cannabineer
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I want that knife. I don't have a deba.
Veterans...Get the hell in here now!
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Skeet Kuhn Dough
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too larry
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Fuel is a biggie too. It doesn't take too much $400 a gallon fuel in the combat zones to zero out the fuel budget for practice back home. Wars are expensive.
too larry
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It was the same here in NW Florida. The sonic booms would shake your house. They still get after it here. But they have to go out over the Gulf to break the sound barrier.
too larry
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There is money to be make in those fears. There are some dumbass folks with K's of followers on You Tube. Someone as smart as you could become the king of all preppers.
Folks buy their cheap ass T-shirts and mugs, and send them money every month so they can keep their stream of crazy shit going. Dealing with them would be worse than working at a prison though. It's like having to go in the hog pen. Do it regularly, and you are going to get the shit on you.
cannabineer
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Lol me, a prepper? I am usually quite unprepared for even the ordinary. I'm like an un-Boy Scout, "Always Surprised."
But I see about the money angle. Preppers love some weird stuff. Look at this weaponized spatula, sort of the Rambo Knife's runty cousin. (How in the sweet name of Mother Hugger does one even sharpen such a blade?) I could have a blademaker whip me up something equally baroque and tap the rich vein of prepper money ...
Allegedly no breaking the sound barrier over the contiguous United States. Edwards AFB hasn't gotten the memo. My windows regularly rattle from our booms.
too larry
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Paracord bracelets is where the highest markup is. !0 bucks for 10 cent worth of cord. I would laugh at labor cost. Even I know how to say tresse quatre cordes where a child can understand it.Lol me, a prepper? I am usually quite unprepared for even the ordinary. I'm like an un-Boy Scout, "Always Surprised."
But I see about the money angle. Preppers love some weird stuff. Look at this weaponized spatula, sort of the Rambo Knife's runty cousin. (How in the sweet name of Mother Hugger does one even sharpen such a blade?) I could have a blademaker whip me up something equally baroque and tap the rich vein of prepper money ...
And I cut the shit out of my thumb slicing sausage at one of my old river camps with an edged spatula. Not a good idea.
BarnBuster
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Staff Sgt. Michael Ollis, a 10th Mountain Soldier who gave his life shielding Polish Army Lieutenant Karol Cierpica from a suicide bomber while deployed to Afghanistan in 2013, was posthumously awarded the Distinguished Service Cross by the Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, Gen. James McConville, during a ceremony on Staten Island, New York June 8
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/06/12/10th-mountain-soldiers-silver-star-upgraded-for-shielding-polish-soldier-from-suicide-bomber/?fbclid=IwAR3_ctsEwUXtXHUxFzhNBdMAwqhDnmK1A0kQxt0v1mPABJmn3Il3QS2G924
https://taskandpurpose.com/michael-ollis-distinguished-service-cross
BarnBuster
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doublejj
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BarnBuster
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9281940/british-soldiers-killed-wwi-buried-france/
Trump to give Medal of Honor to former Army staff sergeant who rescued entire squad in Iraq
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President Donald Trump will award the Medal of Honor on Tuesday to former Army Staff Sgt. David G. Bellavia for his actions as a squad leader in Fallujah, making him the first living Iraq War veteran to receive the recognition.
During Operation Phantom Fury in 2004, Bellavia's platoon was pinned down while clearing a block of houses. Bellavia then exchanged his M16 rifle for an M249 Squad Automatic Weapon and entered the house where his squad was trapped to provide cover fire so the soldiers could exit safely, the White House said.
"A Bradley Fighting Vehicle arrived to help suppress the enemy, but it could not fire directly into the house," it added in a statement. "Then-Staff Sergeant Bellavia re-entered the house... and assaulted insurgents who were firing rocket-propelled grenades."
There, he engaged five different fighters, pursuing them through the house until the threat was neutralized.
IRAQ WAR HERO'S FAMILY ACCEPTS MEDAL OF HONOR FROM TRUMP
"That remarkable day, then-Staff Sergent Bellavia rescued an entire squad, cleared an insurgent strongpoint, and saved many members of his platoon from imminent threat," the White House said.
Bellavia was released from the Army in August 2005 after serving for six years and has been awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star and the New York State Conspicuous Service Cross. He wrote about the battle in a 2007 book, ”House to House: An Epic Memoir of War .”
Bellavia now hosts a radio talk show on WBEN in Buffalo, N.Y. He said on-air Friday that the experience of being chosen for the Medal of Honor is “very uncomfortable and awkward,” but noted that he wants to represent Iraq War veterans, who have not had a living Medal of Honor recipient.
“When you go to basic training, you clean your weapons and you read the citations of these recipients and it’s like they’re superheroes,” Bellavia said. “They’re not real. ... I can’t get my head around it. I still can’t.”
The White House said Bellavia "continues to serve the military and veteran communities through a number of philanthropic organizations."
Edit: Thank you BarnBuster for the complete citation that is c/p below.
The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, March 3rd, 1863, has awarded in the name of Congress the Medal of Honor to Staff Sergeant David G. Bellavia, United States Army, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty.
Staff Sergeant David G. Bellavia distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty on November 10, 2004, while serving as squad leader in support of Operation Phantom Fury in Fallujah, Iraq.
While clearing a house, a squad from Staff Sergeant Bellavia’s platoon became trapped within a room by intense enemy fire coming from a fortified position under the stairs leading to the second floor. Recognizing the immediate severity of the situation, and with disregard for his own safety, Staff Sergeant Bellavia retrieved an automatic weapon and entered the doorway of the house to engage the insurgents.
With enemy rounds impacting around him, Staff Sergeant Bellavia fired at the enemy position at a cyclic rate, providing covering fire that allowed the squad to break contact and exit the house.
A Bradley Fighting Vehicle was brought forward to suppress the enemy; however, due to high walls surrounding the house, it could not fire directly at the enemy position. Staff Sergeant Bellavia then re-entered the house and again came under intense enemy fire. He observed an enemy insurgent preparing to launch a rocket-propelled grenade at his platoon. Recognizing the grave danger the grenade posed to his fellow soldiers, Staff Sergeant Bellavia assaulted the enemy position, killing one insurgent and wounding another who ran to a different part of the house.
Staff Sergeant Bellavia, realizing he had an un-cleared, darkened room to his back, moved to clear it. As he entered, an insurgent came down the stairs firing at him. Simultaneously, the previously wounded insurgent reemerged and engaged Staff Sergeant Bellavia. Staff Sergeant Bellavia, entering further into the darkened room, returned fire and eliminated both insurgents. Staff Sergeant Bellavia then received enemy fire from another insurgent emerging from a closet in the darkened room.
Exchanging gunfire, Staff Sergeant Bellavia pursued the enemy up the stairs and eliminated him. Now on the second floor, Staff Sergeant Bellavia moved to a door that opened onto the roof. At this point, a fifth insurgent leapt from the third floor roof onto the second floor roof. Staff Sergeant Bellavia engaged the insurgent through a window, wounding him in the back and legs, and caused him to fall off the roof.
Acting on instinct to save the members of his platoon from an imminent threat, Staff Sergeant Bellavia ultimately cleared an entire enemy-filled house, destroyed four insurgents, and badly wounded a fifth. Staff Sergeant Bellavia’s bravery, complete disregard for his own safety, and unselfish and courageous actions are in keeping with the finest traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the United States Army.
VideoPresident Donald Trump will award the Medal of Honor on Tuesday to former Army Staff Sgt. David G. Bellavia for his actions as a squad leader in Fallujah, making him the first living Iraq War veteran to receive the recognition.
During Operation Phantom Fury in 2004, Bellavia's platoon was pinned down while clearing a block of houses. Bellavia then exchanged his M16 rifle for an M249 Squad Automatic Weapon and entered the house where his squad was trapped to provide cover fire so the soldiers could exit safely, the White House said.
"A Bradley Fighting Vehicle arrived to help suppress the enemy, but it could not fire directly into the house," it added in a statement. "Then-Staff Sergeant Bellavia re-entered the house... and assaulted insurgents who were firing rocket-propelled grenades."
There, he engaged five different fighters, pursuing them through the house until the threat was neutralized.
IRAQ WAR HERO'S FAMILY ACCEPTS MEDAL OF HONOR FROM TRUMP
"That remarkable day, then-Staff Sergent Bellavia rescued an entire squad, cleared an insurgent strongpoint, and saved many members of his platoon from imminent threat," the White House said.
Bellavia was released from the Army in August 2005 after serving for six years and has been awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star and the New York State Conspicuous Service Cross. He wrote about the battle in a 2007 book, ”House to House: An Epic Memoir of War .”
Bellavia now hosts a radio talk show on WBEN in Buffalo, N.Y. He said on-air Friday that the experience of being chosen for the Medal of Honor is “very uncomfortable and awkward,” but noted that he wants to represent Iraq War veterans, who have not had a living Medal of Honor recipient.
“When you go to basic training, you clean your weapons and you read the citations of these recipients and it’s like they’re superheroes,” Bellavia said. “They’re not real. ... I can’t get my head around it. I still can’t.”
The White House said Bellavia "continues to serve the military and veteran communities through a number of philanthropic organizations."
Edit: Thank you BarnBuster for the complete citation that is c/p below.
The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, March 3rd, 1863, has awarded in the name of Congress the Medal of Honor to Staff Sergeant David G. Bellavia, United States Army, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty.
Staff Sergeant David G. Bellavia distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty on November 10, 2004, while serving as squad leader in support of Operation Phantom Fury in Fallujah, Iraq.
While clearing a house, a squad from Staff Sergeant Bellavia’s platoon became trapped within a room by intense enemy fire coming from a fortified position under the stairs leading to the second floor. Recognizing the immediate severity of the situation, and with disregard for his own safety, Staff Sergeant Bellavia retrieved an automatic weapon and entered the doorway of the house to engage the insurgents.
With enemy rounds impacting around him, Staff Sergeant Bellavia fired at the enemy position at a cyclic rate, providing covering fire that allowed the squad to break contact and exit the house.
A Bradley Fighting Vehicle was brought forward to suppress the enemy; however, due to high walls surrounding the house, it could not fire directly at the enemy position. Staff Sergeant Bellavia then re-entered the house and again came under intense enemy fire. He observed an enemy insurgent preparing to launch a rocket-propelled grenade at his platoon. Recognizing the grave danger the grenade posed to his fellow soldiers, Staff Sergeant Bellavia assaulted the enemy position, killing one insurgent and wounding another who ran to a different part of the house.
Staff Sergeant Bellavia, realizing he had an un-cleared, darkened room to his back, moved to clear it. As he entered, an insurgent came down the stairs firing at him. Simultaneously, the previously wounded insurgent reemerged and engaged Staff Sergeant Bellavia. Staff Sergeant Bellavia, entering further into the darkened room, returned fire and eliminated both insurgents. Staff Sergeant Bellavia then received enemy fire from another insurgent emerging from a closet in the darkened room.
Exchanging gunfire, Staff Sergeant Bellavia pursued the enemy up the stairs and eliminated him. Now on the second floor, Staff Sergeant Bellavia moved to a door that opened onto the roof. At this point, a fifth insurgent leapt from the third floor roof onto the second floor roof. Staff Sergeant Bellavia engaged the insurgent through a window, wounding him in the back and legs, and caused him to fall off the roof.
Acting on instinct to save the members of his platoon from an imminent threat, Staff Sergeant Bellavia ultimately cleared an entire enemy-filled house, destroyed four insurgents, and badly wounded a fifth. Staff Sergeant Bellavia’s bravery, complete disregard for his own safety, and unselfish and courageous actions are in keeping with the finest traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the United States Army.
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BarnBuster
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"A bill introduced Tuesday would rescind 20 Medals of Honor awarded to soldiers who received them for actions during the Wounded Knee Massacre in 1890, when hundreds of Native Americans were killed by U.S. cavalry soldiers."
https://www.stripes.com/house-lawmakers-propose-bill-to-rescind-medals-of-honor-awarded-for-wounded-knee-massacre-1.587558?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Stars+and+Stripes+Emails&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines
https://www.stripes.com/house-lawmakers-propose-bill-to-rescind-medals-of-honor-awarded-for-wounded-knee-massacre-1.587558?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Stars+and+Stripes+Emails&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines
cannabineer
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Why would their actions have been brave then but not now? Like all soldiers, they executed the policy of the nation, a policy established by the Government. This strikes me as a misplacement of the guilt that belongs to the framers of the policy, not the line animals whose duty it was to realize that policy.
As long as we are running Gitmo as an off-book torture chamber and enhanced-interrogation academy, I don't think the legislators behind the above proposal have a moral leg to stand on.
Maybe a posthumous Medal of Dishonor for the wardens of our policies of sending Americns to fight other Americans (the Civil War gets a pass because for the duration the opposition were extranational) is indicated, but don't punish the servicemen. Jmo
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doublejj
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This is one of the reasons many Vietnam vets don't talk about the war, time and policy change, but their actions live forever, only hindsight is 20/20
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^^ what he said