Papasmurf99
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I'm gunna go smoke some dank and go to sleep, tomorrow's a new day, got big plans to spend some time in my grow room tomorrow getting ready to expand yewwwww!
Aussie Growers Thread
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reza92
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and yours was so short as well
Joomby
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. I had mad beef with him ages ago and fucked him at every turn.to the point where all he could say is I'm a racist homophobe. I pretty much made the assumption he and big lue were the same person and that he is actually a white guy pretending to be black and gay so he could use it as a shield for every argument.i asked him to take a photo of his skin with my name and date written on it but he bailed and went quiet for aawhile .then everyone realised he is full of shit.
giglewigle
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So shit I guess I’m getting the other call fluids then
yummy fur
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OK let's deconstruct this. Right you put 'true stories' in scare quotes, OK I get it we all get it, then you write 'Pinocchio as if the scare quotes were too subtle. Why not just say 'you are lying'. Why not just be straight play a straight bat.
OK I'll assume you just said 'you're lying', OK fair enough.
What is the purpose of you saying that. I really don't get it. What are you getting at what has your knickers all bunched up, what is your problem. If you think I'm lying about anything then why not just tell me what it is and ask me to prove it. If it is possible that is.
You somehow thought I was not in Australia because I said 'good morning' which is just a rhetorical device. I was accused of lying. I don't need to prove it but I posted a picture of my computer with the time and this thread and a view out at the night.
Why would I want to lie, I really don't get it. For the record lying makes one weak, liars
yummy fur
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That's a very curious thing to say, what makes you think I didn't answer your post. Please explain.
yummy fur
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There will be a slope from 4 to 7, If 4 and 7 are both spot on you can be pretty confident that 6 is going to be right.
I'd rather be posting useful stuff than just carrying on flaming, which is what my post is about the $7 meter, I have done the tests and anyone of the dozens of lurkers or people who read that post can be confident that that $7 meter is just a good as spending 50 bucks. I've done the tests for other people's benefit. That's the sort of posts I'd rather be making.
Someone says, 'it must be crap because it's cheap' well that's certainly what I thought but I took a chance and was surprised and now other people don't have to waste money. Because hydro shops prey on us dope heads they treat us like mugs who are so anal about our plants we'll swallow all their marketing bullshit.
Like the hippie house hydro shop that sells my viparspectra par 700 for $600, when I can get it from the manufacture with free delivery for $380 (ended up paying 320)
reza92
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pretty much. its an exponential. its why more accurate meters need 3 point calibration or better. more points on the gradient to more precisely calculate the slope change. stupid funny how calculus works
giglewigle
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not to worry he can post Links tomorro that will put all this to rest hopefully
reza92
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except plenty have already done those same test you did and came to the conclusion that the quality is sporadic at best. while majority of reviews on a quality units like bluelabs speak to years of continued use and plenty of after sale support from the manufacturer. many will repair out of warranty units for a small fee if you email them.
yummy fur
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The easiest way is to get a cheap meter, it already comes with the calibration powders. Calibrate it then get the indicator drops and when you get the pH right with the calibrated cheap meter, which incidentally is the same price as buying buffer solution, no sorry the pH buffer solution was 12 bucks. So once you calibrate and check the 7 dollar meter with the supplied powder using distilled water. You then get your water to the right pH then you use the drops and see the colour, once you've done that you're golden you can use the drops for ever, you never need to calibrate and it's will always be as accurate as you'll ever need for hydro.
I advised someone recently who asked me what viparspectra they should get, to get the PAR700 but then they didn't listen to the advice they asked for and bought the vipar 900V, which is shit. They bought it because it was 50 bucks cheaper but it was 900W instead of 700W so that must be good right. Er not the 900 which has more diodes and cost more to run and has a shitty exhaust design actually puts out quite a bit less light than the cooler running cheaper more versatile PAR700. Go figger.
yummy fur
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When I go out bushwalking from Kanangra Walls to Katoomba, a 4 day journey through the Wild Dog ranges, I take a gps, I also take a compass and map because my map is not going to fail me. Similarly once my meter is calibrated long enough so that I can then use that to calibrate the colour on the drops, I know the drops are a reliable back up.
I'm not doing lab work, the drops are perfectly fine for our use, we really don't need two decimal places precision. These are just my thoughts and I supply some reasoning with it. Some people will shoot me down for this but I'm really speaking not to experienced people I'm talking to the newbies who I know feel really nervous, who think if their pH is out a bit everyone will die.
But I always try to give clear reasoning how I come to my conclusions. Maybe I'm wrong in something I've said. I'm quite happy to be shown I'm wrong if I'm wrong. But there has to be some reasoning.
yummy fur
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Yeah I get that, but as I said, I wouldn't care if my meter broke now because now I know what colour I'm looking for with the drops, and frankly I prefer that. I'll keep using the meter till it stops working. So far, it's brilliant. I'm just saying what I discovered. And it's not an opinion, really when this cheap meter read the 4 correctly after being calibrated to the 7 I would not have believed it if I did not see it for myself. If I could post a video here I would.
reza92
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while i understand what your saying most people also can read the colour chart supplied with the drops (piss yellow for 6 ph for most brands). the beauty of reaction tests is theyre a set chemical reaction and shouldnt need meter to know what ph your getting from it. most labs require electronic units to be double checked with litmus strips to verify. we as growers use a universal indicator (actually a mix of a few indicators) so we can tell the difference between 5.5 and 6 but not 5.9 and 6.1. if you wanted you could order a few specific indicators like Bromocresol purple and get your ph accurate to the decimal point without ever touching a meter.
giglewigle
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I’ll stick with my current ph meter n get some four done n dusted and it’s a lot less of a fuckaround
if ur saying something like what u are saying it sounds like what you’re saying is a opinion how is it not unless there was like idk what word here mmmmm like prof for lack of a better word
OzCocoLoco
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You're calibrating with filtered water so you're whole spiel about the accuracy of your toy meter is based of incorrect calibration.
OzCocoLoco
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Why have a conversation with a guy that doesn't know the difference between distilled water and filtered water ?
giglewigle
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Also I thought u dident do shit for a living not that I work but keep better track of you’re lies