Nannners, Seeds, Seeds Sex

Smithy1

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Basically i had 4 plants in a 1x2 1x2 2m tent umder a 600hps,

Anyway 4 weeks into flower i noticed nanners growinf out the buds i just thought i could tweezer them off u til i opened a bud and seen loads off them so i chopped it 5 weeks,

Trouble is seed pods are growing on my other 3 plants, I have checked all over for nanners and there is none just these seeds ive even picked a few off a they are 100% seeds.

They are all 7 weeks into flower comimg up in 2 days,


Question is i know for a fact ill end up with some seeds,


But heres the question i need answering, Will the seeds be female? Or Hermie seeds? And no point in growimg them.
 

Dr. Who

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Female seeds. Herming increase? Possible for sure.

Pitch them or try a cpl....If they herm, pitch!

Keep in mind that there is a faction of growers that prefer to smoke seeded weed.
Seeded weed contains a few more canabinoid compounds that unseeded doesn't..... Debate is if they do anything to change the buzz.
 

Kingrow1

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They will be female, no such thing as hermie seeds, a myth created by noobs that never understood genetics.

When your on your twentieth grow this will become very apparent as you stop getting herms with strains that hermed on your first few grows.

Ignore the hype :-)
 

OldMedUser

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I'd never bother sprouting seeds that came from plants that threw 'nanners early in flowering. Just end up with more plants that do the same.

If a female is allowed to go past her crop-by date and then throws 'nanners that pollen would be worth keeping and should make fem seeds if used on other females. That's the way many still make fem seeds.

Early herming is an undesirable trait so should not be passed on thru further breeding.
 

Smithy1

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They will be female, no such thing as hermie seeds, a myth created by noobs that never understood genetics.

When your on your twentieth grow this will become very apparent as you stop getting herms with strains that hermed on your first few grows.

Ignore the hype :-)

Lovellyyy, ill let them mature a bit more until they burst out the pods, They are mainly on the lower bottoms buds not on the huge colas ive topped each plant 2 times, I've only got another 2 weeks off growimg anyway until they finish the White Widows are 9 week flower and im comimg into week 7 so i imagine the seeds will off burst open by then,

The last remaining plant off Royal Cheese is smelling and looking beautiful it is a 8 weeker so going to flush for a week , So i might aswell let them grow out its just a shame the other royal cheese hermied on me and pollinated the other 3 , Anyway Great advice as always kinggrow1.

Ill PM you pics when ive trimmed them.
 

Smithy1

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Female seeds. Herming increase? Possible for sure.

Pitch them or try a cpl....If they herm, pitch!

Keep in mind that there is a faction of growers that prefer to smoke seeded weed.
Seeded weed contains a few more canabinoid compounds that unseeded doesn't..... Debate is if they do anything to change the buzz.

At first i was pitching the seeds out but i thought F*ck it i might as well let the plants grow out and at least ill have a harvest, Such a shame to i researched everything before i started to grow bought a decent tent bought the full range off canna nutes and 2 bags off canna coco coir and i mixed some perlite in there to, Also bought decent seeds from a good breeder (Royal Queen Seeds) Spent a small fortune on it , So these plants have had the best off treatment and they turn on me lol Plus there was no light leaks i asked the missus to lock me in the tent and turn the light off in the room and not a beam off light came through i coudnt see my arm in front off me lol

Anyway at least ill have something to smoke, Im already planning my second grow in the tent ive bought 5 White Widows off Sensi Seeds ive heard good thing about them.

Cheers for the advice:D
 

Smithy1

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I'd never bother sprouting seeds that came from plants that threw 'nanners early in flowering. Just end up with more plants that do the same.

If a female is allowed to go past her crop-by date and then throws 'nanners that pollen would be worth keeping and should make fem seeds if used on other females. That's the way many still make fem seeds.

Early herming is an undesirable trait so should not be passed on thru further breeding.
They started to grow nanners at about 4 weeks in flower i noticed, At first there was only a few and i was just pinching them off with tweezers but as the days went on they where growing more then i took a bud apart from the top off the plant and there was loads growing inside so i took it got chopped week 5 and its currently drying in my loft lol
 

Smithy1

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Another thing how long do you guys flush for? Ive read that many people do flush and many people dont?? So im a little confused.
 

smokebros

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Optic foilar makes a product called "switch", I think it could greatly benefit you.

https://growershouse.com/optic-foliar-switch-reverse-nutrient


Here's a copy/paste of the product description:


Optic Foliar SWITCH allows your plants to transition into bloom, by preventing and combating key stress factors that can delay the formation of bloom sets.

By utilizing Optic Foliar SWITCH early in the first 2 weeks of bloom; growers are then able to ensure that their plants will begin to form flower sites and maximize flower growth. Optic Foliar Switch Nutrient has been shown to stop male flower maturity in plants that exhibit male traits i.e., hermaphroditic plants. Optic Foliar Switch has a fast reversal of action against already existing male flowers in addition to preventing male flowers from forming.

Optic Foliar SWITCH assures no loss in growth, quality or yield!
 

BurtMaklin

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1. To check for light leaks stay in your tent for a full 15 mins. It takes that long for your eyes to adjust to the darkness, if you still can't see your hand in front of your face, you're good.

2. Canna has a really good lineup that can be used, in most cases, at 1/2 strength. Sometimes over doing it with nitrogen in flower will make plants unhappy, especially with sativa doms and unhappy plants show intersex traits. So can drying them out too much, heat stress, etc... Start out at half or less strength, and if you see yellowing, bump it up a bit. I used canna for 15 years before going no till. Never had to use more than half strength. Ever.

3. When you cut down your plants, you will likely see fully open male flowers hidden really close to the main bud stem, sometimes they can be very hard to spot.

Hope this helps.

Good luck!!
 

BudmanTX

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At first i was pitching the seeds out but i thought F*ck it i might as well let the plants grow out and at least ill have a harvest, Such a shame to i researched everything before i started to grow bought a decent tent bought the full range off canna nutes and 2 bags off canna coco coir and i mixed some perlite in there to, Also bought decent seeds from a good breeder (Royal Queen Seeds) Spent a small fortune on it , So these plants have had the best off treatment and they turn on me lol Plus there was no light leaks i asked the missus to lock me in the tent and turn the light off in the room and not a beam off light came through i coudnt see my arm in front off me lol

Anyway at least ill have something to smoke, Im already planning my second grow in the tent ive bought 5 White Widows off Sensi Seeds ive heard good thing about them.

Cheers for the advice:D
shit dude, play with seeds you get from this grow and have fun. Nothing like free seeds. I'm running a batch now......look up Rodelization when u get a chance.....
 

OldMedUser

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Another thing how long do you guys flush for? Ive read that many people do flush and many people dont?? So im a little confused.
I don't do any flush but just water with RO the last week or so. I'll cut back to very low feeding after week 6 on a 9 week plant. Flushing does not remove anything from the plants but does from the medium they are growing in.
 

Smithy1

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shit dude, play with seeds you get from this grow and have fun. Nothing like free seeds. I'm running a batch now......look up Rodelization when u get a chance.....
Man i took all my plants down last week and shitttt i have 3 nippy bags fulls off seeds i dare say i have over a 100, I hope they are feminized. They are white widow seeds and royal cheese from royal queen seeds.
 

Smithy1

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Plus i still dont know wether these 100s off seeds i have are female or just plain and fucked up herm seeds if i sprout them and grow them. All still a little confusing with this been my second grow and being a noob.
 

BudmanTX

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Grow them, have fun with it. This way you get more experience. That's the way i look at it. Seems weird but it hell of fun to do. I will tell you this though. I've been running the seeds after mine went. So far so good, they have all been female. You chances are high in that respect. Just don't stress them out to much and you'll be fine. Gotta love a good crap shoot...
 

curious2garden

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Another thing how long do you guys flush for? Ive read that many people do flush and many people dont?? So im a little confused.
I'm in 50/50 coco perlite as are you. There is no reason to starve your plants as you approach harvest. Flushing in hydro is to remove excess salt build up. I do it every 2 weeks in flower (one day instead of food they get flushed with my 250 PPM tap water until I get a lot of run off) then food the next day. I feed mine until the trichomes are mostly cloudy then harvest.

Breeder's estimates of flower time are not specific to the plants you are growing, just a ballpark figure. So get a loupe or handheld scope and watch your trichomes.

How your bud tastes depends on drying.

Plus i still dont know wether these 100s off seeds i have are female or just plain and fucked up herm seeds if i sprout them and grow them. All still a little confusing with this been my second grow and being a noob.
There are no such things as herm seeds. All cannabis carries the tendency to hermaphrodism as a survival strategy. We utilize this trait with CS, STS or Rodelization to 'self' a plant and produce all female seeds. Therefore the seeds you have are simply female seeds.

Will they have a greater tendency to reverse sex? Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. The only way to find out is to grow them. Sometimes as you increase your grow experience you will realize how you stressed them and produced the reverse. Some plants are simply more aggressive with this trait. It depends on how you feel about seeds.

Good luck with your grow.
 
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rsvp_gardens

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Another thing how long do you guys flush for? Ive read that many people do flush and many people dont?? So im a little confused.
I start flushing by the end of week six. And by start flushing I mean I remove everything except p-k and a carb. Everything is removed by the end of week seven and just feeding plain water until they stop uptake.
 

Smithy1

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I'm in 50/50 coco perlite as are you. There is no reason to starve your plants as you approach harvest. Flushing in hydro is to remove excess salt build up. I do it every 2 weeks in flower (one day instead of food they get flushed with my 250 PPM tap water until I get a lot of run off) then food the next day. I feed mine until the trichomes are mostly cloudy then harvest.

Breeder's estimates of flower time are not specific to the plants you are growing, just a ballpark figure. So get a loupe or handheld scope and watch your trichomes.

How your bud tastes depends on drying.



There are no such things as herm seeds. All cannabis carries the tendency to hermaphrodism as a survival strategy. We utilize this trait with CS, STS or Rodelization to 'self' a plant and produce all female seeds. Therefore the seeds you have are simply female seeds.

Will they have a greater tendency to reverse sex? Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. The only way to find out is to grow them. Sometimes as you increase your grow experience you will realize how you stressed them and produced the reverse. Some plants are simply more aggressive with this trait. It depends on how you feel about seeds.

Good luck with your grow.

Ive finished my current grow and im currently buying the coco for my next grow inhave bought 3 white widow fem seeds off Sensi Seeds so ill be growing them even though ive got a fair few seeds off white widow off these and royal cheese to, Im going to grow 2 off the Royal Cheese beans that these plants have left me with see how they go so ill have 5 plants in my 1x2 1x2 200 tent in a few weeks the white widow i bought to, Ive ordered the Soil with perilite mixed in 70 % Coco and 30% Perlite,

This stuff it saves me mixing the perilite, in, https://www.growell.co.uk/growing-media/coco/50l-tropic-70-30-cocomix.html,

Ive ordered 2 bags off it ive heard good stuff to.

Got all me nutes to the full canna range again so they are getting the best off hopefully this grow is better.
 

curious2garden

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Ive finished my current grow and im currently buying the coco for my next grow inhave bought 3 white widow fem seeds off Sensi Seeds so ill be growing them even though ive got a fair few seeds off white widow off these and royal cheese to, Im going to grow 2 off the Royal Cheese beans that these plants have left me with see how they go so ill have 5 plants in my 1x2 1x2 200 tent in a few weeks the white widow i bought to, Ive ordered the Soil with perilite mixed in 70 % Coco and 30% Perlite,

This stuff it saves me mixing the perilite, in, https://www.growell.co.uk/growing-media/coco/50l-tropic-70-30-cocomix.html,

Ive ordered 2 bags off it ive heard good stuff to.

Got all me nutes to the full canna range again so they are getting the best off hopefully this grow is better.
Every grow you learn and so every grow is better in one way or another.
 

Palmerrdgrower

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Another thing how long do you guys flush for? Ive read that many people do flush and many people dont?? So im a little confused.
It’s all up to you. I feed until chop but I only feed half strength nutrients. I find most of my strains bulk up the last two weeks so I don’t wanna starve them.
 
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