Canadian pot companies came up way short on sales expectations. So what happened?

gb123

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The greedy wanna be fools didnt listen to the smart all knowing ...8-):weed:(:bongsmilie:blsmoke::bigjoint::mrgreen:(:


The MARKET! :idea:


:hump::finger::idea:


Bellwether cannabis companies reported earnings this week for the first time since Canada legalized pot Oct. 17
By

MAXA. CHERNEY
TECH REPORTER

Within days of Canada’s legalization of adult recreational use of marijuana, the country’s largest pot producers had shipped far less than 1% of the pot the government has forecast Canadians will spend on cannabis in the quarter.

Amid a rush of earnings reports this week, the most notable result was the relative lack of profits, or even that much revenue, from recreational pot sales in Canada for a period that ended less than three weeks before the public was able to buy. With Statistics Canada estimates of sales hitting C$1 billion in the first quarter of availability, five major producers reported a total of C$1.7 million in recreational sales, and none gave revenue forecasts for the launch quarter.

“The expectations before the quarters were announced were for initial large shipments at the end of September heading into Oct. 17,” PI Financial analyst Jason Zandberg said. “It has been very disappointing to see. A lot of the companies have not disclosed what recreational sales in the quarter were — if it’s not a big number, you don’t want to highlight it.”

For executives at Canada’s largest licensed marijuana producers, who have bragged for months about the potential for recreational weed and their ability to take advantage, the slow start will leave room to doubt their swollen market capitalizations. The notable supply issues in sales across Canada and the dearth of early revenue led executives to point fingers at the government and retail systems, but many still are having trouble expanding their own operations.

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Canopy Growth Corp. Chief Executive Bruce Linton blamed provincial buyers for lackluster sales. He said that none of the provinces placed big orders, preferring to make smaller purchases to test their supply infrastructure. Canopy said it had to destroy a number of pot crops during the September quarter because of delays acquiring processing licenses from Health Canada and slowness in building infrastructure, but in a written statement said it was not a material loss.


Indiva Inc. master grower Pete Young said that crop failures on that scale are likely the result of rapid expansion and not enough infrastructure or knowledge to go with it. “It’s not enough ability to handle their expansions,” he said. “We want to see the quality of the product, we want to see how good the product is.”

Several of the producers, including Tilray Inc. and CannTrust Holdings Inc., said they encountered production delays related to applying the federally mandated excise tax stamps onto the packages of pot as well. According to Tilray CEO Brendan Kennedy, there is only one company in Canada capable of applying the glue for the stamps properly.

Provinces and a private retailer offered a different assessment of the supply issues. James Burns, Chief Executive of Alcanna Inc. CLIQ, -1.42% which runs a chain of retail locations in Alberta, told MarketWatch last month that his stores had received about 40% of the pot they had ordered. Alcanna reported revenue of C$3.7 million from its five stores during the first 19 days of legalization. Burns said Alcanna had been declined to disclose which producer but said that one of the big names had a “gluing party” the weekend prior to Oct. 17 to apply stamps to packages.

Buyers for the Nova Scotia government-run cannabis store also said it had received about 40% of the product it ordered. The Ontario Cannabis Store, which is the only way Canadians in the country’s most populous province can buy pot, blamed cannabis companies for delivery delays, telling customers that products were not labeled correctly.

The tiny shipments of recreational weed were not a result of weak demand, as the major producers — and provincial governments across the country — said consumers wanted more product. Provincial websites selling pot ran out of numerous products and private bricks-and-mortar retailers have been desperate to acquire more inventory. In Quebec, the government-run stores have shut down for three days a week indefinitely because they cannot keep enough marijuana on the shelves.

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Even though provinces are essentially buying cannabis from any licensed producer that has capacity, Aurora Cannabis Inc. Chief Corporate Officer Cam Battley said that the company wasn’t yet in a position to move in where other companies have failed to deliver. Aurora scaled production to nearly 5,000 kilograms by the end of the quarter, four times what it could grow a year ago, but Aurora’s medical patients in Canada and Europe required roughly 2,700 kilograms.

“Remember that the medical market and the European market fetch us more dough, full stop,” Aurora CEO Terry Booth said in the conference call.

Tilray’s Kennedy said that the company is “aggressively scaling capacity” of its recreational cannabis. But until early November, one of the company’s largest facilities didn’t have the required federal licensing for the entirety of its cultivation area, limiting output.

“The slow start and rollout in adult-use across the country has been impacted by many factors including the timing of licenses, distribution of retail infrastructure,” Tilray Chief Financial Officer Mark Castaneda said. “We are not immune to these factors and they will impact our results.”

The lengthy process to obtain federal licenses from Health Canada has also caused headaches for cannabis companies aside from Tilray.

CannTrust CEO Peter Aceto said that provincial buyers were asking for product from “very very early days” and had been talking with all the major licensed producers to ask for replenishments as soon as possible. For product the government-run entities had ordered, it’s not clear buyers made the right choices, shortages aside — in some cases the stores ended up with products that met demand in large part because they weren’t as desirable as others that sold quickly.

“So I think [provinces] had a view that, [they] hadn’t got delivery of all the product they were hoping for and, believed that for what they had, the demand would be higher,” Aceto said.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Canopy said it had to destroy a number of pot crops during the September quarter because of delays acquiring processing licenses from Health Canada and slowness in building infrastructure, but in a written statement said it was not a material loss.
So they had to destroy a NUMBER of crops yet SOMEHOW it's not a material loss?...... This is the type of genius level reasoning thats leading to their VAST successes. Oh wait........
 

chex1111

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So? In general the big LP's are over producing and not able to get their product out to the stores. The export market is over estimated. The old stock that the LP's have is not all the greatest quality, especially compared to the dispensaries, so the City with pressure from the Fed is shutting down the competition.
Side note- Tilray is majority owned by Privateer Group inc. just learned that, thought I would pass it along.
BC just doesen't open any recreational stores- HAHA what a joke. They just didn't have time or know what to do? ok ok sure. Then the news is presenting the idea that theres a huge shortage because theres only one store in BC, they shut down the dispensaries and now theres line ups around the block.
The Government has created little exclusive white market business zones so they can cry shortage.
I went to a conference with CCI and Namaste a while ago and they're here talking about the big shortage. I ask why the price is at an all-time low when there is a big shortage- I'm told its unrelated.
So now its different markets is the ongoing talk, but the BM online sellers are still going for the online market so thats not that different in the world of commerce. What do you guys think? We are just getting into a bit of an uptick in the market around here, I think it has more to do with a sizable chunk of BM growers failing out last winter.
 

MedicatedHiker

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It's also fact that Koreans and some other asian countries in fact eat dog.Nothing was said about disliking Koreans from what I can see. Sorry facts seem offensive. On the internet of all places......
Please. The comment was meant to deface, not inform.

Facts, eh? Only older people eat dog. You might eat dog too if it was one of the only sources of protein available to you as a child because the country had been invaded by colonialists who exploited its ressources for their war machine.

They also don't eat puppies in Korea, buddy.

So, yeah, I have better facts. You know, correct ones.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Please. The comment was meant to deface, not inform.

Facts, eh? Only older people eat dog. You might eat dog too if it was one of the only sources of protein available to you as a child because the country had been invaded by colonialists who exploited its ressources for their war machine.

They also don't eat puppies in Korea, buddy.

So, yeah, I have better facts. You know, correct ones.
Aww snowflake it seems your reading comprehension is over shadowed by your pompous virtue signalling. SO much so you can't help but throw in colonialism in the mix. LOL. Where did I say puppy? I said dog. Gee go figure Id eat something if I was raised on it. Ya dont say? The original comment was clearly meant as humor. You know this thing thats subjective...... But please oh virtuous one go on..... Fucken SJW's
 

oldbeancounter

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.......and a korean eats it.
Sorry buddy,they prefer dogs mostly puppies way more tender.
MMMM, puppies...fire up the g
Aww snowflake it seems your reading comprehension is over shadowed by your pompous virtue signalling. SO much so you can't help but throw in colonialism in the mix. LOL. Where did I say puppy? I said dog. Gee go figure Id eat something if I was raised on it. Ya dont say? The original comment was clearly meant as humor. You know this thing thats subjective...... But please oh virtuous one go on..... Fucken SJW's
Please. The comment was meant to deface, not inform.

Facts, eh? Only older people eat dog. You might eat dog too if it was one of the only sources of protein available to you as a child because the country had been invaded by colonialists who exploited its ressources for their war machine.

They also don't eat puppies in Korea, buddy.

So, yeah, I have better facts. You know, correct ones.
MMMM, puppies...fire up the BBQ !!!
Just booked a flight and grabbed some BBQ sauce, Korea here come !
 

oldbeancounter

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It was a joke,if you’re going to hang out here maybe lighten up a bit,you seem very sensitive.,How do you I haven’t visited there? as my wife has slanted eyes.i am just not sure where she from,but I know they eat dogs too.
Wholly , I never considered that, opens a whole new dating pool me thinks!
Thanks Flash, off to call "cuz" up
 

MedicatedHiker

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It was a joke,if you’re going to hang out here maybe lighten up a bit,you seem very sensitive.,How do you I haven’t visited there? as my wife has slanted eyes.i am just not sure where she from,but I know they eat dogs too.
Your jokes are unimpressive.

Nice try avoiding that reality.
 
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