open show an tell 19

NirvanaMesa

Well-Known Member
I am the neighborhood ,it's rural :cool:
The corn is cross pollinated, the bees were awesome to watch covered in pot dust
Nice brother. I got 10 acres perched on a hill out here too. Its nice living on the nirvana mesa. I still killed my males though so my neighbors dont get seeds.
 

DCcan

Well-Known Member
Cannabis pollen can travel up to 60 miles on the breeze....
And I came this close to going to area 51, must be alien pollen everywhere there. Pollen travels everywhere on earth. Thats the great outdoors, it's inherently risky.
 
Last edited:

DCcan

Well-Known Member
Not even kind of true. From all the tons of research I've done the the studies say standard distance on the wind is around 100 yrs. However the insects that are pollinating can travel miles. For instance a bee can travel around 3miles on average.
Most upper atmosphere pollen that travels far is sterilized by the sun, and I considered other people's pot plants when I left it in.
Then I considered the 50 bumblebees that were feeding off it, they didn't seem to have much else in bloom at the time.

So the a bees won out over the pot plants, that was the dilemma . I chose bees over cross pollination.


That's industrial manufacturing pollution from hemp fields that is referenced, good article. Different scale but cutting off the resident endangered red bumblebees is a choice I'll make again.
 

Jdvon89

Member
Not even kind of true. From all the tons of research I've done the the studies say standard distance on the wind is around 100 yrs. However the insects that are pollinating can travel miles. For instance a bee can travel around 3miles on average.
The 60 mile number was given to me by my University Extension agent in my county. This is a Colorado county that has also had its hemp production acerage double last year. The CBD extraction hemp and the recreational cannabisproducers are in heated disputes with the industrial hemp farmers popping up left and right. They are having similar issues in the Williamette valley currently as well. https://www.capitalpress.com/state/...cle_efd1e99c-c903-11e9-8bdd-73e58f5946b5.html Listen to the Shaping Fire podcastepisode " The future will autoflower with Jeff Lowenfels and Seth Crawford". He talks about pollen issues around 50 minutes in. 60 miles may not be the right number, but assuming that your pollen cannot travel farther then 100 yards is a little naive.. Pollination of your flower may reduce terpene profile by 30% or more. It's a real issue, and just letting your pollen blow into the wind outdoors is disrespectful and entitled... You certainly dont have the right to take away your neighbors opportunities. .
 

JimmiP

Well-Known Member
Not even kind of true. From all the tons of research I've done the the studies say standard distance on the wind is around 100 yrs. However the insects that are pollinating can travel miles. For instance a bee can travel around 3miles on average.
I am not so sure that is accurate. The vast majority of pollen does indeed fall right around the plant, (you're right about that). But we have been dealing with ditch weed cross pollination for years. I know others and myself have culled every bit of it for a mile in all directions from where we were growing. And still ended up with seed.

Now, there are a few industrial hemp farms around us this year and it has gotten worse. The pollen counts for the midwest in August have contained up to 36% hemp pollen.

I love growing outside. So I hope the farmers get their stuff together and quit allowing their less than magic dust to screw things up for us.
 

Jdvon89

Member
Most upper atmosphere pollen that travels far is sterilized by the sun, and I considered other people's pot plants when I left it in.
Then I considered the 50 bumblebees that were feeding off it, they didn't seem to have much else in bloom at the time.

So the a bees won out over the pot plants, that was the dilemma . I chose bees over cross pollination.




That's industrial manufacturing pollution from hemp fields that is referenced, good article. Different scale but cutting off the resident endangered red bumblebees is a choice I'll make again.
I'm down with helping the bees man, and I wasnt trying to make a judgment on your situation. Your one male in a rural locale is probably indeed fine. I just wanted to point out that pollen drift and contamination are real concernas
 

DCcan

Well-Known Member
It's a real issue, and just letting your pollen blow into the wind outdoors is disrespectful and entitled... You certainly dont have the right to take away your neighbors opportunities. .
That sounds like a pretty strong judgement, actually.
No, thinking your pot plant takes precedence over bumblebees is disrespectful and entitled.
These were Red bumblebees, only seen a handful in the last 5 yrs, no way I was cutting them off.
Today, those same bees are in the Aster around the house, and live in the stone wall again.

Few honeybees at all last year, limited this year, and a large non native burrowing bumblebee is doing well because the native ones died out.
 
Last edited:

Jdvon89

Member
That sounds like a pretty strong judgement, actually.
No, thinking your pot plant takes precedence over bumblebees is disrespectful and entitled.
It was a judgment on any who do contaminate neighbors product. And assuming that your hobby level apiary knowledge would allow your one male plant to take precedence over your neighbors potential livelihoods is disrespectful and entitled. Plenty of other pollinating flowers that you could have provided for your bees. I plant native wildflowers and other pollinator mixes specifically for that purpose. Your bees dont need a male cannabis plant to survive..
 

DCcan

Well-Known Member
It was a judgment on any who do contaminate neighbors product. And assuming that your hobby level apiary knowledge would allow your one male plant to take precedence over your neighbors potential livelihoods is disrespectful and entitled. Plenty of other pollinating flowers that you could have provided for your bees. I plant native wildflowers and other pollinator mixes specifically for that purpose. Your bees dont need a male cannabis plant to survive..
They did between when the bee balm faded and the sunflowers bloomed. They didn't need to go to miles, just 5 feet.

Listen to yourself...products, livelihood, property rights, entitlements

I chose saving a little colony of bees, it was a choice over those things, said that twice now, don't lecture me.
 

Jdvon89

Member
They did between when the bee balm faded and the sunflowers bloomed. They didn't need to go to miles, just 5 feet.

Listen to yourself...products, livelihood, property rights, entitlements

I chose saving a little colony of bees, it was a choice over those things, said that twice now, don't lecture me.
I'm not doubting your ends man.. Its great that you are bee friendly. It's the means that are questionable. Pollen contamination does happen. In my area many of my neighbors are growing both cbd hemp and traditional hemp as medicine. When that medicine gets contaminated by someone being careless with male cannabis, I believe that's an issue... like i said, I dont know your situation, or what your surroundings are like, so I wasnt neccesarily telling you you were wrong. Wineries in the Napa valley have cooperatively agreed to certain Best practices to insure that everyone can sustain there livelihoods... I'm trying to promote cooperation and awareness, not trying to put you down. I apologize for approaching you in the manner that I did. Its antithetical to my point. I'm sorry.
 

too larry

Well-Known Member
. . . . . . . . . . Hypothetical pollen does not exist.
Maybe it does after all.

According to my hypothetical grow notes, I chopped a Jack Herer x Shit/skunk male on a certain date. I collected pollen but didn't use it on my three Random Bud X TPD ladies. Two week later the other JH X S/S male flowered, I collected pollen and dusted the ladies with it. A couple of weeks later rot started in, and I had to do some early chopping. The buds all had lots of white seeds, but also had just a few mature seeds. The patches were 10-15 yards apart in deep brush. So wind or unwashed hands gave me two crosses on the same plants.
 
Top