SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Tstat

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Down with the French aristocracy's Idea of wealth!!! (i.e. lawns)
Haha, I hear ya. I wish I lived in the woods. I have dogs, so most of my backyard is dirt. I also have a pool on the other side, so the garden would be the only place grass could grow. Unless I let the dogs on it, lol.

I never have luck here with cukes, they turn orange or just suck really bad. I’d love it if I could grow good cukes in one of these!
 

Tim Fox

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I actually said to my wife this morning that I was going to grab the 10 pack of Growboxes for a $90 savings and use a few out on the deck this summer. I’m thinking a couple of tomatoes, some cukes, peppers, and some herbs (basil, dill, etc.). I might do two MMJs out here as well. I do have a regular soil garden, but my wife wants grass there, so maybe these can replace it.

It’s only $300 for 10 and free shipping :)
Dude did you see my six foot tall tomato plants in my earthbox on this thread the sips rock the veggies
 

Tim Fox

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Actually no I used to Same soil , but I switched to a dry organic tomato nute and still did a nute trench as well as mixed into the soil
 

MustangStudFarm

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So, I got 4x Earthboxes delivered to my door yesterday. I was going to try them out before I completely switch. Some reason, I thought that the Earthbox was only 1cuft(8gal) but they are 2x that size... I feel like I am cheating on this first round because I bought everything from the store and I am DIY person. What I mean is that I bought the Earthbox, EM1, GroKashi, and Malibu compost. I was making my own Grokashi, but I put it in my worm bin because they LOVE it and it created thermal compost during the cold days.
Anyways, I should be on board with everyone soon enough! I've been having my soil tested and it seems like I should be having better results? Maybe, I just need to supercharge my soil with microbes(SIP Box). I've been told that red wheat bran, azomite, and greensand all have a good amount of Mn. I treated my soil with Mn, Fe, and Zn sulfate but I need a slow release also. I think that it is the high P that drives the micronutrients down.
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MustangStudFarm

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I re run all my soil and do all that live crap (-; so far so good and i am on I think the third or so run I dont know I have a bunch in cycles now as I re amend and re add bacteria and worms and let the amendments be broken down into usable materials for the plants by the microbes and worms. It is almost like at this point I am growing the SOIL and the plants on the top are the best vestigial thing ever!
Man, I had one of my best harvest back in 2016 when I first got into composting. I had some serious dumb luck apparently! I spent the last couple of years trying to figure what I did right and wrong. The biggest "wrong" that I did was using rock phosphate. My compost gave me 1 good run before it went to shit and I think that it was the P breaking down. I realize now that I get more than enough P from my compost! I recently figured out that one of the biggest "rights" that I did on that compost was azomite and greensand. My compost is always low in Mn, Fe, and Zn. So, greensand and azomite are probably the key pieces that I have been missing. I realize now that I want to keep the N low and K high. It takes greensand so long to break down though. Sorry for rambling.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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Man, I had one of my best harvest back in 2016 when I first got into composting. I had some serious dumb luck apparently! I spent the last couple of years trying to figure what I did right and wrong. The biggest "wrong" that I did was using rock phosphate. My compost gave me 1 good run before it went to shit and I think that it was the P breaking down. I realize now that I get more than enough P from my compost! I recently figured out that one of the biggest "rights" that I did on that compost was azomite and greensand. My compost is always low in Mn, Fe, and Zn. So, greensand and azomite are probably the key pieces that I have been missing. I realize now that I want to keep the N low and K high. It takes greensand so long to break down though. Sorry for rambling.
i was going to say that exact thing about the greensand it takes FOREVER.. and I think that adding the EM 1 and grokashi to the top layer is really going to take stuff to the next level for me. Hopefully it is the same for you!
 

Jesselikes2grow

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Man, I had one of my best harvest back in 2016 when I first got into composting. I had some serious dumb luck apparently! I spent the last couple of years trying to figure what I did right and wrong. The biggest "wrong" that I did was using rock phosphate. My compost gave me 1 good run before it went to shit and I think that it was the P breaking down. I realize now that I get more than enough P from my compost! I recently figured out that one of the biggest "rights" that I did on that compost was azomite and greensand. My compost is always low in Mn, Fe, and Zn. So, greensand and azomite are probably the key pieces that I have been missing. I realize now that I want to keep the N low and K high. It takes greensand so long to break down though. Sorry for rambling.
Im a way bigger rambler than you. Lol. More info/details the better i say. I always want to know the why some thing does or doesn't work. Not just that it does or doesn't. Without the details added that's not possible. I've been reading your stuff in various threads for awhile now, seems we frequent alot of the same threads. Your details of things going on have brought up many an interesting discussion ive learned things from. All good stuff man. Ramble away, ill join ya. LMFAO
 

Jesselikes2grow

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i was going to say that exact thing about the greensand it takes FOREVER.. and I think that adding the EM 1 and grokashi to the top layer is really going to take stuff to the next level for me. Hopefully it is the same for you!
I fully agree about the greensand. It's def part of a long term soil health plan. The greensand is for us rols guys for sure with how long it takes.
 

MustangStudFarm

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Im a way bigger rambler than you. Lol. More info/details the better i say. I always want to know the why some thing does or doesn't work. Not just that it does or doesn't. Without the details added that's not possible. I've been reading your stuff in various threads for awhile now, seems we frequent alot of the same threads. Your details of things going on have brought up many an interesting discussion ive learned things from. All good stuff man. Ramble away, ill join ya. LMFAO
Man, I feel like I am close to a breakthrough but it just hasn't happened yet. The last soil test that I shown is my recent test. While I was waiting to get the test results back, my plants were suffering and started showing spots. That is common in Mn def. However, as soon as I added Mn, Zn, and Fe sulfate the plants started to grow again.

What I am saying is that I am by no means an expert, just a guy that is on a search for information. I still have more failure than success. I say this but everyone in Okla says that my smoke is way better than dispensary, but nobody wants to listen when I talk organic. The only thing that I am lacking is yield, I'm only getting 1/2 of what I should be. It's been for different reasons too, but I think that is because I kept switching my method. I think that I will just stick with my high P compost and learn how to just deal with it!!! It keeps locking out micronutrients.
 

MustangStudFarm

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I fully agree about the greensand. It's def part of a long term soil health plan. The greensand is for us rols guys for sure with how long it takes.
Greensand appears to be the missing puzzle piece and I only recently started using it again. I just got lucky with my 1st compost that I added it in. I understand it better now. The creator of the Soil Savvy test(one I use) said that the only difference for cannabis on the test is the K levels. He said that K should be 2x the recommended amount for cannabis. I realized that my only source of K was kelp and that was giving me high Na. I read that kelp could give you up to 3x the amount of Na to K. Kelp didn't help with my Mn problem either.
 
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