Need some seedling help.

[Daveindiego]

My seedlings are looking very sad.

T5 light is less than a foot off of them, trying to keep stretch to a minimum.

I was hoping to transplant to 3 gal pots, and sink the seedling a few inches deeper, but I’m not sure that these are going to make it to transplant.

Guidance appreciated.

 

[Daveindiego]

Pics are from 30 minutes after lights on.

 

[Lordhooha]

Pics are from 30 minutes after lights on.

I keep my 4 bulb 4 ft t5 about 5 inches or so from my seedlings.

 

[Kingrow1]

Water more frequently most likely, some have lost turgidity in the stems which should be impossible with adequate water.

 

[Way2-High]

Lower your light big time! They are stretching ALOT

 

[Way2-High]

If you can’t lower the light just raise the plants closer.

 

[crimsonecho]

Cut a straw lenghtwise, wrap it around your seedling and gently stick it into the soil a bit until you get the needed support. Be gentle dont hurt the roots. Bring your lights closer. When up potting bury the extra stems under soil.

 

[Way2-High]

Or just support them with soil around the base if you’re not comfortable with the straw method, definitely get them closer to the light though.

 

[Daveindiego]

Thanks!

 

[Daveindiego]

Light lowered, watered, and used some cocktail straws as crutches.

They shot up like a rocket.

 

[Daveindiego]

Mother of invention. I was going to make a new thread with this ‘idea’ I had, but I wmseem to remember people got upset about making multiple threads on a topic. Any rate, I hope this solves my problem. Thanks for your help guys!

 

[Daveindiego]

Serious question though, once a seedling droops as these have done, will that in any way negatively impact their growth long term, or hurt flower quality?

@Dr. Who

 

[Kipn]

id repot in a week and cover most that stem with medium. it will just mean more space for roots to grow along. id keep like half an inch above medium level of stem exposed

 

[Daveindiego]

id repot in a week and cover most that stem with medium. it will just mean more space for roots to grow along. id keep like half an inch above medium level of stem exposed

Definitely. I had been hoping I could repot this weekend, but that looks way too soon.

Is there a ‘tell’ for best time to transplant? Third leaf? 5th leaf? Something else?

 

[Kingrow1]

Definitely. I had been hoping I could repot this weekend, but that looks way too soon.

Is there a ‘tell’ for best time to transplant? Third leaf? 5th leaf? Something else?

Have you not completed enough grows to know when to transplant?

Transplant when the roots have filled the previous pot probably 2 weeks at a guess for you.

Did seedlings regain stem strength after watering/can you now remove stupid supports?

 

[Kipn]

Definitely. I had been hoping I could repot this weekend, but that looks way too soon.

Is there a ‘tell’ for best time to transplant? Third leaf? 5th leaf? Something else?

id do it now but to be on the save side i say wait a week

 

[Natethenewb]

My seedlings are looking very sad.

T5 light is less than a foot off of them, trying to keep stretch to a minimum.

I was hoping to transplant to 3 gal pots, and sink the seedling a few inches deeper, but I’m not sure that these are going to make it to transplant.

Guidance appreciated.

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There's a good thread on how to transplant the long stringy stems . step by step with pics. It's in the newbie central part of the forums. Highly recommend it helped me a few weeks ago.

 

[Flowki]

Invest in some small air pots, 1L or so and plant directly to those. Then you don't need to worry about transplanting too soon, you can leave them in those for weeks and even get the first round of topping done. If you are in no rush to reach max veg they also serve to bide time. You will end up with a very dense yet optimised root system in only a few weeks. From that point you can go direct to final pot easily. Way less hassle and better roots, less disturbed. A sure sign that you are ready to up pot to final (only attempt this with air prune pots) is when a daily watering is no longer enough to stop wilting. However if you were automated or didn't mind feeding twice a day you could continue in the small pot but size would likely start to become limited then, compared to up potting.

 

[Daveindiego]

Have you not completed enough grows to know when to transplant?

Transplant when the roots have filled the previous pot probably 2 weeks at a guess for you.

Did seedlings regain stem strength after watering/can you now remove stupid supports?

Settle down, grow master, I think this is my third of fourth time with seeds.

Maybe you should post at a master grower site, instead of a hobby grower site. You don’t seem to have much patience. Not too mention your advice being questionable. They hadn’t been watered enough? They had been watered 4 out of the previous 5 days. I think that they had been watered too much to be honest.

 

[Daveindiego]

Invest in some small air pots, 1L or so and plant directly to those. Then you don't need to worry about transplanting too soon, you can leave them in those for weeks and even get the first round of topping done. If you are in no rush to reach max veg they also serve to bide time. You will end up with a very dense yet optimised root system in only a few weeks. From that point you can go direct to final pot easily. Way less hassle and better roots, less disturbed. A sure sign that you are ready to up pot to final (only attempt this with air prune pots) is when a daily watering is no longer enough to stop wilting. However if you were automated or didn't mind feeding twice a day you could continue in the small pot but size would likely start to become limited then, compared to up potting.

Thanks.

What would you up pot to from a 1l pot? I typically use 3 gallon pots.