Couple Fined For Refusing To Host Gay Wedding Shuts Down Venue
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Sir Napsalot
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*altar*
Buddha2525
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The OP is rather hilarious, yet she does lack tact.
I can see if a person were to get banned for whatever reason, from say a grocery store, and that could lead to the slippery slope, how does that person get food to survive? Even things like being forced to sit at the back of the bus.
But we're talking about a fucking cake! Something which has no purpose other than look pretty and give you diabetes. Yet a lot of you here are acting like this couple was taken out back and shot like a dog. I mean, really?
There's more important things here for LGBT issues. Like what if some deluded gay person wants to study at a religious university, but doesn't know they're gay, then meets up with a fellow volleyball player, and gets it on. The other person feels guilty, admits to having a gay sex liason. This actually happened, getting both kicked out. To make it even more "funny" the poor woman was forced to pay back her $6,000 scholarship out of her pocket too!
Another incident was a woman went on a honeymoon with her same sex wife and posted a shot on Twitter, only to find out she was fired after getting back from her week long vacation personal time off. She wasn't even allowed to enter the school to gather her belongings because the administration thought it would traumatize her six year old students, with the worry they might not understand and want to be gay too! The the horror! Even though gay marriage is now a thing, not some "civil union" or "medical marijuana" type status, where technically you aren't married or allowed to do it really. But they are married, and now able to file joint taxes, like heterosexual couples did in the Middle Ages before such an "enlightened" concept came about.
But let them eat cake? Right?
I can see if a person were to get banned for whatever reason, from say a grocery store, and that could lead to the slippery slope, how does that person get food to survive? Even things like being forced to sit at the back of the bus.
But we're talking about a fucking cake! Something which has no purpose other than look pretty and give you diabetes. Yet a lot of you here are acting like this couple was taken out back and shot like a dog. I mean, really?
There's more important things here for LGBT issues. Like what if some deluded gay person wants to study at a religious university, but doesn't know they're gay, then meets up with a fellow volleyball player, and gets it on. The other person feels guilty, admits to having a gay sex liason. This actually happened, getting both kicked out. To make it even more "funny" the poor woman was forced to pay back her $6,000 scholarship out of her pocket too!
Another incident was a woman went on a honeymoon with her same sex wife and posted a shot on Twitter, only to find out she was fired after getting back from her week long vacation personal time off. She wasn't even allowed to enter the school to gather her belongings because the administration thought it would traumatize her six year old students, with the worry they might not understand and want to be gay too! The the horror! Even though gay marriage is now a thing, not some "civil union" or "medical marijuana" type status, where technically you aren't married or allowed to do it really. But they are married, and now able to file joint taxes, like heterosexual couples did in the Middle Ages before such an "enlightened" concept came about.
But let them eat cake? Right?
gwheels
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What I find hard to understand is why you would want a homophobic cake maker to make a cake on your wedding day. Except to hammer a point home.
In Toronto a couple of years ago a lesbian took a muslim barbershop to court because they would not give her a hair cut. She likes going to the barber because they give her the right haircut at a fair price (which makes sense). But the shop in question was run by devout muslims. They can not touch a womans hair.
So the big stink was really to get her name in the paper for the LGBT community.
If I were insulted with my business in a shop i would tell them to pound salt and take my business elsewhere.
But what do I know. I am a conflicted liberal conservative at war with myself
In Toronto a couple of years ago a lesbian took a muslim barbershop to court because they would not give her a hair cut. She likes going to the barber because they give her the right haircut at a fair price (which makes sense). But the shop in question was run by devout muslims. They can not touch a womans hair.
So the big stink was really to get her name in the paper for the LGBT community.
If I were insulted with my business in a shop i would tell them to pound salt and take my business elsewhere.
But what do I know. I am a conflicted liberal conservative at war with myself
Fogdog
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If a person wants to deny service to select groups they can do so if they operate a private club. A business owner who serves the public must serve the whole community. We have quite a bit of history that shows what happens when businesses can exclude minorities. It's about the civil rights of people, not just a cake.What I find hard to understand is why you would want a homophobic cake maker to make a cake on your wedding day. Except to hammer a point home.
In Toronto a couple of years ago a lesbian took a muslim barbershop to court because they would not give her a hair cut. She likes going to the barber because they give her the right haircut at a fair price (which makes sense). But the shop in question was run by devout muslims. They can not touch a womans hair.
So the big stink was really to get her name in the paper for the LGBT community.
If I were insulted with my business in a shop i would tell them to pound salt and take my business elsewhere.
But what do I know. I am a conflicted liberal conservative at war with myself
In the US, a male Muslim-only barbershop could operate if they were a private club and not open to the general public. If he wants to be open to the general public then he can't discriminate on the basis of gender, disability or religion.
UncleBuck
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You can understand why someone wants to get service the same as everyone else and not be treated like a second class citizen?What I find hard to understand is why you would want a homophobic cake maker to make a cake on your wedding day. Except to hammer a point home.
In Toronto a couple of years ago a lesbian took a muslim barbershop to court because they would not give her a hair cut. She likes going to the barber because they give her the right haircut at a fair price (which makes sense). But the shop in question was run by devout muslims. They can not touch a womans hair.
So the big stink was really to get her name in the paper for the LGBT community.
If I were insulted with my business in a shop i would tell them to pound salt and take my business elsewhere.
But what do I know. I am a conflicted liberal conservative at war with myself
Jesus people suck
Rob Roy
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Except when you say " If he wants to be open to the general public then he can't discriminate on the basis of gender, disability or religion" you are creating a false circumstance, which only becomes "valid" if you believe government people have more rights than other people who actually OWN the particular property in question.
Obviously a person who wants to exclude somebody or a class of somebodies doesn't want to be open to the general public do they?
So it seems your default stance is that property owners wishes are secondary to non property owners wishes and that somehow a right to force another unwilling person to serve you somehow exists. Or at least "government people" possess this alleged "right". Interesting.
Also, you seem to have a kind of religious faith based superstitious belief that government is /should be omnipotent. like some people believe in supreme beings and deities etc.
Again, interesting and sort of childish in the simplicity of the authoritarian worship derangement. Which directly conflicts with your assumed goal of using an imposed hierarchy to facilitate "equality". That's logically impossible.
UncleBuck
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We all get that you want to kick black people out of stores
It’s because you’re a miserable racist klantard
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Rob Roy
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I want all people to be able to control their own bodies and their own justly acquired property. Do you?
If a black person just didn't like you because you are "a creepy white guy" I don't think you should use a gun to enslave the aforementioned black person, even if your enslavement is for a limited amount of time. Does the duration of your rapey activity somehow mean it's not rape ?
UncleBuck
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i'd say sorry you can't kick black people out of stores anymore but i am very not sorry about that, klantard
Rob Roy
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You should say sorry to all the black people you're okay with using a gun on when you deprive them of their right of self determination over their own body and their own property
I am sorry that you would use a gun to threaten a neutral person remaining on their own property, Poopy Pants. I sure hope you won't go to somebodies property and burn crosses on it too.
UncleBuck
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why? because they can go into the same store as a white now?
londonfog
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But you are the one with having blacks kicked out due to the color of skin. You also see nothing wrong with them mistreating your beautiful mother and caller her a Bit@H and making her leave a public store due to her being female...all in the name of "property rights "
UncleBuck
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"property rights" is the most obvious and pathetic excuse for wanting to be racist i've ever seen
apollo4201982
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So the state can fine this buisness and violate their religious rights?
UncleBuck
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there is no such thing as a right to harm others, that's why we passed civil rights einstein
do you thnk businesses should be allowed to deny service to black people too?
Rob Roy
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So you're in favor of making a neutral person serve another person against their will then, Einstein?
UncleBuck
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has anyone been forced to open a store against their will, klantard?So you're in favor of making a neutral person serve another person against their will then, Einstein?