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sourgummy

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So my Jelly pie is female, pretty stoked. Threw out some indifferentiated growth, fooled me, but glad to see her poppin pistils. Ok so now I have that random pollen from the Jelly pie male I collected. Collected it on 2/12 this year. I just put that ziploc gallon baggie over a branch and smacked a few times. So its coated with pollen and a lot at the bottom of the bag, but including some pollen sacs plant matter, like the whole sacs lol. Just been stored in the fridge never taken out. You guys think its worth the effort?
 
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Badfishy1

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sourgummy said:
So my Jelly pie is female, pretty stoked. Threw out some indifferentiated growth, fooled me, but glad to see her poppin pistils. Ok so now I have that random pollen from the Jelly pie male I collected. Collected it on 2/12 this year. I just put that ziploc gallon baggie over a branch and smacked a few times. So its coated with pollen and a lot at the bottom of the bag, but including some pollen sacs plant matter, like the whole sacs lol. Just been stored in the fridge never taken out. You guys think its worth the effort?
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I’m no expert, but what do you have to lose besides a couple nugs you try to nut?
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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NugHeuser said:
Yeah possibly just some unlucky seeds, hard telling this early.
I don't have any other strains to compare to as far as speed of growth since these were popped alone, but they're growing. I want to say maybe 6 days now and starting on their first true set of leaves, got one stretching for the sky otherwise too early to tell with mine.
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Yeah my guess just bad seeds. Not uncommon but with me losing pretty much everything and starting over. Jus need to get some strains going for moms. Then I'll start back with the testers, once I'm up n running again. I mean they are testers. But I have other GPS gear going. That I know I'm able to count on. I'm sure there's a keeper in the other 5 beans of each pack. I still have left. Almost every pack I've popped from here I've found at least one worth running again.
 
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NugHeuser

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whytewidow said:
Yeah my guess just bad seeds. Not uncommon but with me losing pretty much everything and starting over. Jus need to get some strains going for moms. Then I'll start back with the testers, once I'm up n running again. I mean they are testers. But I have other GPS gear going. That I know I'm able to count on. I'm sure there's a keeper in the other 5 beans of each pack. I still have left. Almost every pack I've popped from here I've found at least one worth running again.
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Right, perfectly understandable. I'm in the same boat with the s1's. Should've had a tent full and now have 3 plants, day 23 of flower though and one still hasn't started flowering but is 2.5 to 3 ft tall. I've been debating on just flipping everything in veg to flower instead of waiting till the 21st, but we'll see.
 
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growslut

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@whytewidow, I have had some problems with seedlings damping off in the past. I found a simple cure--chamomile tea. Let the tea cool, then spray the stems of the seedlings--not the leaves. The chamomile has sulfur which is a fungicide and prevents damping off. I haven't lost any seedling since using this method. The first time I used it, the seedlings were bent over, and a few hours later they had perked back up again. It sounds like that might be the issue going on. Give it a try and see it it helps

Where did you get your Samsung strips? How much? how are they powered? do you plug each strip in individually?
 
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whytewidow

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NugHeuser said:
Right, perfectly understandable. I'm in the same boat with the s1's. Should've had a tent full and now have 3 plants, day 23 of flower though and one still hasn't started flowering but is 2.5 to 3 ft tall. I've been debating on just flipping everything in veg to flower instead of waiting till the 21st, but we'll see.
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That's about right where I'm at right now. 3 in flower about 25ish days. Should be ready to harvest 3-4 right now with 3-4 to put back. Instead of 3 full tents and a full baby cab. I'm setting on 1/8th tank lol
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Amos Otis said:
Seedlings don't need captured humidity, as, unlike a clone, they have enough root to get needed moisture from the medium.
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The bag gets pulled when they break soil. The only reason for the bag is I don't have room to put a dome or lid. I've done the samething for 10 years. There is a such thing as a bad seed. I didn't ask for replacements. Everything else is fine. There isn't anything special to these strains that they have to germed a certain way. I pop beans that are 20+ years old. My method works great. Normally have 100% ratio if the seed cracks and starts a taproot. The seeds were dark and tiger striped. But sometimes nature takes over no matter what you do. They just weren' meant to be. Once my jelly pie clones and couple other clones root. And i can take some more cuts, I'll pop the rest of the pebble pushers and Sundae Stallions.
 
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whytewidow

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growslut said:
@whytewidow, I have had some problems with seedlings damping off in the past. I found a simple cure--chamomile tea. Let the tea cool, then spray the stems of the seedlings--not the leaves. The chamomile has sulfur which is a fungicide and prevents damping off. I haven't lost any seedling since using this method. The first time I used it, the seedlings were bent over, and a few hours later they had perked back up again. It sounds like that might be the issue going on. Give it a try and see it it helps

Where did you get your Samsung strips? How much? how are they powered? do you plug each strip in individually?
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Where did you find the recipe for it? Or the info for it?

I got my samsungs from arrow.com they were cheap. I got them before everyone started buying them. I paid 8.77 a strip. Free shipping. Now they are 30 bucks i think. But I run the single rows. 560mm length jus under 2 foot. 3000k Ten on a HLG320H-24 maxed out 335 watts. But I don' push them that hard. I run about 75% then the reds I had buddy make them for he owns a computer repair shop. I bought individual diodes of he photo red and deep red. He alternated them. On a copper pcb strip. And then I bought smaller strips from a distributor on eBay that I've dealt with for awhile now. They are 96 diodes strips dual row. Lm561c diodes. In 2700k. I paid 14.99 each free shipping. They are now 19.99 each. 5 of them running on a Hlg-240H-24 at about 75% max out at like 255ish I think. I can' remember the exact wattage. And the reds I have 4 strips running on a HLG-120H-24 at 75% roughly. I can max the entire tent out at about 725 watts if I wanted. But that's over kill, I'm roughly running 550 watts now.. I have it all controlled on my phone. With fans and all. I can turn off/on either the reds, or the Samsung single rows, or the dual rows. Or turn off/on any fan. Through sonoff switches. I can control all my tents and baby cab anywhere as long as my phone has service or Wi-Fi. Which is nice. I can monitor my temp and humidity. Turn on dehumidifier if need be. Or more fans. Or less.
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Badfishy1

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Chamomile tea recipe/ directions are typically found on the packaging for the tea... :p just go to grocery store and take your pick... (chamomile is just a type of tea bud)
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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Gu~ said:
Maybe you should try taking the bag off
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I bought 3+ packs of everything I will let ya know. I have no worries though if they started out fine should have kept going fine imo.

whytewidow said:
The bag gets pulled when they break soil. The only reason for the bag is I don't have room to put a dome or lid. I've done the samething for 10 years. There is a such thing as a bad seed. I didn't ask for replacements. Everything else is fine. There isn't anything special to these strains that they have to germed a certain way. I pop beans that are 20+ years old. My method works great. Normally have 100% ratio if the seed cracks and starts a taproot. The seeds were dark and tiger striped. But sometimes nature takes over no matter what you do. They just weren' meant to be. Once my jelly pie clones and couple other clones root. And i can take some more cuts, I'll pop the rest of the pebble pushers and Sundae Stallions.
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If you have trouble with the time it takes to keep top layer of soil moist for clones or seeds put an inch or two thick layer in bottom of starting pot (fabric pots are best cheapest are on greenhousemegastore.com) of perlite. Put them in some sort of pan, tub, or I use 2x4's to build to size and use pond liner because I do big runs and put about half inch of water in. Water the top in beginning (not too much!) and let capillary action do its magic. Top will never dry out. Capillary mats work great as does an auto watering system I don't want to share right now for security reasons, though wish I could.
 
Little Dog

Little Dog

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vertnugs said:
I got mine put together with the pot installed for dimming.I'm no led guru,but i think piece by piece is where it's at as it gives you much more options than going with a prebuilt out the gate like i did.I'd rather have 6 or 8 boards being drivin by the same wattage.

Honestly i think there are much better ways to go than the 600h for your space.

Every thing and any thing ya want to learn is right here at RIU.
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Lurpin said:
What kind of ventilation you got going on in your room? Get rid of all the 90 degree angles in your ducting for better air flow. Maybe get a bigger duct fan. Do you have ventilation separate from your lights ventilation? Depending on the time of year and where you live you can suck cool fresh filtered air into without the use of Ac. There are lots we could come up with for you. Maybe someone has some others?

Also I always ran bigger then 6 inch ducts. 8 inch always worked best for me. Then your fans can move more volume.

Just wanted to add one more thing. You can up the size of your ducting without getting new hoods. They make ducting adaptors that you can get at home depot.
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Man, I've done or in the process of doing all those things except going from 6 to 8 inch ducts on my lights. But my fan moves the air straight thru pretty good. My room is only a 10 X 10. It's not a long run for the air to travel. I'm waiting on a can fan and filter to set up with a temp sensor to exhaust the hot air from room when it gets to high and my AC stops cycling. Lights have separate fan and duct. I just upgraded to a larger chiller. But it runs less than the old one did. Gonna move it out of room, or vent the heat out thru a separate duct of its own. Probably outside room. I run at night and the outside night time temps would work well with a whole room exhaust fan. I'm sure that would help.

I'm still thinking I might change the lights to led. Just want to do it the right way, if I do. I checked some today on a couple of DIY builds. I can do it. I'm gonna contact a seller or two next week. And probably try to put something together. #LrnLvGrow said incorporate the old hoods, and use the same fan and ductwork to help keep'em cool. Great idea!

Thank you, and everyone else who commented. The comments and inputs did help, definitely!
 
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growslut

growslut

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whytewidow said:
Where did you find the recipe for it? Or the info for it?

I got my samsungs from arrow.com they were cheap. I got them before everyone started buying them. I paid 8.77 a strip. Free shipping. Now they are 30 bucks i think. But I run the single rows. 560mm length jus under 2 foot. 3000k Ten on a HLG320H-24 maxed out 335 watts. But I don' push them that hard. I run about 75% then the reds I had buddy make them for he owns a computer repair shop. I bought individual diodes of he photo red and deep red. He alternated them. On a copper pcb strip. And then I bought smaller strips from a distributor on eBay that I've dealt with for awhile now. They are 96 diodes strips dual row. Lm561c diodes. In 2700k. I paid 14.99 each free shipping. They are now 19.99 each. 5 of them running on a Hlg-240H-24 at about 75% max out at like 255ish I think. I can' remember the exact wattage. And the reds I have 4 strips running on a HLG-120H-24 at 75% roughly. I can max the entire tent out at about 725 watts if I wanted. But that's over kill, I'm roughly running 550 watts now.. I have it all controlled on my phone. With fans and all. I can turn off/on either the reds, or the Samsung single rows, or the dual rows. Or turn off/on any fan. Through sonoff switches. I can control all my tents and baby cab anywhere as long as my phone has service or Wi-Fi. Which is nice. I can monitor my temp and humidity. Turn on dehumidifier if need be. Or more fans. Or less.
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Wow! Those lights are impressive! You must get great coverage! :clap:

Thanks for all the info. I'd like to add some strips to my set up but I will have to wait until the technology is plug-n-play

On the camomile, I remember reading it many places. Cinnamon and camomile are common natural treatments. I was skeptical, then I read on some forum someone with first-hand experience who said that cinnamon does not work but camomile does. That convinced me to give it a shot. Its been working for me since and I haven't lost a single seed that has sprouted

Here is a link explaining the chamomile method https://deeprootsathome.com/prevent-damping-off-in-seedlingsuse-chamomile-tea/
 
Big Green Thumb

Big Green Thumb

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Little Dog said:
Man, I've done or in the process of doing all those things except going from 6 to 8 inch ducts on my lights. But my fan moves the air straight thru pretty good. My room is only a 10 X 10. It's not a long run for the air to travel. I'm waiting on a can fan and filter to set up with a temp sensor to exhaust the hot air from room when it gets to high and my AC stops cycling. Lights have separate fan and duct. I just upgraded to a larger chiller. But it runs less than the old one did. Gonna move it out of room, or vent the heat out thru a separate duct of its own. Probably outside room. I run at night and the outside night time temps would work well with a whole room exhaust fan. I'm sure that would help.

I'm still thinking I might change the lights to led. Just want to do it the right way, if I do. I checked some today on a couple of DIY builds. I can do it. I'm gonna contact a seller or two next week. And probably try to put something together. #LrnLvGrow said incorporate the old hoods, and use the same fan and ductwork to help keep'em cool. Great idea!

Thank you, and everyone else who commented. The comments and inputs did help, definitely!
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Here is my version of led strips lighting a 5x5 tent. Currently there are 45 2' strips and 16 4' strips. The tent has upwards of 2k watts if ever needed. Last grow I I'd them turned up to around 1k watts. Soon I will have some UVB lighting added to the tent.
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