Everyone is fucking up their weed on the dry/cure!

[Hust17]

@Kingrow1

 

[Kingrow1]

@Kingrow1

Ive written and passed on enough, the rest is down to those who paid attention. I do see some initial changes back to the real knowledge like what is dry and when do taste and flavour kick in during the dry but lets give the site a chance to progress and see if we cant all get on the same page sometime in the future.

 

[xtsho]

Most people are fucking up their weed prior to the dry/cure. Overfed fried plants from dumping a dozen bottles of "Magic" on your plants are never going to taste and smell like they should. The same can be said about weed harvested much too early because someone went by the breeders flowering time, marked a date on the calendar, and chopped down on that date despite the plants needing another two or three weeks and sometimes longer. Being impatient and trying to "Pump" up the buds with products are the two biggest reason for crappy weed.

 

[Lordhooha]

Most people are fucking up their weed prior to the dry/cure. Overfed fried plants from dumping a dozen bottles of "Magic" on your plants are never going to taste and smell like they should. The same can be said about weed harvested much too early because someone went by the breeders flowering time, marked a date on the calendar, and chopped down on that date despite the plants needing another two or three weeks and sometimes longer. Being impatient and trying to "Pump" up the buds with products are the two biggest reason for crappy weed.

So true. I prefer my water only method

 

[sandman83]

I agree genetics are a huge factor. Just because a seed was from a certain strain does not mean it is automatically a winner plant. Every batch of seeds will have some phenotype variations. Sometimes it’s minor sometimes the variations are dramatic.

Most new growers also harvest too early. That will greatly reduce density, smell, yield, and overall quality. It’s very easy for early harvested buds to get over dried because they lack the full bud density of ripe buds. Early plants don’t have the chance to reach full terpene development either.

Either way a nice slow hang dry and a dry trim is where it’s at when the plants done.

this x2, just chop and hang em whole imho, slower the better. Every time I've gotten in a hurry with this hobby I get burned.

 

[TrippleDip]

Re smell - I have seen a lot of people claim that sulphur is necessary for a strong odour.

The dry and cure is weird though, sometimes it will stink, dry to something without smell, and cure to something dank again. I have no reasons, I just make sure not to jar it wet. Even different parts of the same plant will differ in smell and potency so idk.

 

[RocketBoy]

You want stanky dank? Tell your boys to go pick up some gear from thug pug genetics. It is all in the genes unless you're absolutely shit at growing and toast your plants. Northern lights is old world strain news and only a superior cut of it would prove worthy of growing these days.

Spoken like a true noob

 

[fragileassassin]

relative humidity where you live and your ability to control humidity of your room play a big role. Dealing with the dryness has caused a bit of a learning curve for me.
My last crop, RH dropped below 20% 2 days after I chopped. I bagged some of it too early and some of it too late.
Got myself a nice big humidifier recently though. So hoping this next one goes easier.

 

[Kingrow1]

Spoken like a true noob

Yep another noob for sure haha

 

[Xs121]

Here...I posted this in another thread before

The purpose of drying is to remove excess moisture content, to prevent the formation of mold during the curing process.

In a perfect/optimal drying environment
Temp: below 70F
RH: 55%-65%

The Why....it's all about Terpenes and Cannabinoid
1. Terpenes start to volatilize at near 70F
2. RH above 65, mold starts to grow/propagate
3. RH below 55, Trichomes becomes brittle(loss of potency)

So when drying we want as much as possible to preserve terpene and potency and to prevent the propagation of mold during storage.

In reality...only very few of us could achieve such an optimal environmental condition. We do what we can do. Basically there's no right answer as to how long should we dry, it all depends on your RH and Temperature.

Practically, you let it dry until it can be smoke without any further process...if you want to.

But...if you want to increase the potency and quality then it's necessary to have the product undergo a 'curing' process.

The Why....it's all about Terpenes and THC/CBG

Once you jar those buds in an airtight container, a chemical process begin, starting with....

1. Oxgen converting to CO2
2. CO2 chemically interacting with the decaying organic material...this process is called Carboxylate (ring a bell? A conjugate base of carboxylic acid)
3 Terpenes are extracted and reabsorbed and spread through out the organic matter
4. THCA is slowly converted to THC (which further degrade to cannabinol)

The whole process overall contribute to a better experience in terms of taste, smell, and potency.

This is why you try to avoid burping hence the necessity of properly dried product.

Believe it or not....entirely up to you

See #1....this is the reason why you guys are losing smell (terpene). If you want to preserve the smell(aside from the hay smell), dry it below 70F and RH no lower than 55 (terpene is in the trichome too).

 

[Kingrow1]

Yep dude your part of the reason this thread exists -

Here...I posted this in another thread before

The purpose of drying is to remove excess moisture content, to prevent the formation of mold during the curing process.

In a perfect/optimal drying environment
Temp: below 70F
RH: 55%-65%

The Why....it's all about Terpenes and Cannabinoid
1. Terpenes start to volatilize at near 70F
2. RH above 65, mold starts to grow/propagate
3. RH below 55, Trichomes becomes brittle(loss of potency)

So when drying we want as much as possible to preserve terpene and potency and to prevent the propagation of mold during storage.

In reality...only very few of us could achieve such an optimal environmental condition. We do what we can do. Basically there's no right answer as to how long should we dry, it all depends on your RH and Temperature.

Practically, you let it dry until it can be smoke without any further process...if you want to.

But...if you want to increase the potency and quality then it's necessary to have the product undergo a 'curing' process.

The Why....it's all about Terpenes and THC/CBG

Once you jar those buds in an airtight container, a chemical process begin, starting with....

1. Oxgen converting to CO2
2. CO2 chemically interacting with the decaying organic material...this process is called Carboxylate (ring a bell? A conjugate base of carboxylic acid)
3 Terpenes are extracted and reabsorbed and spread through out the organic matter
4. THCA is slowly converted to THC (which further degrade to cannabinol)

The whole process overall contribute to a better experience in terms of taste, smell, and potency.

This is why you try to avoid burping hence the necessity of properly dried product.

Believe it or not....entirely up to you

See #1....this is the reason why you guys are losing smell (terpene). If you want to preserve the smell(aside from the hay smell), dry it below 70F and RH no lower than 55 (terpene is in the trichome too).

 

[Xs121]

Yep dude your part of the reason this thread exists -

You still blabbering your arse without a single grow to show?

 

[Kingrow1]

You still blabbering your arse without a single grow to show?

You havent seen any of the many grows and pics ive posted over the years.... You cant get shit right so you have to resort to comparing pics basically.

Pretty desperate

 

[quazyqual]

You want stanky dank? Tell your boys to go pick up some gear from thug pug genetics. It is all in the genes unless you're absolutely shit at growing and toast your plants. Northern lights is old world strain news and only a superior cut of it would prove worthy of growing these days.

Total bs at the end. Old world strains are great.

My bro just grew out Dutch Passion Blueberry, it is straight fire and is an old world strain from the 70's.

PS my Northern lights in bloom rigjt now look and smell fantastic.

 

[Cwrighty9420]

Dosido. Stinks every time lol

 

[Kingrow1]

But this kinda confirms what the industry is saying that strains are much stronger than the originals thesedays.

Those with experience know its rubbish just like a lot of the dry/cure info but we cant stop an industry and daily onslaught of growers who keep on perpetuating just this stuff.

And then when giving the right advice and link it to a ton of accurate science all you get is trolled and demands for pictures.....

Nobody cares you worked hard and studied when boveda bring out their latest moisture control technology or the boards fall into abstract confusion over simple issues because to be knowledgable only means butt hurt to those that arent.

These boards died a lot from led hype and never recovered - now weed is shit if not dried at a certain humidity.....

Total bs at the end. Old world strains are great.

My bro just grew out Dutch Passion Blueberry, it is straight fire and is an old world strain from the 70's.

PS my Northern lights in bloom rigjt now look and smell fantastic.

 

[DankNoTill]

Spoken like a true noob

Where's your dank at big mouth?
100% Organic, you rockin that synthetic?

 

[DankNoTill]

Total bs at the end. Old world strains are great.

My bro just grew out Dutch Passion Blueberry, it is straight fire and is an old world strain from the 70's.

PS my Northern lights in bloom rigjt now look and smell fantastic.

It is def not total bs lol... Dank is subjective so say what you want but without a solid pheno/cut like I said the nl, skunk etc these days is boof. I've seen ppl with real og heirloom skunks and that shit blows today's strain out of the water but gl getting a cut.

 

[evergreengardener]

Where's your dank at big mouth?
100% Organic, you rockin that synthetic?
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bro you didnt know how to cure weed a month ago lol dank haha

 

[The Gram Reaper]

Of all the growers I trim for, the ones that dry the bud on the stem and trim dry have the best smelling and tasting weed.

Hang the entire plant and harvest when the budded stems, connected to the main stems, turn a grey color. It seems to stop the plant from from letting out the stress pheromone that kills taste/smell.