Needing Guidance for F562b build.

boilingoil

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Are you running it dimmed. If so how much are you dimming it by?
edit** missed a word.
Not dimming for flower, I do dim them to around 70% for early veg.
The first shot of the fixture on the left is dimmed to 200 watts as I have 70 watts of supplemental diode as an experiment. The one on the right is a full 268 watts from the wall.
Here is a shot without the supplemental lighting. Each fixtures pulls 268 watts from the wall.
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Achillesactual

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Not dimming for flower, I do dim them to around 70% for early veg.
The first shot of the fixture on the left is dimmed to 200 watts as I have 70 watts of supplemental diode as an experiment. The one on the right is a full 268 watts from the wall.
Here is a shot without the supplemental lighting. Each fixtures pulls 268 watts from the wall.
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Damn those are some happy girls! I'm tempted to throw together my flowering lights and use the two 240h 24's In my flowering space and to run 10 strips with each. that has them running the strips at around 60% but I'm a bit afraid that 480 watts would be way too much for the 2x4.

I'll probably use one of the 240-24's for my vegetative light and have it powering 12 strips. I'll probably go the route you suggested for the flowering tent, and buy a 320h 24b and run that on a dimmer.

The 60 watts per square foot I would have to be using if i used both 240 watts, would probably bleach the shit out of the plants. what are your thoughts on going that route?
 

boilingoil

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Damn those are some happy girls! I'm tempted to throw together my flowering lights and use the two 240h 24's In my flowering space and to run 10 strips with each. that has them running the strips at around 60% but I'm a bit afraid that 480 watts would be way too much for the 2x4.

I'll probably use one of the 240-24's for my vegetative light and have it powering 12 strips. I'll probably go the route you suggested for the flowering tent, and buy a 320h 24b and run that on a dimmer.

The 60 watts per square foot I would have to be using if i used both 240 watts, would probably bleach the shit out of the plants. what are your thoughts on going that route?
I sort of look at powering LEDs with the efficiency in mind. I look at what the strips required amperage is for the claimed efficiency and start there. I don't care what the max amperage the chips can take cause I'll never power them to max anyways. Running your strips like that and you'll find you won't need those expensive heatsinks to keep them cool.
 

Airwalker16

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How about you sit back and let someone who can genuinely help me help.
Because cluttering this thread up with nonsense when I've already spelled out the driver situation isn't doing me a damn lick of good.
I'm looking for informed decisions not trying to reiterate the same point already stated 5 different ways, If that's what i was going for i would go talk to a child about this.
You're ridiculous.
 

Airwalker16

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Glad to see this is such a safe space, Where everyone is treated as special beings, With important feelings that we must band together to protect. it makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
But I'm here to build a light. And nothing in his post history makes me believe his input is going to do anything but slow down this process and muddle the true conversation at hand.

If that upsets you please pm me about it instead of further muddling this thread.
You must have done very very little research on my "post history" then. The arrogance is real...20160807_121828.jpg 20160426_100847.jpg 20160427_215449.jpg 20160212_220151.jpg 20160220_104356.jpg
 

Achillesactual

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I sort of look at powering LEDs with the efficiency in mind. I look at what the strips required amperage is for the claimed efficiency and start there. I don't care what the max amperage the chips can take cause I'll never power them to max anyways. Running your strips like that and you'll find you won't need those expensive heatsinks to keep them cool.
Okay that's super cool, Good to know. I wanted to run them at less than max amperage to keep the efficiency higher as well but had not looked at any efficiency statistics for these yet. That's a great place to start in terms of figuring out how hard I want to run these!
I'm alright with using the heatsink's even if they are a little bit of overkill, should just keep my efficiency's even lower since I've read that temperature of the diodes dictates how much they will draw.
 

Achillesactual

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As long as you are happy with your lights Airwalker, that's all that matters, but if you were trying to do anything other than assure me that I shouldn't pay attention to what you have to say you missed the mark. Everything from your choice of components, Your deplorable cable management, and the fact that you are holding it up using a knot a child in their first year of scouts would know better than to use makes me very much so uncomfortable with taking any build advice from you.
Not saying you don't grow great happy plants or grow great bud. But I'm building my lights right now not trying to stroke ego's
 

Airwalker16

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As long as you are happy with your lights Airwalker, that's all that matters, but if you were trying to do anything other than assure me that I shouldn't pay attention to what you have to say you missed the mark. Everything from your choice of components, Your deplorable cable management, and the fact that you are holding it up using a knot a child in their first year of scouts would know better than to use makes me very much so uncomfortable with taking any build advice from you.
Not saying you don't grow great happy plants or grow great bud. But I'm building my lights right now not trying to stroke ego's
You're just an asshole. That's all there is to it. :D
First pic shows 4 hanging points. But I'm sure you were too anxious to comment on what you thought you saw that you totally missed that.
 

Achillesactual

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I haven't been anxious once in my entire life. There's nothing worth taking away from your pictures which I wish you had saved yourself the embarrassment of sharing. Why would I waste time to analyze them in depth when you didn't even put in the effort to build them half decently?

Most people I have no interest in talking to in this world would agree that I am an asshole.
Those I care to converse with seem to feel the exact opposite.

Strange how things work. /s

Since you care so much, yet are incapable of reading whats being said or perhaps doing a simple google search. I've decided to share a link in the hopes that once you wrap your dense scull around this you might disappear. https://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=hlg-240h

edit* spelling and link
 
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boilingoil

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Okay that's super cool, Good to know. I wanted to run them at less than max amperage to keep the efficiency higher as well but had not looked at any efficiency statistics for these yet. That's a great place to start in terms of figuring out how hard I want to run these!
I'm alright with using the heatsink's even if they are a little bit of overkill, should just keep my efficiency's even lower since I've read that temperature of the diodes dictates how much they will draw.
Just for a reference, here is a sample test I did. 9 strips per 240H, 268 watts from the wall.
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U-channel Heatsinks
 

Airwalker16

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I haven't been anxious once in my entire life. There's nothing worth taking away from your pictures which I wish you had saved yourself the embarrassment of sharing. Why would I waste time to analyze them in depth when you didn't even put in the effort to build them half decently?

Most people I have no interest in talking to in this world would agree that I am an asshole.
Those I care to converse with seem to feel the exact opposite.

Strange how things work. /s

Since you care so much, yet are incapable of reading whats being said or perhaps doing a simple google search. I've decided to share a link in the hopes that once you wrap your dense scull around this you might disappear. https://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=hlg-240h

edit* spelling and link
Dawg, that was built in 2016, when these were being built before YOU even knew what they were. I drilled and tapped every fucking hole on those heatsinks. Quit acting like you know what a good light is when you've never even built one. Noone here appreciates your bull shit. Take it somewhere else.
 

Achillesactual

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Are you 12?
Did you never learn to leave a room you aren't welcome in?
Do you expect everyone in life to like you?
Do you expect people to be nice even after they Have told you to fuck off?

Look I get it. I work with people who have mental health conditions for a living. Life never set you up with the skills on how to properly interact with others. So you can't pick up on blatantly glaring social ques. It's rough.
And now you are here on the internet trying to do what?
Garner the appreciation or respect of an individual whom has neither for anything you are doing currently?
So what's your end game?

Did you check that link and figure out what driver were talking about yet? Or was a direct link too much to handle? Just like the instructions in my very first reply on page one...
 

Merlin1147

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Hey everyone, Would greatly appreciate some help with the finishing touches on my Samsung fstrip build. I want to wire in parallel and plan on using 5 pin waygo's for connecting everything.

I have;
32 f562b strips (3500k)
32 24 inch long 1inch wide heatsinks from heatsink usa
3 hlg 240h-24 drivers (unfortunately I fucked up and they are undimmable)

I'm not Intending on using all the strips yet. but rather have a larger grow area opening up soon so I just ordered in bulk to save money.

The build I am trying to make a light for is for my 2x4 grow tent (which has two fans and a 4inch inline fan with carbon filter for airflow)
And a second 2x2 light for a mother/ clone area.
Howmany strips should I be using for both layouts. and are my 240h drivers junk since they aren't dimmable? or could I get away with using one for my mother/ vegetative light driving 8 strips.
Would be great to get some use out of them since I already have them but its not the end of the world if I can't because the seller refunded me since they listed them as dimmable.

any downsides to using 2 sided thermal tape?

I'm very new to this and understand some of you are probably tired of stupid questions like these but I would greatly appreciate some help
Go to Ledgardener. Awesome and thorough information!
Go to the categories tab and click builds. Then the first build is what you want
Then go to the calculator tab and click the parallel build tool to double check your driver.
Sorry I would have put the links but RIU would let me.
 

1212ham

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Howmany strips should I be using for both layouts. and are my 240h drivers junk since they aren't dimmable? or could I get away with using one for my mother/ vegetative light driving 8 strips.

any downsides to using 2 sided thermal tape?
The tape is difficult to remove. I can think of ways to achieve some dimming, but the efficiency will be less than using a dimmable driver.
 
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