Is mollases worth it during vegging?

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imthemedic

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Never tried it but I dont think it would hurt anything, Im not sure it would be helpfull either?
 
growman3666

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well i am hearing stories right now on studies where the veggin plant with mollases out grew the other without by an extraordinary amount
 
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growman3666 said:
well i am hearing stories right now on studies where the veggin plant with mollases out grew the other without by an extraordinary amount
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True, that! What molasses does during vegging is provide a two pronged benefit.

On one hand it provides the plants with a "fairly" well balanced (although rather weak) supply of nutrients, encluding secondary and micro nutrients. In other words - in part, it acts as a diluted fertilizer, acting directly on plant developement.

On the other hand (and probably much more importantly), the carbohydrates (natural sugars) go to feed the "micro-herd" of benificial micro organisms that live in the soil (or other medium). Now that the micro-herd is "fat and sassy" it is free to go around munching it's way through the medium, releasing all the natural nutrients in a "processed" form that is redily available to the plant. In other words, it feeds the organisms that "cook" the medium into an edible meal for the plant.

I find that a reduced amount of molasses during the vegging stage is adequate to keep the micro-heard happy. I do this by using it less often (about 1/4 of the waterings) during veg.
 
MaryJaneDoe

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Liquid molasses, dry molasses powder, brown sugar, corn syrup - source of fast consuming sugars for feeding and breeding the aerobic bacteria in compost teas. Most microherd populations love the high carbon content in sugar products. Sugars are best dissolved and broken down by microbes in compost tea that has brewed at least 1-3 days, before applying to the soil. If too much sugar is added on soil straight as a topdressing, it may cause a temporary nitrogen deficiency in the soil as the microherd populations grow too fast. Molasses also contains sulfur which acts as a mild natural fungicide also. Molasses is also a great natural deodorizer for fishy teas. NOTE: Recent studies have shown that unsulfured molasses or dry molasses powder is best for faster aerobic microbial growth in tea brewing. For a more fungal tea don't add too much simple sugar or molasses to your aerobic teas. Use more complex sugars, starches and carbohydrates like in seaweed, rotten fruit, soy sauce, or other fungal foods.
 
crazyoutlaw

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Wow,this thread is really imforming..I always thought that mollases was best in flowering,but now Ima feed it to my vegging plants...I have some seedlings right now though,should I feed it to them right now,even if theyr only a week old?

Also,Im growing in coco coir,so will the mollases feed microbes in the coir too..?
 
crazyoutlaw

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Umm..its 1 tablespoon per gallon of preheated water...too much mollases can easily cause nute lockout and other problems...bettr lower than higher with mollases..
 
manofmando

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I use 3 cap fulls of Fox Farm nutes and 3 tablespoons of Golding Farm molasses (3 good squeezes of the bottle) per gallon of water. I've noticed a large spike in growth during veggie time. My set is 4-10' pots, the kids range from 8-11". Experiment with one if you can. May the force be with you.
 
MaryJaneDoe

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It's 2 tablespoons per gallon of water. heat a little water put the molasses in and then mix it up then add the rest of the water, makes it easier. I warn you that you need to use all that you make because if you leave it for another time it will stink you out. Also I don't think a little seedling should need anything for awhile. They get all they need from the soil. You want to encourage top growth not root growth, I mean you need strong roots and all but you smoke the top part, so I always start with small container and then work my way up to a bigger one pot by pot. Yes it's a pain but that way you get more foliage just thought I would throw that in there. Good luck to you.Any that I have left of the mix use for your house plants, it doesn't hurt anything. I use it during veg but closer to the end of veg is when I really start using it.
 
manofmando

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I agree with JaneDoe. Seedies don't need much food, just TLC. The bigger they get, the more nutes and molasses I'd use .. but I max out at 3 tbs of molasses per gallon along with whatev nutes you throwing in. So, yes I recommend molasses thru out the entire processes, both veggie and flower. Its just sugar man.
 
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