kmog33
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Isn’t it.
Grams per watt
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Gquebed
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Classic.
The old "you suck at growing defense"
Whaddya 12 years old or something?
Gquebed
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Which is also bullshit... otherwise you wouldve stopped with the other bullshit long ago...
Gquebed
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Whatever. Do what you have to do.
Just show us 6000 grams of dried bud come from 2000w of hps. Dont care what your method is or what strain or how long you veg or space size.
All that matters here is 3 grams per watt x 2000w = 6000 grams, which is about 13 pounds.
Go get r done, doofus.
swedsteven
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Renfro got 3 gram per watt ? now let this hippy show us is 100 clone in a 5×5 test grow !@@!i am going to get popcorn ...my best was 2 pound under 1000 hps philip .exodus cheese
sandman83
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weight was easy from my last experience with this hobby, the challenge was getting weight worth smoking.... No one wants larfy unpotent buds.
Renfro is my favorite to read at the moment, his grows are awesome.
hybridway2
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Nice!
So you go 2 months cuz that's how long the flower room is tied up for? That's what i do. We just go about it differently. I have a plant count.
I see your work n believe you can get 2.5 oz. A sq'. I know you can get more cuz i know a grower that does, but lets just call that a realistic starting point for an outsider looking in, ok!?.
Yeah man, if you were to ever do that using Good LED then you would hit 3oz sq'., prob NP (Even know its not heard of often) Providing you're a good grower with damn good leds.
I hit 2gpw n was super stoked. Your talking 3. Good Luck, may the Swartz be with you grower!
Gquebed
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Larfy unpontent buds? What?
The larf at the bottom is just as potent as the flowers at the top. Go ahead and test for it. I did. No difference in specs, which isnt surprising.
What was suprising is that buds 3 to 4 weeks in are just the same potency as buds at week 8,9,10 and so on. Go ahead and test...
rustyshaclkferd
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we recently dropped our production numbers in veg by 30 percent, no loss in Bloom since plants are healthier, so their was 2 or 3 iterations that were split into 2 planting groups and it extended our veg time by 2 weeks for 2 months. I'll post photos Monday, they will probably be closer to 20' or 2ft tall by then but ive cut these suckers back 3 times to basically 4-8in plants , last time was 2 weeks ago.
i know almost nothing about LED lighting other then what i used on the Greenhouse Farm , which were RGB lighting and much more expensive then i want to spend on a starting light.
but i want to switch my Veg roomover to LEDs, i do not want to see a change in structure but that's a lof of nuture vs nature, so here I am getting emoted all over like a Gen Y silent disco crowd and the LED army of newb growers who learn from youtube videos.
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rustyshaclkferd
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…...wow
no amount of proof will ever be enough, but watching the slackjawed slackers scramble to create excuses will be fun. hard part is on me now to get my moms to produce 50-100 cuts.
ill do 2 or 3 strains make it easy.
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rustyshaclkferd
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ya, I bought are mars hydro 150. IM hoping it will out class my CFL.
I fi can tfind a good LED ill just up doing with 4 315CMH's but really id prefer a LED for power savings and heat savings
diggs99
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To be fair to OP , @Renfro is actually growing 5 and 6lb plants under his 1ks, but hes also using side lighting as well and hes growing 5x5x5 trellised trees....he got 50+ lbs off 12 plants last run if im not mistaken...So realistically , hes getting damn near 6000g per 2k of lighting i think.....but thats massive trees, not your normal every day plants that most ops without plant counts are growing, 1 of his trees couldnt fit in a 5x5 tent.
I never argued that op couldnt get 3gpw, I only disagreed with and am very skeptical on 100 clones x 2 month veg fitting in a 5x5....that to me seems impossible lol
But ive been wrong before and im sure ill be wrong again, ill be honest, i hope he does it and post pics, ill be the first person in here eating crow and in awe of it happening lol.
Best of luck Op, with everything.
rustyshaclkferd
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skeptical has its places, this is math be skeptical I can finish out a grow without an issue be skeptical I don't get pest...
math doesn't lie, ill be doing a whole thing of quantifying light food and environment in order to show weight is simple a metric.
One I can measure being that I use inert medium, known lighting and known environment and nutrients with a known and fast nutrient delivery.
my unique conditional limiting issue will right off the bat be a low RH in my rooms and no C02, I plan to make up for C02 with training and using kelps for hormone boost and ill be using Mammoth P to help through flower at retaining any lost nutrinets. my VPDS are shit so ill have to raise my RH somehow once in flower
I run zero run off, that's gonnahave to change.
changes to my room will be raise my lights 6in, put down an entire layer of rubber matting for ponds and create a drain to my basement drain.
this is actually gonna be fun. ill try to detail as much as possible for the growers in the back...
when the room clears ill start the max out journal
math doesn't lie, ill be doing a whole thing of quantifying light food and environment in order to show weight is simple a metric.
One I can measure being that I use inert medium, known lighting and known environment and nutrients with a known and fast nutrient delivery.
my unique conditional limiting issue will right off the bat be a low RH in my rooms and no C02, I plan to make up for C02 with training and using kelps for hormone boost and ill be using Mammoth P to help through flower at retaining any lost nutrinets. my VPDS are shit so ill have to raise my RH somehow once in flower
I run zero run off, that's gonnahave to change.
changes to my room will be raise my lights 6in, put down an entire layer of rubber matting for ponds and create a drain to my basement drain.
this is actually gonna be fun. ill try to detail as much as possible for the growers in the back...
when the room clears ill start the max out journal
diggs99
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Well as i said, i can be skeptical but i can also be wrong lol
I truly wish you the best of luck, if you decide to do it and document it, im sure ill be following along
rustyshaclkferd
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my current bloom finishes in 4 weeks, so it will be hot min. but will be fun, hopefully educational. I loath MFer's casting shade at shit they either never thought of or haven't ever done. Ive got 15+ years of pot growing experience and more at growing in general. I understand some of the reactions by the LED army but its not a dick no one has take my opinion that hard
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Gquebed
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Well... not really. Side lighting makes a HUGE difference, which is why he uses it, as did i. For trees that size you have to use side lighting or your wasting potential.
So its not a true measurement.
Renfro
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Yeah, I don't see that happening either.
rustyshaclkferd
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you all get hung up on the simpliest things, veg until they are ready, 2 months 1 month.
I love this game, you pretend to be impartial and snipe small things that you find out of place andthen go see none of it works ...why this is reasonale in civil discourse i have no idea.. kinda BS dude
the scenerio was make a 5x5 yield 3 grams a watt, the 2 month veg time is simply how you get enough nodes and branching to allow a plant to actually yeild that amount with a smaller plant. If that time needs to be 5 weeks, 6 weeks, then ok... I don't grow by numbers I grow and when they are ready they flower
do i need to show this as well.... branching cut back to create vertical growth and lots of bud sites in a small area...this is pretty much training 101
bk78
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I thought this was about you putting 100 2 month vegged cuts in a 5x5
or was I that high yesterday?
rustyshaclkferd
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you are going to cry the whole time this is going to be great.
my 7 x 9 is 27 square feet smaller then 2 5 x 5 tents, imma do it in there and you can cry all you want about it, if you need to move the goal post some more, you can cry about that too, when I don't care