Strips vs cobs grow

[InTheValley]

yeah but, 4gpw is badass, LOL>. you can drive your plants to max DLI with high par for 9 hours, then dim to keep vegging for how ever long you want, thus cutting even more watts per cycle.

High PAR, low watts, is efficiency to me,

I like 12/12 from seed, get them in, get them out. But then, that takes around 80 days for a turnaround. 4 tops. So, Ive decided to do the scrog thing, thus giving me 120 tops by adding another 80 days, so i get 120 tops VS the 8 tops in the same time frame. Longer veg, scrog, High PAR, for DLI as fast as possible, reduce watts for the day.. This is why the sun is awesome, because at 2,000 par, the plants hit the DLI in just 6 hours, so the rest of the early/late days watts can be reduced dramatically.

 

[Heisengrow]

yeah but, 4gpw is badass, LOL>. you can drive your plants to max DLI with high par for 9 hours, then dim to keep vegging for how ever long you want, thus cutting even more watts per cycle.

High PAR, low watts, is efficiency to me,

I like 12/12 from seed, get them in, get them out. But then, that takes around 80 days for a turnaround. 4 tops. So, Ive decided to do the scrog thing, thus giving me 120 tops by adding another 80 days, so i get 120 tops VS the 8 tops in the same time frame. Longer veg, scrog, High PAR, for DLI as fast as possible, reduce watts for the day.. This is why the sun is awesome, because at 2,000 par, the plants hit the DLI in just 6 hours, so the rest of the early/late days watts can be reduced dramatically.

Did you say 12 12 from seed?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

QBs are good, too. Less assembly. I think it’s all miniscule in actual difference, but I think efficiency for each are around 2.4-2.5, up to 2.7 micromols per joule. I think, though slight, the progression goes

Strips > QBs > COBs. Even better if strategically combined.

The guy was right, though: At that efficiency, you’re splitting hairs.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Did you say 12 12 from seed?

This was 11/13 from seed under half of 200w of COB for most of the grow.

 

[ANC]

Ya got so many COBs, they're practically strips.
How many watts? How close?

 

[InTheValley]

Did you say 12 12 from seed?

Yep, topped at 14 days, sexed at 21 days, done is 80 days, dam OG takes forever.

 

[ANC]

This was 11/13 from seed under half of 200w of COB for most of the grow.

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OD, you should use normal pencil to mark your plant tags, it lasts much longer than marker.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

OD, you should use normal pencil to mark your plant tags, it lasts much longer than marker.

I’ll give it a shot, but I used Sharpie; the tag is backwards. It’ll probably stay.

 

[ANC]

I learned that lesson the hard way outdoors with some orchids.... The Sharpie just ups and goes one day.

 

[Heisengrow]

Yep, topped at 14 days, sexed at 21 days, done is 80 days, dam OG takes forever.

Just curious why from seed and not 1 or 2 node flips from cuts?Cuts are already sexually mature and begin to flower right away.seeds wont flower untill sexual expresion.

 

[InTheValley]

well mainly because they were bag seed, and didnt know the sex before hand. Then, lets just bud them, and see what kind of bud it produces, then, I ended up making my own strain. Which im using now. It sucked growing out a scrog for 3/4 of them being males. waste of time. Now, Without knowing the sex with these, I 12/12 from seed, top at 14 days, show at day 21-24, pull males, switch to 18/6 for the keepers, which i did this time. Now, I took 2 cutting from the biggest of these 2 females, and going to make fem seeds, already have the tiresis mist. Then, Ill have all females, no more guessing, and then can do 4 plants, 30 day veg, and flower. But i think in the end, I need something in the 50 day flower period. *shruggs, but this strain is going to be fire, worth the wait..

 

[boilingoil]

GPW dont mean shiznit.GP kilowatt hour is everything.you could have vegged them plants for 2 months and got 4gpw that still dont mean nothing.im in rdwc and can easily veg for 8 weeks and pull a pound a plant but it would take me 4 months to do it.
There is no denying the science led puts out more micromoles per watt.thats a fact.not an assumption.not talking about cheap ass blurple LED here I'm talking about quality components.
You think I would spend 2300 dollars on cobs to cover up a 4x10 unless they knocked the dicks off my HPS?your crazy as hell.

OK, so how did we get to 4 gpw when I suggested that at 23 wpsf I was going to achieve 2 gpw and that's under LEDs.
Use what ever metric you chose. My personal choice is what it actually cost me per pound for production from start to finish and under HIDs mine runs $120 per lb produced ( without my labor cost) and all tho the metrics are not quite in yet on the LEDs side it looks to be around $ 80 per lb produced.
You showed pictures of your plants but with nothing as a reference for cola size or bud size but claim cobs for the win but yet supply no metrics for your claims.
I stated that at the same wpsf that your running the cobs at I can produce 1.2-1.4 gpw under HIDs is all and there was never an argument that LEDs can't produce more umols that HID lighting. So where did you read that in any of my post.

And crazy is being a Mod on another site doing a COB vs CMH vs HPS that you didn't even finish. And when asked what the outcome was you just seem to Ignore the question.

 

[blowincherrypie]

This was 11/13 from seed under half of 200w of COB for most of the grow.

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good shit.. what have you found to be the best container size for 12/12 (11/13 whatever)? You only run from seed or any clones?

 

[Heisengrow]

OK, so how did we get to 4 gpw when I suggested that at 23 wpsf I was going to achieve 2 gpw and that's under LEDs.
Use what ever metric you chose. My personal choice is what it actually cost me per pound for production from start to finish and under HIDs mine runs $120 per lb produced ( without my labor cost) and all tho the metrics are not quite in yet on the LEDs side it looks to be around $ 80 per lb produced.
You showed pictures of your plants but with nothing as a reference for cola size or bud size but claim cobs for the win but yet supply no metrics for your claims.
I stated that at the same wpsf that your running the cobs at I can produce 1.2-1.4 gpw under HIDs is all and there was never an argument that LEDs can't produce more umols that HID lighting. So where did you read that in any of my post.

And crazy is being a Mod on another site doing a COB vs CMH vs HPS that you didn't even finish. And when asked what the outcome was you just seem to Ignore the question.

Take that goofy Gatorade bottle and sit down son.That comparison was finished,I'm still tallying up the numbers.
You need more things to compare to?

 

[boilingoil]

Take that goofy Gatorade bottle and sit down son.That comparison was finished,I'm still tallying up the numbers.
You need more things to compare to?
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No , the only thing I see is your bud size is no different than ones grown under strips, CMH's and less than HPS. Have you grown under strips, used quantum boards for comparison to the cobs ? If not how can you claim cobs for the win then come back again with a quote from GBAUTO and myself repeating your self like a child with a point to make.

 

[Dustjesus]

The man gave you pics with a fuckin GALLON MILK JUG and you still pressing?? Let me see some milk jug nugs with some led strips. LOL

 

[Heisengrow]

No , the only thing I see is your bud size is no different than ones grown under strips, CMH's and less than HPS. Have you grown under strips, used quantum boards for comparison to the cobs ? If not how can you claim cobs for the win then come back again with a quote from GBAUTO and myself repeating your self like a child with a point to make.

Lol are you really being serious?who the fuck are you again?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Take that goofy Gatorade bottle and sit down son.That comparison was finished,I'm still tallying up the numbers.
You need more things to compare to?
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Ho-lee shit.

 

[Heisengrow]

No , the only thing I see is your bud size is no different than ones grown under strips, CMH's and less than HPS. Have you grown under strips, used quantum boards for comparison to the cobs ? If not how can you claim cobs for the win then come back again with a quote from GBAUTO and myself repeating your self like a child with a point to make.

Lol I know who u are now haha.the guy that grows in a 12x8 with a 750 gravita getting 4 lbs of larf and 1 oz of nugs.im threw here haha.i recognize them two janky ass plants under that 750 a mile away.

 

[Argentocobs]

Hi guys ! I love both type of lights, but to be honest, i was little spectical with the strips until I made a test with some EB strips gen 1 @700 , 6 3000k and 3 3500k so about 140 w, in a 2x2 tent with a 24k gold clone. The thing is that I have to raise the lights many times because plants were showing sings of light saturation , leaf dropping at the end of the day and some yellowing of the leaves Wich was quickly corrected. The results were pretty good for this first run with 4 liter coco grown.
One thing I noticed is that cobs keeps the plants a little warmer.
And for cola size , I think is all about genetics and growing skills in a good environment with good lights .
Saludos !