Fan Leaf in need of diagnosis.

Master_Tabi

Master_Tabi

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Its mostly the undergrowth this one was the worst. There's another very old leaf with only 3 parts if you know what I mean. I'll get a full birds eye view of the tree after my day job tomr. So far only 2 with the yellow effects, however I am noticing some of the tips of the leaves getting a bit dry and starting to brown.
 
Master_Tabi

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I just read on another post that it could be a mobile nutrient that is deficient, causing the bottom leaves or in this case this fan that as blocked off by newer growth to be fed on. Still looking into it, stay tuned for a Birds eye view tomr please.
 
Olive Drab Green

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Mg/P/K def or lockout. Either it’s underfed those three—mostly P and Mg—or you are slightly overwatering and leaching these highly mobile nutrients from the soil, or locking them out because the roots are too wet. The latter is more likely.
 
Master_Tabi

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Olive Drab Green said:
Mg/P/K def or lockout. Either it’s underfed those three—mostly P and Mg—or you are slightly overwatering and leaching these highly mobile nutrients from the soil, or locking them out because the roots are too wet. The latter is more likely.
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I don't use any fertilizer so would it be possible that the plant has taken out most of the P and Mg from the soil? Mind you it has been in this pot from seed no germination. I water a gallon then have a meter to see when the soil isn't wet anymore. Any recommendations on organic P and Mg home style fertz? I've been reading about banana peel tea for P but don't recall anything about Mg.
 
Olive Drab Green

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[QUOTE="Master_Tabi, post: 14242350, member: 990556"]I don't use any fertilizer so would it be possible that the plant has taken out most of the P and Mg from the soil? Mind you it has been in this pot from seed no germination. I water a gallon then have a meter to see when the soil isn't wet anymore. Any recommendations on organic P and Mg home style fertz? I've been reading about banana peel tea for P but don't recall anything about Mg.[/QUOTE]
It’s definitely in need of feeding. That’s your problem, then.

I recommend getting actual nutrients. I use the Roots Organics Dry Nutrients Player Pack and 5mL Master Pack. The Dry Nutrients Player Pack was only ~$90 and will last a long time.

Otherwise, Epsom Salts for CalMag.

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Master_Tabi

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Olive Drab Green said:
[QUOTE="Master_Tabi, post: 14242350, member: 990556"]I don't use any fertilizer so would it be possible that the plant has taken out most of the P and Mg from the soil? Mind you it has been in this pot from seed no germination. I water a gallon then have a meter to see when the soil isn't wet anymore. Any recommendations on organic P and Mg home style fertz? I've been reading about banana peel tea for P but don't recall anything about Mg.
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It’s definitely in need of feeding. That’s your problem, then.

I recommend getting actual nutrients. I use the Roots Organics Dry Nutrients Player Pack and 5mL Master Pack. The Dry Nutrients Player Pack was only ~$90 and will last a long time.

Otherwise, Epsom Salts for CalMag.

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I'm going to look into some food for it then, thanks for the advice.
 
Olive Drab Green

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NaturalFarmer said:
Plant looks fine. You should get a bottle of fish hydrolysate to feed but its not deficient yet.
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“Not deficient” would imply there are no visible signs of a deficiency, and there are. It’s an early deficiency, but it’s a deficiency, and it’s not so much an N deficiency.
 
NaturalFarmer

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The plant will eat itself of leaves that fail to get light instead of maintaining them without benefit. Plants look fine to me. Feed them now or they may not in a week.
 
Olive Drab Green

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NaturalFarmer said:
The plant will eat itself of leaves that fail to get light instead of maintaining them without benefit. Plants look fine to me. Feed them now or they may not in a week.
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Plants don’t just drop leaves that don’t get light. My plant has plenty of foliage that’ve been occluded, yet it hasn’t dropped any leaves. He said he hasn’t fed it. It’s a deficiency. I’m not trying to be rude, just saying.
 
Master_Tabi

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Had a purple stem issue with it 3 weeks ago added worm castings, compost, as well as aluminum sulfate the problem subsided. Now it looks like its going to the leaves, adding bone meal and Epsom salt with more castings possibly do the banana tea like I mentioned tomr since she got water yesterday.

Youre thinking more N I added the worm castings should be good for now.

Thanks again for looking in on it.

In fact I am feeding just all cheap homemade or simple fertz, my bad on that incorrect information.
 
NaturalFarmer

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You added Aluminum sulfate for what reason? Sorry but don't do that again please. If you want to drop your pH add a handful of peat.

Worm casting are not high in N (or any nutrient for that matter) but if you can get some soybean meal you will be good til harvest. scratch a 1/2 cup into the soil and let it break down. 7-2-2. Cannabis loves it.
 
Master_Tabi

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My soil was upper 7's so it was locking out some nutes, added a little aluminum sulfate to drop it down. Will look into soybean meal sounds like exactly what I'm looking for!

Peat will be my first choice from now on, I didn't do much research to find the aluminum sulfate solution.
 
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