Purpsmagurps
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They know if you can't be on top of the small things you wont ever make metrics haha.
4 32 site xl undercurrent systems in a 20X40 room
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bdt1981
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They couldnt keep me held up forever. The drawing i d*d myself got accepted and i was approved for a building permit today. Will have it in hand tomorrow. Time to drop the hammer on this gig and roll. Will be up and running within 3 weeks. Seeing about equipment this week gettin electrician and hvac guy in and starting this commercial grow. So stoked! They ended up making me get fire codes for any seperations and ul numbers made sure my bathrooms were ada compliant and my doors were labled 3' not 2'11 3/4" like i had them, label restroom handrails every window wall door and plumbing fixture. Architect came out to tell us we had 5in thick tilt up concrete wall with 4hr fire seperation. After my workers get done have to get inspected for certificate of occupancy and change of use since im upgrading to 400 amp service. Last min decisions are being made on either nextgen lights or de gavitas. 4x the price for half the cost to run the grow. Half power usage half heat production half amps needed. 6600 for 24 gavitas and 28800 for 24 nextgens. Difference of 22000. Might pay for itself in one year tho. Seed selection has been rough. Still not decided.
Rootstosuccess on ig has the gavitas for less than 250 a piece, prob even better if buying 24. If that's too far to drive or they can't ship you can use as bargaining tool with your store. Have you or anyone you know grown good flower under the next gen lights? I seriously don't see how they could come close to the yield of the de. Besides your very close to the gavita price for their led and those seem to be a better light. Either way led helps save money in bills, but if you lose yield at all, it doesn't take much, and you aren't saving money your losing it.
bdt1981
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Im going with the gavita sl 1000 de for sure. 275 ea to my front door. The sales rep i was talking to said the next gen will produce better quality overall but wont yield as much.
Im a hps guy, straight led hater. Maybe for some supplemental light but prob not even that. I bet the gavitas at the right height produce as good as any led. Idk tho. Its only about 700 more per month in electricity to run the hps so at 36k compared to 6600 for the gavitas it take a while to pay for itself. The 700-750 is ac included. I totally agree with u there.
Those are the same lights I got and I love mine. Even with 1/3 of the room being an underperforming strain I still hit my goal for the first run. This run should be much better as I only loaded room with cuts I know perform. And yeah man your state is taking off won't be long before there is better flower on the shelf. If your still planning on running from seed, I would consider looking at Humboldt seed company. They are on seedsherenow and dcseedexchange. Not to be confused with humboldt seed organization. Anyways these guys claim to have worked some of their strains to the point that running a whole room from seed is doable. I'm thinking of trying the fire og from them and a few other strains they have look really good too.
bdt1981
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I have ran hso before. Pineapple skunk and blue dream. I was so impressed with bergmans bd and gdp and glue and slh and goldleaf.
At least my first run will be of those since they are already on my clone machine. Im really interested in mosca seeds as well as bog seeds. I kind of want to grow sleestack again and try stacked kush as well.
I have grown a lot of different strains from a lot of different breeders and tbh i havent found but a couple i wouldnt consider growing again. The very worst one must have been tangerine dream. One pheno was decent but the other 2 i got were like longer than 11 week strains and the shit was just airy as fuck.
bdt1981
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why wouldnt a whole room of seeds not be doable tho? That shouldnt de a problem for any decent breeder. You ever buy seeds from attitude? Im tellin u they have real stuff from some the best breeders in the world. Hso is legit as fuck btw.
There are a few reason I don't run from seed, but the biggest reason is I don't like to gamble. If I run cuts I have selected they have already been tested usually twice in small tents. The first run is in 1 gallon pots and is to check for stability and quality of the bud. I keep the best ones and give them a second run in small tent again but in larger pots, to see how they grow from clone this run tells me a lot, I figure out how the plant likes to eat, how long it needs to flower,how much stretch it has roughly, stability and quality checked again, if the plant opens up or requires more training, and somewhat yield. This lets me figure out what strains I already have that are more compatible to run with the new strain as far as similar size and watering habits. A lot of plants get culled at this stage as I'm super picky about what I keep, it has to be high quality and look to be a good yielder. After all that then I load them in flower room and hope and pray they are up to yield standards. Even though all this testing gives me a pretty good idea of what to expect I still end up culling some plants after this stage too. For example last run I ran a strain that I had only run in test tents, in there where plants are smaller it seemed to yield pretty good. But when put into the flower room as big plant I got about half of my per plant goal, while the other plants in the room crushed the goal.
Also one thing I don't have to deal with that you might(not sure of your regulations) is testing, are they gonna want you to test every different pheno, cause there can be a large variation from one seed to the next in the same pack. If so that could get expensive.
Meant to quote this post not the other one and yes I've run from attitude and also have run gear from hso ( sour blue was pretty good but not as potent as some others I decided to keep). I was just stating not hso cause the names if the two companies so similar. I have run a lot of good stuff from seed but there is just too much variation for me to feel comfortable doing whole runs from seed not to mention the whole ordeal I had with my last order where the breeder hadn't done any testing and got some herms in every pack.
bdt1981
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Im not sure about each pheno but testing requirements start in sept i believe. 350 per strain is what i my friend was saying.. At my friends gro where i did all the cloning and transplanting of about 250 clones from about 13 strains and to many phenos to count the different phenos were surprisingly very similar. They were all flowered under 12 t5 in 4in pots. Some of them hit just over 1/2 oz even. Somewhat of a test run. It at least let me know what strains to avoid of those. Im just itching to get the uc system started. Ready to see if i can back up whst i been preaching.
Tomorrow is a big day for me. My gear is being delivered and electrical inspector is coming to hopefully stamp my 400 amp panel ready for use. I probably going to have trouble falling asleep. Lol
From a fellow Okie livin out in Tahoe doing a small op, awesome stuff. Love the positive attitude and energy. Good luck with the inspection, time to fire them babies up.
bdt1981
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Haha thx man. Well my electrician didnt put a bushing on one of the 3inch pvc so he has to come back on tuesday to reinspect. No big deal tho. I been waiting a few months so few days not going to hurt me. Here is couple pix of what was delivered today. Didnt get the uc systems yet and at a glance a couple other things but got most of it. I swear it made the hair on my arms stand up seeing these 4 pallets unload
Well pix later some reason its not uploading right now
Magicole
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No kidding If you have that much to spend on equipment then you should know what the fuck you doing
bdt1981
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If i didnt know what i was doing no way would i have been able to convince my father in law to spot me the cash.
Still waiting on the 3 uc systems, 2 12in phat fans, 2 aaa 12inx39in carbon filter, hydrogen pro co2 generator, cultured solutions nutrient, 1 of the 2 128 site ez cloner low pro, evolution 1000 gpd ro, evolution 100 gpd pre filter and my 165 gal vert res for the chiller and 4 330 gal res to keep enough water on hand for res changes. The 4 pallets have 24 1000 watt de gavita pro e seires sl, 20 hurricane 16in fans 3 bluelab guardian tri meters, 3 bluelab ph controllers, bluelab ph/tds stick, bluelab usb connect stick, gavita master controller, titan controls atlas 1, 2 ideal air 180 ppd dehu, 2 danner mag 1800 gph pumps, 1 danner mag 1200 pump, 22 50 lieter bags hydroton, 3 4ft 8 lamp t5, 1.5 hp chiller and i believe thats it. Lol...
Still waiting on the 3 uc systems, 2 12in phat fans, 2 aaa 12inx39in carbon filter, hydrogen pro co2 generator, cultured solutions nutrient, 1 of the 2 128 site ez cloner low pro, evolution 1000 gpd ro, evolution 100 gpd pre filter and my 165 gal vert res for the chiller and 4 330 gal res to keep enough water on hand for res changes. The 4 pallets have 24 1000 watt de gavita pro e seires sl, 20 hurricane 16in fans 3 bluelab guardian tri meters, 3 bluelab ph controllers, bluelab ph/tds stick, bluelab usb connect stick, gavita master controller, titan controls atlas 1, 2 ideal air 180 ppd dehu, 2 danner mag 1800 gph pumps, 1 danner mag 1200 pump, 22 50 lieter bags hydroton, 3 4ft 8 lamp t5, 1.5 hp chiller and i believe thats it. Lol...
