3 60 watt led full spectrum enough?

[CobKits]

do this

1. go to home depot.
2. walk past the overpriced 9W purple "full spectrum" bulbs
3. buy a 4 pack of 15W ("100W equivalent") daylight bulbs for $13.50
4. buy a 4 pack of soft white bulbs in the same size, $13.50

now you have 120 real watts of white light (aka full spectrum, for real) that can cover a 2x2 nicely and grow yourself a plant, total investment $27. if your space is smaller you can use less bulbs and you can use more of the daylight for veg and more o the softwhite for flower if you wish

if you feel adventurous you can pop the covers off of them for extra light but then they wont be water resistant if that matters

 

[CobKits]

these are also a good investment at $2 each and you can plug the bulbs right into a powerstrip

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Outlet-to-Socket-Light-Plug-White-R52-00061-00W/100170446

 

[DirtyDogs446]

Im trying to figure out who youre going to listen too. The guys at the hardware store, whom don't grow weed. Or the people on a forum dedicated to growing weed. Go ahead and listen to the people at the hardware store and use them to grow. Post back after your harvest so we can see how much you didn't grow. No offense but if you're not going to take the advice you're given, then why post at all.

Lol I'll listen to y'all I just was not sure if y'all were looking at something different. Could one of you please go on Amazon and pick out normal sized whatever bulbs that you feel would be efficient for me please thank you for all your experience this is my other set up 3 300 watt less and one 1000 watt led

 

[DirtyDogs446]

Wow that is amazing now will that cover veg. And flowering they are lowryder autos

 

[DirtyDogs446]

One more question now that my other plants flowered do I continue using all three F2F products the trio pack or just the tiger bloom ? There is grow big,big bloom and tiger bloom

 

[DirtyDogs446]

One more question do these look healthy except foe the calcium deficiency which I got cal mag

 

[nfhiggs]

[QUOTE="1212ham, post: 14246115, QUOTE]
I just went to ace hardware and this guy also told me that it is the watts used to power it NOT how many watts you are getting you must be looking at the wrong bulb because two people from stores have told me the same thing these are them

The people from the stores are idiots. 9 watts is 9 watts PERIOD. The light it produces is similar to the light output of an old style incandescent 60W bulb. But that means NOTHING when it come to growing, because incandescent bulbs are not used for growing.

 

[skoomd]

One more question now that my other plants flowered do I continue using all three F2F products the trio pack or just the tiger bloom ? There is grow big,big bloom and tiger bloom

Yes you use all 3 products to harvest. Just mix up the ratios as you need more PK in flower than N.

Btw, you need to level those led panels out LOL. Having them all wonkey like that just fucks up the light spread royally.

What is your ph runoff and ph going in?

 

[CobKits]

One more question do these look healthy except foe the calcium deficiency which I got cal mag

you'll love white light much easier to diagnose deficiencies when you can see them

 

[skoomd]

you'll love white light much easier to diagnose deficiencies when you can see them

No kidding. It's tough to see deficiencies and stuff under blurple and even an hps bulb (especially an older one, they loose their blue over time). Gotta look at them every once and a while lights off with a CFL bulb or a camera with flash. I'm loving white so far. Been using blurples for too long, it's a nice change.

 

[DirtyDogs446]

Yes you use all 3 products to harvest. Just mix up the ratios as you need more PK in flower than N.

Btw, you need to level those led panels out LOL. Having them all wonkey like that just fucks up the light spread royally.

What is your ph runoff and ph going in?

Going in it's 6.3 today when I go to water I'll check the run off. I have them like that because it seems like the spread sucks on them period. When I don't have them like that it does not five all the plants good light. When I have it this way my light meter shows alot more even results at the tops and we will day the next level down

 

[DirtyDogs446]

No kidding. It's tough to see deficiencies and stuff under blurple and even an hps bulb (especially an older one, they loose their blue over time). Gotta look at them every once and a while lights off with a CFL bulb or a camera with flash. I'm loving white so far. Been using blurples for too long, it's a nice change.

you'll love white light much easier to diagnose deficiencies when you can see them

How do they look you feel any thoughts? It's my first grow

 

[skoomd]

Going in it's 6.3 today when I go to water I'll check the run off. I have them like that because it seems like the spread sucks on them period. When I don't have them like that it does not five all the plants good light. When I have it this way my light meter shows alot more even results at the tops and we will day the next level down

Okay cool. If you raised them to so that they are just higher off all the plants and make it flat and even i think you'd be surprised though.

They look hungry to me. Not just cal/mag. I would up your nutes but first what is your ph and ppm runoff? Before upping the nutes, fix those first.

 

[DirtyDogs446]

I go on Amazon to look for lights like that and most are LED could you be more specific about them
Are they cfls? Could you look on Amazon and send me a link to the right stuff thank you

 

[skoomd]

I go on Amazon to look for lights like that and most are LED could you be more specific about them
Are they cfls? Could you look on Amazon and send me a link to the right stuff thank you

Which lights?

 

[DirtyDogs446]

Okay cool. If you raised them to so that they are just higher off all the plants and make it flat and even i think you'd be surprised though.

They look hungry to me. Not just cal/mag. I would up your nutes but first what is your ph and ppm runoff? Before upping the nutes, fix those first.

Ok when you say ppm what's that mean I have a meter that goes into the soil it's reading high but it seems like junk I'll check the oh today and let you know if it's high to I just water with lower ph

 

[DirtyDogs446]

Which lights?

If you look up in this convo where I believe cobkits gives me a list of lights from home depot

 

[skoomd]

Ok when you say ppm what's that mean I have a meter that goes into the soil it's reading high but it seems like junk I'll check the oh today and let you know if it's high to I just water with lower ph

Like a soil ph meter? Those are useless. Get a PH pen, even a cheap one and some calibration solution off amazon. Check your input and runoff ph. And ppm is measured with a tds/ppm meter you can get for the price of a cheap meter. Test runoff ph and see if it's high. And if you arent getting 20-30% runoff each watering already, you should be.

 

[DirtyDogs446]

Like a soil ph meter? Those are useless. Get a PH pen, even a cheap one and some calibration solution off amazon. Check your input and runoff ph. And ppm is measured with a tds/ppm meter you can get for the price of a cheap meter. Test runoff ph and see if it's high. And if you arent getting 20-30% runoff each watering already, you should be.

Ok I was getting the run off in the beginning but I don't now so I should increase the watering then

 

[DirtyDogs446]

So how many of these do I need and what stages will it cover for growth