Veterans...Get the hell in here now!

BarnBuster

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By TASSANEE VEJPONGSA
Friday, July 06, 2018 08:05AM
MAE SAI, Thailand -
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A former member of the Thai navy's elite SEAL unit who volunteered to help his old comrades in their risky mission to evacuate a dozen boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has become the first casualty of the massive rescue effort.

The death of former Petty Officer 1st Class Saman Gunan early Friday morning during an underwater swim in the partly flooded cave struck a particularly deep chord with Thais, because he was a volunteer on a humanitarian mission that has riveted the nation's attention for two weeks. And as is the case with elite military units all over the world, Thailand's SEALs were quick to pay their own heartfelt tribute to their fallen friend.

http://abc13.com/navy-seal-dies-trying-to-rescue-boys-trapped-in-cave/3699338/
 

Olive Drab Green

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Interesting grid location. Pretty sure this is the event on Thanksgiving that led to us getting ambushed on Black Friday. We were tasked with securing the area where the Apaches smoked two or three people emplacing an IED in the fields. The first time, we waited for EOD for three hours. They told us they’d be there tomorrow, so we RTB’d and got two hours of sleep (we didn’t actually sleep) and patrolled out on foot at the crack of dawn. On our way to the location the second time, they were waiting for us.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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@~3:25 to end

That berserker’s rage becomes extremely maladaptive and destroys everything you hold dear when you return to civilian life, and the only thing you can do is work on yourself and pray to God your life doesn’t disintegrate before you can recover.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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Jonathan Shay makes an explicit connection between the berserker rage of soldiers and the hyperarousal of post-traumatic stress disorder.[33] In Achilles in Vietnam, he writes:

If a soldier survives the berserk state, it imparts emotional deadness and vulnerability to explosive rage to his psychology and permanent hyperarousal to his physiology — hallmarks of post-traumatic stress disorder in combat veterans. My clinical experience with Vietnam combat veterans prompts me to place the berserk state at the heart of their most severe psychological and psychophysiological injuries.[34]
 
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doublejj

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Jonathan Shay makes an explicit connection between the berserker rage of soldiers and the hyperarousal of post-traumatic stress disorder.[33] In Achilles in Vietnam, he writes:

If a soldier survives the berserk state, it imparts emotional deadness and vulnerability to explosive rage to his psychology and permanent hyperarousal to his physiology — hallmarks of post-traumatic stress disorder in combat veterans. My clinical experience with Vietnam combat veterans prompts me to place the berserk state at the heart of their most severe psychological and psychophysiological injuries.[34]
Roger that....
 

Olive Drab Green

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Last thing I’ll post on it. It’s more or less for anyone not initiated to what it’s like to read and understand. Obviously, people that have experienced such things like we have already know.

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“The rage the berserker experienced was referred to as berserkergang ("going berserk"). This condition has been described as follows:

This fury, which was called berserkergang, occurred not only in the heat of battle, but also during laborious work. Men who were thus seized performed things which otherwise seemed impossible for human power. This condition is said to have begun with shivering, chattering of the teeth, and chill in the body, and then the face swelled and changed its colour. With this was connected a great hot-headedness, which at last gave over into a great rage, under which they howled as wild animals, bit the edge of their shields, and cut down everything they met without discriminating between friend or foe. When this condition ceased, a great dulling of the mind and feebleness followed, which could last for one or several days.[25]
 

doublejj

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Last thing I’ll post on it. It’s more or less for anyone not initiated to what it’s like to read and understand. Obviously, people that have experienced such things like we have already know.

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“The rage the berserker experienced was referred to as berserkergang ("going berserk"). This condition has been described as follows:

This fury, which was called berserkergang, occurred not only in the heat of battle, but also during laborious work. Men who were thus seized performed things which otherwise seemed impossible for human power. This condition is said to have begun with shivering, chattering of the teeth, and chill in the body, and then the face swelled and changed its colour. With this was connected a great hot-headedness, which at last gave over into a great rage, under which they howled as wild animals, bit the edge of their shields, and cut down everything they met without discriminating between friend or foe. When this condition ceased, a great dulling of the mind and feebleness followed, which could last for one or several days.[25]
My Lai....
 
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