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CoB_nUt

CoB_nUt

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DDS. They have their feet set well,kept them in the solos a lol longer than I'd like, they need to be slowed down. Will be transplanted into their new shows tonight and topped tomorrow night.
I wanted to run them au natural,and clone before flower. I still need to slow them down a bit tho.
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#2 Short nodal spacing
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outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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mean i'm pretty sure bodhi encourages ppl to cross and/or work his lines to their liking, and to give back, and i've gotten for free from useful in the bodhi spirit to so... i don't really even see the issue tbh. as for the other part i don't see those ppl in here pointing fingers so imma assume they are cool with it and regardless i am pretty sure this is what forums have done since the dawn of forums...could be wrong tho
and excuse my ignorance but don't many breeders appreciate ppl holding onto and takign stuff to f2 and further for them, isn't this appreciated when the breeder cannot hold onto or further work a line they made?. i mean i have no info on the matter perosnally, but these are some scenarios that would make sense to me, and again given nobody else has raised a stink yet and his rollitup advisor status i would say it's not for us to really raise the question, unless you don't trust the forum itself and it's admins
 
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outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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macsnax said:
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what bodhi likes to see, he encourages it. Isn't most of his lines just f1's? He doesn't really continue working the same line, and with all his badass crosses there's a lot to be unlocked in the f2's alone.
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tbh i think the same goes for exotic, which he just used. they kinda one and done most of there stuff over a season to so that stuff is at high risk of vanishing, especially at those prices :/
 
macsnax

macsnax

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outliergenetix said:
tbh i think the same goes for exotic, which he just used. they kinda one and done most of there stuff over a season to so that stuff is at high risk of vanishing, especially at those prices :/
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Yeah to be honest I really respect what useful is doing. The Xmas bud, fruity pebbles, nu-be's dank sinatra f2's, etc. It's good to keep these going rather than letting them go forever.
 
Craigson

Craigson

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F2ing something for preservation is quite different than pollen chucking a couple males and females.
Id just like to see breeders put in real time and effort not just chuck n see what happens.
But hey, people will buy it so who the fack cares right?
 
GrowRijt

GrowRijt

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Craigson said:
F2ing something for preservation is quite different than pollen chucking a couple males and females.
Id just like to see breeders put in real time and effort not just chuck n see what happens.
But hey, people will buy it so who the fack cares right?
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My advice is if you want to see it done a certain way, then go do it. Don’t rely on other breeders to do things the way YOU want them. I told Heisenbro the same thing, and now he’s got a crappy logo and is giving out autos and running ads on here that go to a website w nothing on it. Lol. All because he wanted GPS to conform to his “standards”.

Bodhi wants everyone to breed with his gear. F2 it. Sell it. Give it away. He’s in India collecting land race goods and he could care less. Pollen chucking is breeding. Bodhi is a chucker at grand scale.

Useful is respectful, loves the plant, is open about his practices and has a killer vault. I support him and his hard farming ways. You should too.
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Craigson said:
F2ing something for preservation is quite different than pollen chucking a couple males and females.
Id just like to see breeders put in real time and effort not just chuck n see what happens.
But hey, people will buy it so who the fack cares right?
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i don't think you understand why open pollination is beneficial to preservation, and/or that some ppl are sepcifically looking for the xtra diversity in an f2 release but most breeders that you seem to like the style of don't sell f2's because the variation makes em look bad not like the hybrid vigor pimps many of them are. i will add tho open pollination isa bad term for it but the most accurate we have as we are the only indoor agriculture business i am aware of
are you suggesting if we don't select for certain traits by narrowing the breeding population we are doing it wrong? do you think we don't understand that many argue we should be selecting, splitting lines and recombining to new lines every 5th generation or so for preservation as opposed to open pollination?imo open pollination was a negative in the food industry because it was outdoors adn next to other farms, what we are doing is nothing like this and i think we should be allowed to breed a population how we see fit without criticism. i can speak for me only, but i see both sides of the coin. i feel like each breeding style or lack there of has it's benefits to those who understand them as well as the benefits fo things they maybe don't adhere to themselves. and let me add that i have no idea how useful selects or breeds i am saying even if you are right about how he does you are wrong that it is a negative imo. what we are doing here is heirlooming basically what you like is hybridizing. i think useful and ppl who do both gather here and it confuses you.
some ppl want f2s to dig back into each parental lineage, some ppl want hybrid crosses, some want ibl. i think you need to just realize that isn't a bad thing and trust maybe those ppl know their niche and what they are doing
 
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macsnax

macsnax

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Craigson said:
F2ing something for preservation is quite different than pollen chucking a couple males and females.
Id just like to see breeders put in real time and effort not just chuck n see what happens.
But hey, people will buy it so who the fack cares right?
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Name 10 breeders that are continually working the same lines into something stable. There's not many doing it, it takes a lot of time and effort. In the time it takes to make an ibl or bx, bodhi has dropped 20 more great crosses for people to do whatever they want with.
 
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