pointer. It will show the particles suspended. I dont even check it.

I know that 12-24 hours is good enough. I look for an off brown to amber color of water.


An air stone can be added to agitate the water but is not needed.
 

Hurricane09

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This (from what i read) is good even has some reviews on amazon for this purpose. i planned on trying it this year. Also what do you use for your silver? i assume you don't just buy a bar. sorry if asked already https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D281XR0/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3EH4JABBZ9W0Q
I just bought rods like this;
https://www.amazon.com/Colloidal-Silver-Generator-LifeForce-Devices/dp/B007H3TJFK/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1525271360&sr=8-2&keywords=9999+silver
 

blake9999

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It's been a Month and I think I finally see balls on the Fem I have been spraying. My Loupe came in the mail yesterday ( not a moment too soon) and I checked this morning. I guess either these GDP Autos are a little tough to turn or the few days of rain washed all the silver off. It's been rain free for about two weeks. Problem is now we have 60% chance of rain next two days so I hope they don't open yet. One of the plants to the left has a Very strong odor to it so I may concentrate on that one for breeding. It also has the prominent purple color showing ( although I would say it's almost Black). I have a clean paint brush and tweezer ready for when they start to pop open. Wish me luck. Here's a pic of one of them. They about 4 weeks into flowering.
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blake9999

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O.K. Solved the problem with the upcomming rain. The neighbors had a 7 gallon bucket i 'borrowed' until the rain passes. used it to cover the pollinating plant. Fit perfictally. Hopefully it will be ready to breed in a few days after the rain passes. We haven't had rain in a few weeks so we need it. Will keep you updated on my results. bongsmilie
 

EverythingsHazy

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What voltage are you using?

It wont show ppms. Use a laser pointer to see the particles. You want an amber color.

Low voltage around 3-6 volt cell phone chargers work the best.

You want to let it run 12-24 hours.
You actually want it to be clear, but show the laser beam due to the microscopic particles. It usually does show some PPM reading, but it isn't the most accurate method for measurement.Also, if your generator is built loike the one described in the OP, you likely won't have to go past 15hrs. Pushing to get a darker color is counterproductive.
What does a Colloidal Silver generator look like / How do I make my own:
Colloidal Silver generators can be either bought, or made. If you decide to buy one, aim for the one with the lowest possible voltage between (5-30v) and try to stay under 1000mA. The weaker current will help create smaller particles even though it takes a bit longer (only hours so it doesn't matter).
Q&A / Troubleshooting:
Q: Why is my Colloidal Silver amber/yellow/grey colored?
A: The silver particles are slightly larger than they would be in a clear solution. They can still work for cannabis reversal, but I don't recommend ingesting the stuff. Amber/yellow is the first color you should notice. As it begins to get darker, or greyer, that means the the particles are larger and larger. The plant above was reversed with only amber Colloidal Silver as a test and it worked fine.

Q: How do I fix that color problem?
A: Add an air pump and an air stone to your generator jar, and clean the wires more often (every 30min, or when you see buildup forming). Discoloration on the wires (esp the negative electrode turning dark) is fine and expected, but if you leave it for too long you will notice that more and more silver particles build up on the negative electrode and start breaking off and floating around your mixture causing it to be cloudy and lower quality.
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It's been a Month and I think I finally see balls on the Fem I have been spraying. My Loupe came in the mail yesterday ( not a moment too soon) and I checked this morning. I guess either these GDP Autos are a little tough to turn or the few days of rain washed all the silver off. It's been rain free for about two weeks. Problem is now we have 60% chance of rain next two days so I hope they don't open yet. One of the plants to the left has a Very strong odor to it so I may concentrate on that one for breeding. It also has the prominent purple color showing ( although I would say it's almost Black). I have a clean paint brush and tweezer ready for when they start to pop open. Wish me luck. Here's a pic of one of them. They about 4 weeks into flowering.
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The silver doesn't have to build up on the surface of the plant, in order to work. What does the actual work, are the silver particles that are small enough to penetrate into the plant's tissues. Ideally, you would have no buildup on the plant's surface, but if done correctly, a small amount of silver on the plant won't cause a problem.

Also, some strains tend to be much more resistant to flipping than others. I consider this a good thing, since it may be indicative of high ethylene production.
 

whitebb2727

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You actually want it to be clear, but show the laser beam due to the microscopic particles. It usually does show some PPM reading, but it isn't the most accurate method for measurement.Also, if your generator is built loike the one described in the OP, you likely won't have to go past 15hrs. Pushing to get a darker color is counterproductive.



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The silver doesn't have to build up on the surface of the plant, in order to work. What does the actual work, are the silver particles that are small enough to penetrate into the plant's tissues. Ideally, you would have no buildup on the plant's surface, but if done correctly, a small amount of silver on the plant won't cause a problem.

Also, some strains tend to be much more resistant to flipping than others. I consider this a good thing, since it may be indicative of high ethylene production.
No. You want an Amber color.

Low concentrations safe for consuming will be clear. It doesn't have a lot of silver in the suspension. As you get more silver the color starts to change. When it gets an Amber hue it is good to go. You want to be able to see through it but have an Amber color.
 
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blake9999

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No. You want an Amber color.

Low concentrations safe for consuming will be clear. It doesn't have a lot of silver in the suspension. As you get more silver the color starts to change. When it gets an Amber hue it is good to go. You want to be able to see through it but have an Amber color.
Mine has A amber color to it, so I guess everything went well. I used a iPhone charger, I think they around 5 volts, and let it run eight to ten hours between two days. Laser has a bright line shining through it.
 

whitebb2727

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The color also has to do with the number of silver ions vs actual silver particles from what I've read.

If you are drinking it as a health supplement then you would want it clear.

For seed making the amber color works the best I've found.
 

EverythingsHazy

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The color also has to do with the number of silver ions vs actual silver particles from what I've read.

If you are drinking it as a health supplement then you would want it clear.

For seed making the amber color works the best I've found.
Why would it work better for ingestion but worse for seed making? The point of both, is to have the smallest silver particles absorb into the cells, be it a human or a plant.
 

whitebb2727

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Why would it work better for ingestion but worse for seed making? The point of both, is to have the smallest silver particles absorb into the cells, be it a human or a plant.
Humans and plants are different. The goal for humans and plants is different.


I'm just saying I've tried it clear and other colors. Amber works the best.

Can you post some pics of plants you sprayed? I would like to see your cs generator and how well your process works on plants. How many pollen sacs show up.
 
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