Defective QB Quantum Board LED by Rita/ Shenzhen Meijiu & Warranty Refused

GrowGlowmj

Active Member
What Happened?
I bought 2×800 FOTOP V1 full kits from Meijiu and received them in July 2018.

In March 2019, I purchased 1×800 FOTOP V2 kit and 2×25W Supplement Red Bars

Important to note that I drive my boards at only around 50% of max power. With heatsinks no less. So they should last longer than others.

In May 2019, one diode from the new 800 FOTOP V2 board went out. I was compensated for the full amount of the board at $125 since they prefer a refund over replacements. That was cool although it demonstrates lack of confidence in their own product. Shipping was not even mentioned so its not that, as I'd be cool with paying shipping.
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In early June 2019, one of the older 800 FOTOP V1 boards had an entire string go dim and then subsequently went all out.
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I felt it had been more than a year so I contacted Rita. True enough, she said there is nothing she can do if its over a year. I checked records and found that its within a year and contacted her back.

I was told that I'm the ONLY one with issues. A quick check on forums showed me more. I showed her pics i found online and she had nothing to say.

However, after waiting 4 days, she returned with a ridiculous math equation that divides the price of the board by 12 and refunding me $6! I still don't see the logic behind this equation unless they are admitting that their products only lasts 12 months! This was very different from the first board.

Two boards well within warranty and with the same problem. However, they are handled VERY differently. Does not make any sense or logic! Other than a scammer's mentality.

Two boards from two separate purchases are defective! You cannot even claim a bad batch as the culprit anymore! Yet, they try to wiggle out of warranty! Don't they have any sense of shame?

Their Logic?
Firstly, they said I've used the board for 11 months. Its actually less than that but whatever! Hence the calculation. But why wasnt the first defective board subjected to this calculation? Warranty is not the same as depreciation! One minute within warranty is still the same warranty unless otherwise specified, which they did not!

The best part is they asked me if Apple will honor the warranty in the same situation? Hell yes!

Then they tried to blame it on humidity but these are plant Grow Lights for petes sake! They transpire! Hello? Any decent grow light can withstand some humidity, as long as you don't spray on them! Besides, humidity cannot explain why I have both new and old boards going out? Shouldn't it be the old ones crapping out first? The only 100% good board I have now is an old V1 board sitting right in the middle, where it is most humid among all areas of my space. So....load of BS as well!

Seems like they didn't even bother coming up with a better excuse!

Rita literally told me she has hundreds of customers and I am free to say whatever I want! She was the sweetest gal before my board had issues!

Lastly, out of desperation, she accused me of fraud. Big mistake. I actually wish I'm technical enough to create that defect intentionally. Cos I'd be able to repair it. Unfortunately, me along with 99% of growers are not! But that really pissed me off!

Conclusion
I take back ALL my recommendations on Meijiu and their products. Shit can happen with any company's products but as long as they stand behind it, I'm totally cool. Its when you try to wiggle out of warranty and try to accuse me of fraud that I have to retaliate.

I only paid $80 for the board so its really not about the money. It can be cheaply replaced with strips. Some nutes costs even more and as growers, we easily spend thousands on our setup. So $80 is not even worth my time writing this! I could be growing more plants!

Besides, I have no reason to get this worked up because the lights are still very much usable. I lose a couple watts here and there but it should not matter much. The reason for this is a)She accused me of fraud and b)I don't want anyone else falling victim based on my past recommendations and c)No one likes to see scammers getting away with stuff.

There is absolutely no language barrier as I was communicating in their native tongue, which I'm fluent in.

Its obvious that Shenzhen Meijiu Lighting Co., Ltd. has serious quality consistency issues. Firstly, they don't like to replace cos its the same shitty stuff so why replace? Second, they seem very experienced in handling warranty issues that they have a protocol to follow. They will first make it look like its your fault and offer you $20 to shut you up. Then depending on how persistent you are, they will negotiate accordingly. Mostly will make you wait and give up. If you're like me, they come back to you with a math formula to pay you $6 lol! They can keep it!

I also had an exploding dimmer that I did absolutely nothing to, as well as a bad plug. So quality control does not seem like their strong suit! They buy their dimmers at less than $8 and sells it to us at $16. I would expect better QC than that at such profit margin. Needless to say, I bought my own replacement as they would not honor the warranty. Fun fact, I bought my replacement at half price from their supplier! Lol

I will not recommend them or buy from them anymore. In fact, I will recommend the direct opposite! Dirty buggers if you ask me!
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Kushash

Well-Known Member
What Happened?
I bought 2×800 FOTOP V1 full kits from Meijiu and received them in July 2018.

In March 2019, I purchased 1×800 FOTOP V2 kit and 2×25W Supplement Red Bars

Important to note that I drive my boards at only around 50% of max power. With heatsinks no less. So they should last longer than others.

In May 2019, one diode from the new 800 FOTOP V2 board went out. I was compensated for the full amount of the board at $125 since they prefer a refund over replacements. That was cool although it demonstrates lack of confidence in their own product. Shipping was not even mentioned so its not that, as I'd be cool with paying shipping.
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In early June 2019, one of the older 800 FOTOP V1 boards had an entire string go dim and then subsequently went all out.
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I felt it had been more than a year so I contacted Rita. True enough, she said there is nothing she can do if its over a year. I checked records and found that its within a year and contacted her back.

I was told that I'm the ONLY one with issues. A quick check on forums showed me more. I showed her pics i found online and she had nothing to say.

However, after waiting 4 days, she returned with a ridiculous math equation that divides the price of the board by 12 and refunding me $6! I still don't see the logic behind this equation unless they are admitting that their products only lasts 12 months! This was very different from the first board.

Two boards well within warranty and with the same problem. However, they are handled VERY differently. Does not make any sense or logic! Other than a scammer's mentality.

Two boards from two separate purchases are defective! You cannot even claim a bad batch as the culprit anymore! Yet, they try to wiggle out of warranty! Don't they have any sense of shame?

Their Logic?
Firstly, they said I've used the board for 11 months. Its actually less than that but whatever! Hence the calculation. But why wasnt the first defective board subjected to this calculation? Warranty is not the same as depreciation! One minute within warranty is still the same warranty unless otherwise specified, which they did not!

The best part is they asked me if Apple will honor the warranty in the same situation? Hell yes!

Then they tried to blame it on humidity but these are plant Grow Lights for petes sake! They transpire! Hello? Any decent grow light can withstand some humidity, as long as you don't spray on them! Besides, humidity cannot explain why I have both new and old boards going out? Shouldn't it be the old ones crapping out first? The only 100% good board I have now is an old V1 board sitting right in the middle, where it is most humid among all areas of my space. So....load of BS as well!

Seems like they didn't even bother coming up with a better excuse!

Rita literally told me she has hundreds of customers and I am free to say whatever I want! She was the sweetest gal before my board had issues!

Lastly, out of desperation, she accused me of fraud. Big mistake. I actually wish I'm technical enough to create that defect intentionally. Cos I'd be able to repair it. Unfortunately, me along with 99% of growers are not! But that really pissed me off!

Conclusion
I take back ALL my recommendations on Meijiu and their products. Shit can happen with any company's products but as long as they stand behind it, I'm totally cool. Its when you try to wiggle out of warranty and try to accuse me of fraud that I have to retaliate.

I only paid $80 for the board so its really not about the money. It can be cheaply replaced with strips. Some nutes costs even more and as growers, we easily spend thousands on our setup. So $80 is not even worth my time writing this! I could be growing more plants!

Besides, I have no reason to get this worked up because the lights are still very much usable. I lose a couple watts here and there but it should not matter much. The reason for this is a)She accused me of fraud and b)I don't want anyone else falling victim based on my past recommendations and c)No one likes to see scammers getting away with stuff.

There is absolutely no language barrier as I was communicating in their native tongue, which I'm fluent in.

Its obvious that Shenzhen Meijiu Lighting Co., Ltd. has serious quality consistency issues. Firstly, they don't like to replace cos its the same shitty stuff so why replace? Second, they seem very experienced in handling warranty issues that they have a protocol to follow. They will first make it look like its your fault and offer you $20 to shut you up. Then depending on how persistent you are, they will negotiate accordingly. Mostly will make you wait and give up. If you're like me, they come back to you with a math formula to pay you $6 lol! They can keep it!

I also had an exploding dimmer that I did absolutely nothing to, as well as a bad plug. So quality control does not seem like their strong suit! They buy their dimmers at less than $8 and sells it to us at $16. I would expect better QC than that at such profit margin. Needless to say, I bought my own replacement as they would not honor the warranty. Fun fact, I bought my replacement at half price from their supplier! Lol

I will not recommend them or buy from them anymore. In fact, I will recommend the direct opposite! Dirty buggers if you ask me!
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Rocket Soul

Well-Known Member
I bought all my boards knowing they would be disposable, i never thought id ever be able to get any warranty. Thats why i avoid drivers from alibaba.
Its an absolute bummer but all in all you only lost 2% of the diodes and it still runs the same wattage. On buying bulbs we seem to be fine with a lot more loss after 11 months, and some of those hortibulbs costs as much as the Fotop. Its just that a dead line is more noticeable and annoying.

All my boards are fine coming up to a year and theyve allready paid for the investment.

But all sympathies to OP as nobody likes shit going wrong
 

GrowGlowmj

Active Member
Its very important to note that defects for 2 out of 3 boards in two separate purchases says a lot about their quality. And even more important, buyer should not be penalized for their product quality and consistency. If I get 2 defects in a row, I should not be punished more compared to another customer who has only 1. Its clearly not my fault.

Do you want a company who feels that they can say Tough Luck, We've got enough good reviews to bank on so frig off! Be grateful you got some money back and move on!

To make it worse, we say its ok that their product & warranty sucks as long as the buyer don't make too much of a loss. Aren't we just encouraging them to continue, or get worse?

80 is really nothing. Even lesser if you count depreciation. It was never about the money. Its to warn others plus I recommended them a lot in the past and don't want it to bite me. Its probably also to vent some frustration and like i said, doing my part as a grower.

If they get away too many times with this, it'll become a norm. No one wants that. There are a ton of other companies who will stand by multiple defects of their own product.

Heard great things about Kingbrite, Bava and R2T.
 

Rocket Soul

Well-Known Member
What Happened?
I bought 2×800 FOTOP V1 full kits from Meijiu and received them in July 2018.

In March 2019, I purchased 1×800 FOTOP V2 kit and 2×25W Supplement Red Bars

Important to note that I drive my boards at only around 50% of max power. With heatsinks no less. So they should last longer than others.

In May 2019, one diode from the new 800 FOTOP V2 board went out. I was compensated for the full amount of the board at $125 since they prefer a refund over replacements. That was cool although it demonstrates lack of confidence in their own product. Shipping was not even mentioned so its not that, as I'd be cool with paying shipping.
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In early June 2019, one of the older 800 FOTOP V1 boards had an entire string go dim and then subsequently went all out.
View attachment 4350202 View attachment 4350203
I felt it had been more than a year so I contacted Rita. True enough, she said there is nothing she can do if its over a year. I checked records and found that its within a year and contacted her back.

I was told that I'm the ONLY one with issues. A quick check on forums showed me more. I showed her pics i found online and she had nothing to say.

However, after waiting 4 days, she returned with a ridiculous math equation that divides the price of the board by 12 and refunding me $6! I still don't see the logic behind this equation unless they are admitting that their products only lasts 12 months! This was very different from the first board.

Two boards well within warranty and with the same problem. However, they are handled VERY differently. Does not make any sense or logic! Other than a scammer's mentality.

Two boards from two separate purchases are defective! You cannot even claim a bad batch as the culprit anymore! Yet, they try to wiggle out of warranty! Don't they have any sense of shame?

Their Logic?
Firstly, they said I've used the board for 11 months. Its actually less than that but whatever! Hence the calculation. But why wasnt the first defective board subjected to this calculation? Warranty is not the same as depreciation! One minute within warranty is still the same warranty unless otherwise specified, which they did not!

The best part is they asked me if Apple will honor the warranty in the same situation? Hell yes!

Then they tried to blame it on humidity but these are plant Grow Lights for petes sake! They transpire! Hello? Any decent grow light can withstand some humidity, as long as you don't spray on them! Besides, humidity cannot explain why I have both new and old boards going out? Shouldn't it be the old ones crapping out first? The only 100% good board I have now is an old V1 board sitting right in the middle, where it is most humid among all areas of my space. So....load of BS as well!

Seems like they didn't even bother coming up with a better excuse!

Rita literally told me she has hundreds of customers and I am free to say whatever I want! She was the sweetest gal before my board had issues!

Lastly, out of desperation, she accused me of fraud. Big mistake. I actually wish I'm technical enough to create that defect intentionally. Cos I'd be able to repair it. Unfortunately, me along with 99% of growers are not! But that really pissed me off!

Conclusion
I take back ALL my recommendations on Meijiu and their products. Shit can happen with any company's products but as long as they stand behind it, I'm totally cool. Its when you try to wiggle out of warranty and try to accuse me of fraud that I have to retaliate.

I only paid $80 for the board so its really not about the money. It can be cheaply replaced with strips. Some nutes costs even more and as growers, we easily spend thousands on our setup. So $80 is not even worth my time writing this! I could be growing more plants!

Besides, I have no reason to get this worked up because the lights are still very much usable. I lose a couple watts here and there but it should not matter much. The reason for this is a)She accused me of fraud and b)I don't want anyone else falling victim based on my past recommendations and c)No one likes to see scammers getting away with stuff.

There is absolutely no language barrier as I was communicating in their native tongue, which I'm fluent in.

Its obvious that Shenzhen Meijiu Lighting Co., Ltd. has serious quality consistency issues. Firstly, they don't like to replace cos its the same shitty stuff so why replace? Second, they seem very experienced in handling warranty issues that they have a protocol to follow. They will first make it look like its your fault and offer you $20 to shut you up. Then depending on how persistent you are, they will negotiate accordingly. Mostly will make you wait and give up. If you're like me, they come back to you with a math formula to pay you $6 lol! They can keep it!

I also had an exploding dimmer that I did absolutely nothing to, as well as a bad plug. So quality control does not seem like their strong suit! They buy their dimmers at less than $8 and sells it to us at $16. I would expect better QC than that at such profit margin. Needless to say, I bought my own replacement as they would not honor the warranty. Fun fact, I bought my replacement at half price from their supplier! Lol

I will not recommend them or buy from them anymore. In fact, I will recommend the direct opposite! Dirty buggers if you ask me!
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One thing that stands out on those boards is those diodes out of line, theres a screw where the diodes should be. Never had that on my fotops and they where lm561c aswell.
 

Ryante55

Well-Known Member
What Happened?
I bought 2×800 FOTOP V1 full kits from Meijiu and received them in July 2018.

In March 2019, I purchased 1×800 FOTOP V2 kit and 2×25W Supplement Red Bars

Important to note that I drive my boards at only around 50% of max power. With heatsinks no less. So they should last longer than others.

In May 2019, one diode from the new 800 FOTOP V2 board went out. I was compensated for the full amount of the board at $125 since they prefer a refund over replacements. That was cool although it demonstrates lack of confidence in their own product. Shipping was not even mentioned so its not that, as I'd be cool with paying shipping.
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In early June 2019, one of the older 800 FOTOP V1 boards had an entire string go dim and then subsequently went all out.
View attachment 4350202 View attachment 4350203
I felt it had been more than a year so I contacted Rita. True enough, she said there is nothing she can do if its over a year. I checked records and found that its within a year and contacted her back.

I was told that I'm the ONLY one with issues. A quick check on forums showed me more. I showed her pics i found online and she had nothing to say.

However, after waiting 4 days, she returned with a ridiculous math equation that divides the price of the board by 12 and refunding me $6! I still don't see the logic behind this equation unless they are admitting that their products only lasts 12 months! This was very different from the first board.

Two boards well within warranty and with the same problem. However, they are handled VERY differently. Does not make any sense or logic! Other than a scammer's mentality.

Two boards from two separate purchases are defective! You cannot even claim a bad batch as the culprit anymore! Yet, they try to wiggle out of warranty! Don't they have any sense of shame?

Their Logic?
Firstly, they said I've used the board for 11 months. Its actually less than that but whatever! Hence the calculation. But why wasnt the first defective board subjected to this calculation? Warranty is not the same as depreciation! One minute within warranty is still the same warranty unless otherwise specified, which they did not!

The best part is they asked me if Apple will honor the warranty in the same situation? Hell yes!

Then they tried to blame it on humidity but these are plant Grow Lights for petes sake! They transpire! Hello? Any decent grow light can withstand some humidity, as long as you don't spray on them! Besides, humidity cannot explain why I have both new and old boards going out? Shouldn't it be the old ones crapping out first? The only 100% good board I have now is an old V1 board sitting right in the middle, where it is most humid among all areas of my space. So....load of BS as well!

Seems like they didn't even bother coming up with a better excuse!

Rita literally told me she has hundreds of customers and I am free to say whatever I want! She was the sweetest gal before my board had issues!

Lastly, out of desperation, she accused me of fraud. Big mistake. I actually wish I'm technical enough to create that defect intentionally. Cos I'd be able to repair it. Unfortunately, me along with 99% of growers are not! But that really pissed me off!

Conclusion
I take back ALL my recommendations on Meijiu and their products. Shit can happen with any company's products but as long as they stand behind it, I'm totally cool. Its when you try to wiggle out of warranty and try to accuse me of fraud that I have to retaliate.

I only paid $80 for the board so its really not about the money. It can be cheaply replaced with strips. Some nutes costs even more and as growers, we easily spend thousands on our setup. So $80 is not even worth my time writing this! I could be growing more plants!

Besides, I have no reason to get this worked up because the lights are still very much usable. I lose a couple watts here and there but it should not matter much. The reason for this is a)She accused me of fraud and b)I don't want anyone else falling victim based on my past recommendations and c)No one likes to see scammers getting away with stuff.

There is absolutely no language barrier as I was communicating in their native tongue, which I'm fluent in.

Its obvious that Shenzhen Meijiu Lighting Co., Ltd. has serious quality consistency issues. Firstly, they don't like to replace cos its the same shitty stuff so why replace? Second, they seem very experienced in handling warranty issues that they have a protocol to follow. They will first make it look like its your fault and offer you $20 to shut you up. Then depending on how persistent you are, they will negotiate accordingly. Mostly will make you wait and give up. If you're like me, they come back to you with a math formula to pay you $6 lol! They can keep it!

I also had an exploding dimmer that I did absolutely nothing to, as well as a bad plug. So quality control does not seem like their strong suit! They buy their dimmers at less than $8 and sells it to us at $16. I would expect better QC than that at such profit margin. Needless to say, I bought my own replacement as they would not honor the warranty. Fun fact, I bought my replacement at half price from their supplier! Lol

I will not recommend them or buy from them anymore. In fact, I will recommend the direct opposite! Dirty buggers if you ask me!
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That's what happens when you buy knockoffs from China
 

budman410

Well-Known Member
Bro relax you had to get through atleast 3 grow cycles and you already paid a third of what the official boards cost and they still workish!! I brought my boards expecting some problems I figure if they last 6 months I’ve saved and made more then what I spent. There’s nothing legitimate about a knock off brand the fact they even refund anything surprised me. And yes they do think they can act like that you see all of our replies lol
 

oldbeancounter

Well-Known Member
Meanwell wonder drivers or not that is one heck of alot of DC current some have in their grows.
in some cases a small ball field size illumination setup and add to that water is never far away.
I know myself how hot a board quickly gets once you lose a string of diodes and that was HLG on heatsink at lower output.
Just personal preference, will anything happen not likely I guess.
Did not mean to suggest these boards are unsafe but not sure anyone can answer that also either way.
 

Rocket Soul

Well-Known Member
Theyre quite a different beast to the HLGs. Running them at 50% is about 4.5w a string. Theres 50 strings, not 16 as in qbs. Infact when running at 50% they dont need any heatsink and are just barely warm. Your right about the water being a risk but its a risk no matter if you have a dead string or not. I dont wanna diminish this, but i have a hard time with how extreme this issue become to some.
A dead string with no cover is nor a war crime nor indication that ebola and ISIS will come and get you. Its a 2% deterioration, worth around 1.5$, on a china board that sells for about a third of the price of HLG, on a chip per chip basis.
 
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ChiefRunningPhist

Well-Known Member
Throwing only $6.00 at a guy when the $80 board is still under warranty is complete bullshit plain and simple. Warranties don't depreciate. Imo the buyers absolutely did NOT get what they paid for, and the whole point.

Rita is shiesty. I'd direct anyone looking for Chinese boards far away from meiju or Rita. The Chinese boards will grow some dank, but if we continue to buy from POS sellers then we're only doing it to ourselves. I've heard the others (R2T ect) have normal sales reps that actually honor their word, but my recommendation would be to avoid Rita and/or Meiju.
 
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