New Zealand to change gun laws

[UncleBuck]

you said people would be killed for not paying the obamacare fines for moochers.

has a single person even been jailed for it?

just want to check in on this claim of yours because you are 100% full of shit and just want to make sure your record of never being right about anything remains intact

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

She's Italian (that's all that the Irish male will marry because the Irish women remind them of their miserable mothers ), so she showed me the straight Razor that had been handed down thru the generations in her Family, given from each mother to their daughter on their Wedding Night, to show the poor fool that married her, that she would, with glee, do a Bobbitt on him.

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No shit, at least in my case

that's a beauty, Donovan straight razors are $175.00 and up, new, and that looks like an antique....

 

[Lucky Luke]

So you favor using some guns to enforce regulating some other guns then ?

Why would they need guns to enforce laws for? I've been booked for speeding and traffic offences over the decades and no officer has ever pulled their gun on me.

 

[scumrot derelict]

"Anyone who is being investigated by the FBI isn't qualified to be President." - Donald Trump

Why would they need guns to enforce laws for? I've been booked for speeding and traffic offences over the decades and no officer has ever pulled their gun on me.

Hello, your honor, I'd like to turn myself in for speeding. I was doing 68 in a 65!

 

[Fogdog]

The laws are the morality of the people who created them. Universal law, domestic law. These are not entities that exist seperate from humanity. These laws are not everlasting and are in no way placed by a fictional character like god. We humans thru ages distilled a brew which we call civilization. The concept of civilization includes in itself, our sense of right and wrong.

You know no action in the world is inherently right of wrong. The universe and everything in it just exists. When people tried to create some order out of this chaos they created rules. These rules are the morality of that community. I’m really talkin about morality in a much broader sense. Morality is made up but, after a lot of generations and great philosopher and shitty politicians and countless atrocities, we arrived at a definition of what civilization is so, if we want to live in a truly civilized world we should lift the treat of violence over the people. That should be the next step. Thats my views on the subject.

Laws and public policy based upon morality are fine, I guess. Just as long as I'm the one making it all up and everybody just goes along.

If you are going to enforce your beliefs upon me then you had better be ready to explain why it makes sense or you'll have a fight on your hands.

This is why public policy based upon facts and reason makes for a better society. You can't give a good reason why hunters and ranchers in remote areas must give up their guns. You simply insist upon it because it's the right thing to do. You are failing to make a good argument and simply repeating circular logic.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

just want to check in on this claim of yours because you are 100% full of shit and just want to make sure your record of never being right about anything remains intact

Well, that's a lock.

Even the bookies won't offer odds on intellectual dishonesty, the basis for his every post.

 

[Lucky Luke]

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Hello, your honor, I'd like to turn myself in for speeding. I was doing 68 in a 65!

once I got caught after a police chase. Clocked at 270kmh in a 110 zone. Was going faster at stages. Ended up getting charged for 15klmh and under. Nice copper and a Bussa owner.
No gun drawn..

 

[crimsonecho]

Laws and public policy based upon morality are fine, I guess. Just as long as I'm the one making it all up and everybody just goes along.

If you are going to enforce your beliefs upon me then you had better be ready to explain why it makes sense or you'll have a fight on your hands.

This is why public policy based upon facts and reason makes for a better society. You can't give a good reason why hunters and ranchers in remote areas must give up their guns. You simply insist upon it because it's the right thing to do. You are failing to make a good argument and simply repeating circular logic.

Still not what i’m saying and this conversation has become incredibly repetitive to me. Maybe if i ever get this shit on paper, i’ll send it to you and you can read. These bits and pieces may not create a meaningful structure in your mind as we don’t share a brain and for me to explain my every sentence referencing to the philosophy or the theory its is based upon, would be very time consuming in this case. So i will tolerate your point of view and you will tolerate mine. Thats it. No one needs to change their opinions to suit mine. I’m fine with it.

 

[Fogdog]

Still not what i’m saying and this conversation has become incredibly repetitive to me. Maybe if i ever get this shit on paper, i’ll send it to you and you can read. These bits and pieces may not create a meaningful structure in your mind as we don’t share a brain and for me to explain my every sentence referencing to the philosophy or the theory its is based upon, would be very time consuming in this case. So i will tolerate your point of view and you will tolerate mine. Thats it. No one needs to change their opinions to suit mine. I’m fine with it.

Like I said. I'm all for morality as the basis of public policy just as long as I'm calling the shots.

 

[Lucky Luke]

from a random country to give advise to the greatest country in the free world LMFAO

pfft, I'm from Australia and its easily the greatest country in the free world. Easily.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Nope I just point to failed countries like Russia and rejoice

You do realize that Russia is very, very old..and is also very, very rich. The under ground railroads are beautiful.Its far from a failed country.
Old countries have swings and roundabouts.. Look at every country that's once been a world superpower. Just they way it goes.

 

[Lucky Luke]

sure....you did see where i said ten million people own half the guns...how do you "just take away" 10 million armed people's weapons? some of them may comply, but even if 90% willingly give them up, you still have a million heavily armed individuals to disarm...that's where the "Viable" thing comes into play...try harder.
it's easy to be glib...just do this...just do that....except this and that are stupid and will never work...come up with a VIABLE ANSWER

Same way Australia did. .
It might be why the aussie went to NZ to do the attack- It was simply easier to get hold of a legal weapon their than an illegal one here.

 

[Lucky Luke]

guns are not bad. people are bad. preventing people from legally owning them this is a good thing but i will never stop people for getting them. in Australia most people cant legally own or buy guns but people still get shot so clearly its only a prevention not a solution

I don't know what planet you are on but we don't want to stop people legally owning guns or make it hard or costly.
Guns are fairly easy to own in Australia. Its just Assault type weapons and large mags etc are illegal. Logical stuff. Weapons must also be stored in certified gun lockers and spot inspections can and do happen. usually without a fine in the advent of a failed visit. Vast majority of gun owners know they have a responsibility to keep the weapon secure. My fire arm owning friends all seem to support the rules and most think the storage regulations should be better in regard to securing lockers etc.
A friend of mine drove from Canberra to Tasmania a few weeks ago with quiet a few weapons in the car, easy paper work which is free of cause and into lock up on the ferry. He is happy they are safe and secure for the trip and got to bullshit gun stuff with the people who checked them in.
Hindering legal owners and weapons is bad- They are not doing anything wrong.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Then I imagine you have some Irish in you, because we built that fking wasteland

what a weird thing to say.. The oldest living race on earth might think you ruined their paradise.

 

[Rob Roy]

Why would they need guns to enforce laws for? I've been booked for speeding and traffic offences over the decades and no officer has ever pulled their gun on me.

So you are saying that the enactment of a law carries such mystical power that once the law is on the books it becomes self enforcing and guns will never be used to enforce the law ?

That's really cute.

 

[Rob Roy]

Well, that's a lock.

Even the bookies won't offer odds on intellectual dishonesty, the basis for his every post.

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to go thru life always being the smart, kind, well endowed and handsome guy?

(Rhetorical question. Of course , you don't.)

 

[Jimdamick]

pfft, I'm from Australia and its easily the greatest country in the free world. Easily.

And you can thank the Irish for it (your welcome )

 

[Jimdamick]

once I got caught after a police chase. Clocked at 270kmh in a 110 zone. Was going faster at stages. Ended up getting charged for 15klmh and under. Nice copper and a Bussa owner.
No gun drawn..

If you were Black while Driving in America and committed that infraction, you probably would have been shot dead upon exiting your vehicle.

 

[scumrot derelict]

And you can thank the Irish for it (your welcome )

I would like to formally thank Ireland and it's native residents for influencing the greatest band in American history.

We love to fight, but you made it an art. Bless.

 

[Jimdamick]

pfft, I'm from Australia and its easily the greatest country in the free world. Easily.

And even the music, you owe to the Irish.

All bands listed have Irish roots, and fuck the English