HLG vs HGL Side By Side

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 68 90.7%

  • HydroGrow

    Votes: 7 9.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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HydroGrowLED

HydroGrowLED

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hybridway2 said:
Cam, i do feel you may have cut yourself a lil short by sending these compact panels over the Pro-Bar design. Did you research anything out now or just come on here mad confident winging it? Props either way. Just saying, youre going up against a superior light spread.
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I'm only responding because you (the OP) addressed me. I'd rather sit as a silent bystander for the majority of this test and let you (and our lights) have the spotlight.

What's there to research when competitors are using white light? It doesn't matter if it's MH, CFL, LED, etc... white is white and it's been around for decades. Your MH also has a superior light spread to ours, with higher average PAR at 24" where you're using it. And yet...?

hybridway2 said:
I will say, her plants are growing at an enormous rate you can tell when growth is forcing itself out cuz it needs out. Lol! Killing thr MH w/i the coverage area.
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These graphs are both a 4x4 area, but the MH simply had more measurement points (every 4" instead of 6"):

So if the white MH has far more even coverage, higher PPFD and what some consider a "veg spectrum", then why is my little RGB light killing it within its covered area? By your own experience now (in just a few days) you should be starting to say to yourself "holy crap, maybe she is right about spectrum". And if I'm right about spectrum, I must be right about several other things as well.

It doesn't take my best product line to beat the competition when the competition doesn't rely on science. I know my white-label product will beat them just fine. Your plants will be growing even faster when you follow my recommendations. If you bought the lights and didn't follow my advice that's your prerogative, but I supplied them free of charge on the premise that they be used as directed. What's the harm in listening to the manufacturer/inventor of the product? I'm not questioning your growing skills, but rather instructing you on how to get the best results with our product. I'd appreciate a bit of respect in that regard.
 
lukio

lukio

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sethimus said:
Can you answer the question about the 1.7g/W
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sup, they answered me in DM.

"I do not plan on doing much posting in HybridWay's thread, as I don't want to detract from what he is doing with a bunch of questions about our products, tests, etc... I want the focus to be on him and his test.
The 1.7 GPW grow was not using autos. It was a mix of Strawberry Cough X White Rhino and AK47 plants. "

and sent me these vids

1.7gpw-

1.3gpw

i dont believe their claims for one second and i run osram blurples and loadsa quantum boards - have done for years.

I'd put a lot of money on it all being bullshit. Theres no way this kiddy has the magic formula - he'd be a billionaire and sipping on rum on some island somewhere...not sharing shitty grows from newb growers.

I hope the grow goes well but if i were Hybrid, i wouldnt be wasting my time and space
 
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TEKNIK

TEKNIK

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They look like alibaba lights because they are alibaba lights. Hybridway2 don't fall for the trap that they are American made because they actually admitted to me that they are not. I am not sure what hlg are sending you but if it is anything like a quantum board then this is not a fair test.
Regardless of that hlg should come out the winner. The plants under the hgl will become stringy and you will see that in the flowing stages due to the over powered 660nm. There is a very good reason fluence didn't use a spectrum like this and that's because in a real farm environment there is too many issues. This test is also strain dependent too. Some strains do much better under heavy reds and I have noted that several times. My issue with hgl isn't the lights, it's how they behave and how they claim they are American made when they are in fact just a basic $200 alibaba light, this is why they refuse to show a sphere test as a sphere test does determine cost price of things. If people want to pay 8X the cost for a light then hgl has done a good job in terms of being a salesman.
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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teknik..you may know about lights
where they are made and cost

stick to that please

you may not have much hands on from growing hard to grow long flower sativas
with leds...or anything.. for that matter,
you have given us zero photos

so stick to science

not grow predictions

don't argue this..just let it unfold

you would be surprised with what i have seen from inefficiency burples
 
hillbill

hillbill

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“White is white and it’s been around for decades.” Cannot imagine a person in the lighting business saying this. No k ratings, no cri, no nothing. No warm white or daylight or cool white bulbs. All the same spectrum. White is white?

all blurple is blurple.
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

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hillbill said:
“White is white and it’s been around for decades.” Cannot imagine a person in the lighting business saying this. No k ratings, no cri, no nothing. No warm white or daylight or cool white bulbs. All the same spectrum. White is white?

all blurple is blurple.
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I dissagree. Much so actually.
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

Amare Shill
hillbill said:
Which four words? Being a bit sArcastic on the blurple as in the far distant past I had several breeds of them.
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Naw, i just mean each specific one will give you different results in the garden in one form or another. But yeah, i get your drift.
 
hillbill

hillbill

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hybridway2 said:
Naw, i just mean each specific one will give you different results in the garden in one form or another. But yeah, i get your drift.
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Guess I’ve been having a lighted garden for over a decade and am fascinated by all the advances in lighting tech and am maybe a wee bit envious of some of those of your sort.bongsmilie
That’s actually a Arizer Solo I’m pulling on!
 
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Ryante55

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hillbill said:
“White is white and it’s been around for decades.” Cannot imagine a person in the lighting business saying this. No k ratings, no cri, no nothing. No warm white or daylight or cool white bulbs. All the same spectrum. White is white?

all blurple is blurple.
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Right? Has she ever been outside? I would say the white light from the sun does a good job growing haha
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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sethimus said:
@HydroGrowLED Can you answer the question about the 1.7g/W grow being an auto grow or not? and if the answer is yes, what was the g/kWh? i remember back in the day those AFN guys circle jerk each other for their 20-24h light per day results while ignoring their energy use to achieve these
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Yep, I remember tangpang, best auto grower I've seen on the interwebzzzz ==20/4 flower schedule, grow northern would send him all their new shit. I would've too.
 
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