Everyone is fucking up their weed on the dry/cure!

[CANNABISCOOPERATIVE]

Over the last year or so I have seen several people strart growing their own rather than buying off the local gangs anymore. I know about seven people who have since started growing, after the grow channels on youtube came about and people took an interest.

3 have had an issue where their plants just don't smell at all, all the way through veg and flower. One of my mates grew 1g/w his first grow, but it didnt smell at all, didn't get you high, just gave you a slight feeling. His setup was pretty good. Another had decent smelling bud and then followed the advice online regarding hang drying, for 7-14 days until stems snap but not completely off etc. Others tried dry trimming etc.

I know one guy who had a great dry and cure first time, but his wife has experience with it and she helped him out.

How many of you guys fucked up your first or first few harvests? Any good stories to share for us noobs to learn from?

 

[xtraLRG420]

A buddy of mine grew two plants from bag seed out of brick weed back in the day. He was the first in my group of friends to try growing it so we were all very excited to see how it turned out. He didn't use any nutrients or growing techniques... just popped the seeds and grew it out with two cfl bulbs. When he chopped it down all he did was dry it and put it in a big ziploc. Needless to say I was expecting some harsh hay tasting weed but it had that no smell, no taste, no nothing going on. It was a very smooth smoke with a great high but no real terpene development. I don't consider that fucking up the harvest considering we got high as shit for very little money but obviously cured weed is quite luxurious for very little money and only a little extra time.

 

[CANNABISCOOPERATIVE]

A buddy of mine grew two plants from bag seed out of brick weed back in the day. He was the first in my group of friends to try growing it so we were all very excited to see how it turned out. He didn't use any nutrients or growing techniques... just popped the seeds and grew it out with two cfl bulbs. When he chopped it down all he did was dry it and put it in a big ziploc. Needless to say I was expecting some harsh hay tasting weed but it had that no smell, no taste, no nothing going on. It was a very smooth smoke with a great high but no real terpene development. I don't consider that fucking up the harvest considering we got high as shit for very little money but obviously cured weed is quite luxurious for very little money and only a little extra time.

Im tlaking people who have experience growing plants and decided to grow using grow tents, nutes, LED lights etc. Ive noticed online too, lots of people getting no smell during flower, or they go through all that drying, then it just goes too dry or smells like hay.

I am slightly worried about it happening to me. One guy has been growing with hydro for like 15 years for his small bistro/cafe. He grew some NL and ended up with over a kg. But he dried it and it went too dry, started falling apart and stunk like grass. He followed the guides and I had been round a few times to check the harvest out and was suprised by how it went wrong, he copied the drying guides off youtube pretty solidly.

 

[Budzbuddha]

Grow experience cannot be found in any book or video.

 

[xtraLRG420]

Oh ok yeah that sounds pretty strange if they are putting all that effort in and still getting bunk. Kevin Jodrey is a guru when it comes to geography and how it effects terpene profiles. People are growing outdoor that would make the best indoor hydro look like alfalfa sprouts. Particular to drying and curing though there are compounds in cannabis known as esthers that are basically alcohols that act as a medium for the distribution of terpenes. Being that these compounds are so volatile they can be disrupted very easily and if evaporation is not controlled they can fade away completely. The fact that the kg of NL crumbled and turned to hay sounds to me like it dried out before curing could take place.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Everyone eh?

 

[CANNABISCOOPERATIVE]

Oh ok yeah that sounds pretty strange if they are putting all that effort in and still getting bunk. Kevin Jodrey is a guru when it comes to geography and how it effects terpene profiles. People are growing outdoor that would make the best indoor hydro look like alfalfa sprouts. Particular to drying and curing though there are compounds in cannabis known as esthers that are basically alcohols that act as a medium for the distribution of terpenes. Being that these compounds are so volatile they can be disrupted very easily and if evaporation is not controlled they can fade away completely. The fact that the kg of NL crumbled and turned to hay sounds to me like it dried out before curing could take place.

Yeah thats what I mean, i wa with him when he put the bud into jars and he did it after the stems would snap but not off completely. I think it took about 8 days. Might be our local area, which is very cold but can have relaly warm peaks out of nowhere. This makes temp and humidity control seem pretty complicated and who can afford a ac unit for their grow lol.

 

[CANNABISCOOPERATIVE]

Everyone eh?

Everyone I know obviously haha. Not every grower.

 

[Gemtree]

Even if I let mine get dust dry in 3 days it would still reek. I still say it's 80% genetics. Good genes, slow 10-14 day dry, and dry trim. Dont jar too wet or too dry experience helps in that department.

 

[xtraLRG420]

I think temperature and humidity are the two most important factors with regard to the preservation of terpenes as the moisture allows the resin to cure and form a seal that prevents the esthers from degrading. How you go about doing that is an art I would like to perfect.

 

[Gemtree]

I think temperature and humidity are the two most important factors with regard to the preservation of terpenes as the moisture allows the resin to cure and form a seal that prevents the esthers from degrading. How you go about doing that is an art I would like to perfect.

I agree but with great genetics you have an abundance of terpenes so it's not as difficult to have a great finished product. Once you have great you can work on perfect.

 

[CANNABISCOOPERATIVE]

I agree but with great genetics you have an abundance of terpenes so it's not as difficult to have a great finished product. Once you have great you can work on perfect.

An example of this seems to be the dilema of our air either being absolutely frigid and humid, or warm and no humidity whatsoever. My ex gf is currently growing lemon haze. At night her house gets arouns 2-3c and the humidity is at around 30%. She put her heater on when I was there and she got the temps to 22c but the humidity drops to around 35%.

We live in Europe and our houses are all hundreds of years old and have no central heating. We are thinking of chipping together to buy an AC and rent a house near us and use it as a coop. Hence the name.

 

[Gemtree]

An example of this seems to be the dilema of our air either being absolutely frigid and humid, or warm and no humidity whatsoever. My ex gf is currently growing lemon haze. At night her house gets arouns 2-3c and the humidity is at around 30%. She put her heater on when I was there and she got the temps to 22c but the humidity drops to around 35%.

We live in Europe and our houses are all hundreds of years old and have no central heating. We are thinking of chipping together to buy an AC and rent a house near us and use it as a coop. Hence the name.

I live in Michigan so I have the same problems. Right now my humidity is 25% with tye furnace running so I have a cool mist ultrasonic humidifier going in a closed room to bring it up to 55ish. 65-68f temp will take around 12 days to dry. I run ultrasonic humidifiers pretty much all year you can get ones that are 3 ceramic emiters (pond foggers) and float it in a 5 gal bucket to do a big room. In summer I run ac with a humidifier too

 

[xtraLRG420]

@Gemtree I whole heartedly agree with you sir. Creation of terpenes and preservation of terpenes are distinct phases that both need tending to. He's saying the homie had Northern Lights though... that's fire genetics not being preserved if you ask me.

 

[Gemtree]

@Gemtree I whole heartedly agree with you sir. Creation of terpenes and preservation of terpenes are distinct phases that both need tending to. He's saying the homie had Northern Lights though... that's fire genetics not being preserved if you ask me.

Northern lights are known for being low odor and I'm not big on euro strain after growing them for 10yrs and now growing us strains. Dont get me wrong you can find fire in euro strains but I prefer the structure and trich density of newer strains. I think that has a lot to do with it too less leaf/hairs and larger calyxes mean less leaf smell in jars.

 

[xtraLRG420]

@Gemtree I had no idea NL was known for low odor. That's a huge factor here. If the genetics don't allow for much resin production or if they somehow just diminished the citrusy terps for more earthy terps to seem more plant-like in general then preservation is not going to help much other than to keep it from crumbling into dust.

 

[Thundercat]

I agree genetics are a huge factor. Just because a seed was from a certain strain does not mean it is automatically a winner plant. Every batch of seeds will have some phenotype variations. Sometimes it’s minor sometimes the variations are dramatic.

Most new growers also harvest too early. That will greatly reduce density, smell, yield, and overall quality. It’s very easy for early harvested buds to get over dried because they lack the full bud density of ripe buds. Early plants don’t have the chance to reach full terpene development either.

Either way a nice slow hang dry and a dry trim is where it’s at when the plants done.

 

[Gemtree]

I agree genetics are a huge factor. Just because a seed was from a certain strain does not mean it is automatically a winner plant. Every batch of seeds will have some phenotype variations. Sometimes it’s minor sometimes the variations are dramatic.

Most new growers also harvest too early. That will greatly reduce density, smell, yield, and overall quality. It’s very easy for early harvested buds to get over dried because they lack the full bud density of ripe buds. Early plants don’t have the chance to reach full terpene development either.

Either way a nice slow hang dry and a dry trim is where it’s at when the plants done.

Yup I run everything 10+ weeks from flip so that definitely makes a big difference forgot to mention that one. Another reason I see a lot is under developed buds from low light or not good light sources.

 

[DankNoTill]

You want stanky dank? Tell your boys to go pick up some gear from thug pug genetics. It is all in the genes unless you're absolutely shit at growing and toast your plants. Northern lights is old world strain news and only a superior cut of it would prove worthy of growing these days.

 

[Lordhooha]

I live in Michigan so I have the same problems. Right now my humidity is 25% with tye furnace running so I have a cool mist ultrasonic humidifier going in a closed room to bring it up to 55ish. 65-68f temp will take around 12 days to dry. I run ultrasonic humidifiers pretty much all year you can get ones that are 3 ceramic emiters (pond foggers) and float it in a 5 gal bucket to do a big room. In summer I run ac with a humidifier too

I’m glad I’m gone from Michigan lol I lived way north lol. But my rooms there were heated and cooled via a geothermal system I had installed including a central humidifier for the whole house and rooms lol. I know the pain of those Michigan winters