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[biggysquals]

Gmo garlic cookies, 7gal pots, pro mix, botanicare silica blast @ 5 mil per gal, canna bio @8 mil per gal, canna bio rhiz @ 8 mil per gal, gh cal mag @ 2.5 mil per gal, mammoth p @ .6 mil per gal, alternating between 1/2 teaspoon of real growers recharge per gal and compost tea in a box at suggested mix rate. Watering approx every 4 days. Temps are 80 to 83. Humidity is approx 70% 1260 watts ceramic metal halide approx 24” above canopy with co2

 

[Herb & Suds]

Are you leaving that plant in its own runoff...not good?

 

[biggysquals]

Are you leaving that plant in its own runoff...not good?

Just watered when I took pics

 

[Herb & Suds]

Just watered when I took pics

Right but if you allow runoff to remain it screws up your salt and fert intake

 

[Logan Burke]

I see what appears to be canoeing in those very upper leaves?...For the time being, until you solve this problem, try to keep those temps down a little bit...for a healthy plant, 80-85 is fine (not perfect, but alright). For a sick plant, that's only going to add to it's issues. It sounds like you're adding a ton of additives...I haven't used any of the ones you're using, but I'm guessing that the source of your problem is going to lie in all of the additives you're applying. I grow in DWC and I don't use that many nutrients, lol.

 

[hotrodharley]

Gmo garlic cookies, 7gal pots, pro mix, botanicare silica blast @ 5 mil per gal, canna bio @8 mil per gal, canna bio rhiz @ 8 mil per gal, gh cal mag @ 2.5 mil per gal, mammoth p @ .6 mil per gal, alternating between 1/2 teaspoon of real growers recharge per gal and compost tea in a box at suggested mix rate. Watering approx every 4 days. Temps are 80 to 83. Humidity is approx 70% 1260 watts ceramic metal halide approx 24” above canopy with co2

Are you using RO water? What is the base EC/PPM of your water? You’re feeding too much unnecessary crap. If using tap water you need to know your base. The water utility will have the reports online. You need to know before regular cal mag is given. Excess calcium can cause lockout. The majority of hardness in tap water is usually calcium carbonate. If RO you still don’t need to use every feeding.

 

[biggysquals]

Are you using RO water? What is the base EC/PPM of your water? You’re feeding too much unnecessary crap. If using tap water you need to know your base. The water utility will have the reports online. You need to know before regular cal mag is given. Excess calcium can cause lockout. The majority of hardness in tap water is usually calcium carbonate. If RO you still don’t need to use every feeding.

Need to purchase a new ppm meter plan of flushing with slf 100 and watering with just base nutes(no cal mag) after they dry out hopefully a fresh start will help the issue

 

[3rd Monkey]

Right but if you allow runoff to remain it screws up your salt and fert intake

How so? Isn't it basically a hempy at that point?

 

[biggysquals]

How so? Isn't it basically a hempy at that point?

Hempy?

 

[3rd Monkey]

Hempy?

A hempy bucket.

 

[Herb & Suds]

I would think salt build up would be inevitable with no runoff

 

[3rd Monkey]

I would think salt build up would be inevitable with no runoff

I'm not disagreeing with that, but it should soak up as the plant feeds, right. Seems to be the same as a hempy.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't use fabric pots, I'm just trying to find the theory behind it.

 

[hotrodharley]

Hempy?

https://www.softsecrets.com/gb/grow/grow-reports/guide-to-hempy-buckets/

Check it out. You can grow some big plants in them

 

[hotrodharley]

I'm not disagreeing with that, but it should soak up as the plant feeds, right. Seems to be the same as a hempy.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't use fabric pots, I'm just trying to find the theory behind it.

You get unwanted bacteria and fungus if they sit in water. I keep mine on milk crates so they get air under as well as around. Just let them drain onto the tent floor or into drip pans.

 

[Herb & Suds]

I'm not disagreeing with that, but it should soak up as the plant feeds, right. Seems to be the same as a hempy.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't use fabric pots, I'm just trying to find the theory behind it.

I can't speak to theory but I do runoff every one of my pots
Maybe it is bro science but when I didn't I always ran into lockout late in flower

 

[hotrodharley]

I can't speak to theory but I do runoff every one of my pots
Maybe it is bro science but when I didn't I always ran into lockout late in flower

If you don’t water to runoff you’ll not hit the true water roots that for most of us are smack dab on the bottom doing swirlies looking for water and a way out.

 

[3rd Monkey]

You get unwanted bacteria and fungus if they sit in water. I keep mine on milk crates so they get air under as well as around. Just let them drain onto the tent floor or into drip pans.

Makes sense if it never dries out, but if OP is letting them dry, I can't foresee much of a problem. Definitely if they don't get the dry time though, I agree.

I'm running hempys so just wondered how it would be different. With the hempy, there is a flush every feed though, so I see what @Herb & Suds is saying now.

 

[biggysquals]

I would think salt build up would be inevitable with no runoff

I can't speak to theory but I do runoff every one of my pots
Maybe it is bro science but when I didn't I always ran into lockout late in flower

 

[biggysquals]

Was planning on flushing and removing all run off. I guess I’m confused at where the conversation is going.

 

[biggysquals]

Are you using RO water? What is the base EC/PPM of your water? You’re feeding too much unnecessary crap. If using tap water you need to know your base. The water utility will have the reports online. You need to know before regular cal mag is given. Excess calcium can cause lockout. The majority of hardness in tap water is usually calcium carbonate. If RO you still don’t need to use every feeding.

Got my hands on a ppm meter. Ppm is 60 out of the filter.