Bagseed Experiment

[Seed of Memory]

So my timer kicked off right at 2 so I now know I got it fixed. Swapping to a 12-12 schedule to get them to show their sex. I topped my deformed plant and snagged a couple of pics to get an opinion on. I'm thinking this is representative of a nitrogen deficiency in my plants.

 

[Mitchician]

I think it's low on magnesium, the veins are still greenish but in N def. it's really even yellowing all over the whole leaf surface, and having your more powerful LED on them will be making them extra hungry, especially for mag. Just up their feed a bit I guess unless you have a bag of epsom salts lying around? If you have, or you get one, make a foliar spray. Probably around a tsp/gal, and spray the leaves with that like every 2nd or third time you do your misting, and add maybe a tsp/gal with your nutes until you see nice healthy leaves again.
Nice set up, good job.

 

[Seed of Memory]

I think it's low on magnesium, the veins are still greenish but in N def. it's really even yellowing all over the whole leaf surface, and having your more powerful LED on them will be making them extra hungry, especially for mag. Just up their feed a bit I guess unless you have a bag of epsom salts lying around? If you have, or you get one, make a foliar spray. Probably around a tsp/gal, and spray the leaves with that like every 2nd or third time you do your misting, and add maybe a tsp/gal with your nutes until you see nice healthy leaves again.
Nice set up, good job.

Thanks! I appreciate that. We are looking in to the DIY lights now but wanted to get a decent set up as quick as possible. I do have Epsom salts. Due to the lights being a bit stronger should i wait to mist with it until the lights are about to be going out?

 

[Mitchician]

Thanks! I appreciate that. We are looking in to the DIY lights now but wanted to get a decent set up as quick as possible. I do have Epsom salts. Due to the lights being a bit stronger should i wait to mist with it until the lights are about to be going out?

I think it's fine to foliar spray in the light but you just have to try not to go too heavy so water gathers right inside the growth tips because that's where the big droplets can form and is also where the most vulnerable tissue on the whole plant is, so I think that's where the thing about "water droplets forming and burning leaves" comes from. I could be wrong though so try at your own risk.

 

[Seed of Memory]

I think it's fine to foliar spray in the light but you just have to try not to go too heavy so water gathers right inside the growth tips because that's where the big droplets can form and is also where the most vulnerable tissue on the whole plant is, so I think that's where the thing about "water droplets forming and burning leaves" comes from. I could be wrong though so try at your own risk.

Now is the time to test it out so I'll let you know. I've got them on a 12-12 now by the way. Hopefully i can get some help figuring out whether or not they are females.

 

[Mitchician]

You'll be okay and I'll help if you need it

 

[Seed of Memory]

So the time has come and i think it is a girl! Any help here?

 

[Mitchician]

Yup looks pretty girly to me

 

[Seed of Memory]

So my female is doing extraordinarily well. I fed both of them 5 days ago with a bit of FFBB and FFGB. They both were beginning to turn a bright yellow at the top beginning on the outside of the leaves going in. I also did a light foliar feed of Epsom to introduce some Cal-mag as I use RO water. It had to be either Cal-mag or nitrogen as they are a deep and beautiful green now.

My girl is really starting to bush up again and her pistils are looking whimsical. My other plant, sex yet to be determined, has surprised me since seed that it has stayed alive so the fact it is still going is a shock. It is also beginning to get some new growth at the nodes though it is still a 3 blade plant. I'm posting a picture of my female and my as-yet-unknown sex plant.

As my tent tends to stay in the mid 80s I have set up a kind of cool air intake with some dryer ducting and my circulation fan. Now it is sitting at a steady 78 and the plants seem to enjoy it.
Cross posted from CP.

 

[Mitchician]

Is that your intake at the top? Do you have a fan exhausting the air out of the tent?

 

[Seed of Memory]

Is that your intake at the top? Do you have a fan exhausting the air out of the tent?

It is and I do. I'm trying everything to get the temps down. They went back up to 82 at the end of my cycle.

 

[Mitchician]

LED-grown plants tend to need a higher temperature anyway, 82 is actually fine. 90 would probably even be okay. You can tell when they're getting too much heat or humidity stress by their serrations all curling upwards.

 

[Seed of Memory]

LED-grown plants tend to need a higher temperature anyway, 82 is actually fine. 90 would probably even be okay. You can tell when they're getting too much heat or humidity stress by their serrations all curling upwards.

Oh then that is good. I had read that between 72 and 76 was the sweet spot. I was getting worried but the plants seem fine for now. Should have my soil in and my pots in by Thursday so i will be re-potting then.

 

[Southside112]

You got a powdery mildew problem maam. Most obvious reason would be lack of airflow and or standing water on your floor. Airflow and ventilation are just as important as lights and nutes. You need to get an exhaust fan and start moving air in and out. Good luck.

 

[Seed of Memory]

You got a powdery mildew problem maam. Most obvious reason would be lack of airflow and or standing water on your floor. Airflow and ventilation are just as important as lights and nutes. You need to get an exhaust fan and start moving air in and out. Good luck.

Where are you seeing this at? As I'm still inexperienced and have no idea what to look for. I do have an exhaust and an intake for my tent. My plants are on a wooden stand in my tent as well so they are not in the floor and when i water i do so in a drip tray and let them sit in it until it is finished dripping. Then I pull the tray out since i discovered it doesn't air dry well. Anything else I can do to prevent mildew?

 

[Mitchician]

I think what Southside's seeing is your slight interveinal chlorosis from the mag. deficiency. Also when you added epsom salts, you were only adding magnesium and sulphur, no calcium, so you may still be low on cal. if your feed doesn't have enough. It's common for new growers to conflate calcium and magnesium into one thing, because it's commonly sold in the same bottle as "calmag", but calcium and magnesium deficiencies are two different things, and though you can have both at the same time, it looks to me like you only have a mag. deficiency right now, so it is incorrect to call it a calmag def. Sorry I don't mean to sound patronising I just think it's important to know these things.
It may be wise to invest in a bottle of cal/mag supplement when you can in case you start to see some rust coloured spots on your leaves, which will likely indicate a calcium deficiency, then use that instead of the epsom salts. I think you can make a DIY organic calcium supplement with crushed eggshells and vinegar, but I can't quite remember the technique. You may want to search for it on the "Rusted Garden" youtube channel.
Gary Pilarchik is a legend.

 

[Seed of Memory]

I think what Southside's seeing is your slight interveinal chlorosis from the mag. deficiency. Also when you added epsom salts, you were only adding magnesium and sulphur, no calcium, so you may still be low on cal. if your feed doesn't have enough. It's common for new growers to conflate calcium and magnesium into one thing, because it's commonly sold in the same bottle as "calmag", but calcium and magnesium deficiencies are two different things, and though you can have both at the same time, it looks to me like you only have a mag. deficiency right now, so it is incorrect to call it a calmag def. Sorry I don't mean to sound patronising I just think it's important to know these things.
It may be wise to invest in a bottle of cal/mag supplement when you can in case you start to see some rust coloured spots on your leaves, which will likely indicate a calcium deficiency, then use that instead of the epsom salts. I think you can make a DIY organic calcium supplement with crushed eggshells and vinegar, but I can't quite remember the technique. You may want to search for it on the "Rusted Garden" youtube channel.
Gary Pilarchik is a legend.

It is interesting you say the about magnesium and calcium as the majority of the threads I pulled up on it put the 2 together. I'm using the FF trio so i will have to check the levels on the bottles when I get home. I imagine I need to swap to the tiger bloom as I forced these into flower to determine sex. Maybe that will have the magnesium.

 

[Southside112]

	View attachment 4419602View attachment 4419603I recently re-potted my beautiful gals into larger pots from their seedling pint pots. They are not experiencing any transplant shock that is visible but as they were just swapped to much larger pots less than a week ago, I'm worried about the roots already sticking out. This is a 2 gallon pot. My plant is about 8-10 inches tall. Is this normal or should I be concerned about the visible root? The roots I can see sticking out look healthy. They are white, not water-logged, and seem sturdy. Any help is appreciated. This post pic maam. Powdery mildew or a weird lighting effect in the picture.

 

[Seed of Memory]

	This post pic maam. Powdery mildew or a weird lighting effect in the picture.

You are an incredibly well-mannered person. Even in the South I'm not called ma'am that often. Not picking, just observing that politeness is rare now-a-days. And at that time I was misting my plants so they had a light haze to them in all the pictures. I didn't have a tent and my humidity level was low. Thank you for the observation.

 

[Seed of Memory]

Well, my seeds came in. I also have someone sending me some as testers. Since I'm inexperienced there is a good chance I will stress them which I'm guessing is the point. About to be time to start a new journal but i will keep this one going for my original female. Anyway, she is doing great. My other plant is still not showing sex but i think it may be developing balls.