Rusty, here is what I don’t get. What’s up with your current grow? Certainly 3gpw is not something that you choose to do only to prove a point. If I could get 3gpw I’d be doing it day in day out. Lots of talk about what you’re going to do, just show us a pic of one that you did do.
Grams per watt
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rustyshaclkferd
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Its going..42 plants in 8in grodan cubes...looks great but its not set up forna max yield grow, i only vegged for 2 weeks. Not enough time to train and not enough root volume nescicary to make those wieghts with that veg time...
Just a point.
It was never a goal i tried to attain but ive done it on a few grows and repeatedly at work. But work aint my home.
Like i said i understand the skepticism. But ill show. Really wish I had a tent...way cheaper...
Gquebed
Well-Known Member
Ah fuck... who cares if its moldy or not. I just wanna see 3 grams per hps watt. Lol
Gquebed
Well-Known Member
Okay. So show us.
Maybe a start a journal with the heading "3grs per hps watt attempt"
Or something.
I dont want to miss it.
ToneOZ
Well-Known Member
Rule #1 dont believe a damn thing. Experiment. You could be the next big thing. Dont get beat by a computer or a damn plant
ToneOZ
Well-Known Member
If a square foot holds one plant and one plant makes one oz and 1000 watts does 10x10 would you try it if i said to and even then if 100s of peoplw said it wont work would you still try it. What if resources are being wasted ( if indoors you already started losing), and the 10x10 brought 100 oz. Chances are youll go with the herd. Experiement. If it work and your not wasting why not do it.
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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maybe just stop the talk,,,,,,.talk is in expensive..all this posturing is tiring..show him that you" can "do it..the rest is time wasting
so there is only 4 plants..show us a great 42 plant close together grow..we can extrapolate
if you got it down..don't be defensive..be a pro..pictures show whats up..
all the best to you
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Those are terrible greenhouse lights or even hobby lettuce light bro.ya id say that would do it with a maxed out space plan, be around 30 grams plus a plants at 100 plants is 3000k, plants shouldn't be bigger then 12 inches. im sure good LED's woud do it too
at the greenhouse farm I worked at they had this 5000 dollar Philips unit and were intense enough for an 8 foot height over the plants(worked great for our starts)
Philips Horticultural Products — RGB Lights
www.rgblights.com
your Homegrow LEDs are just the wrong ones
Surprised for Philips as they're a leading brand name for lighting & have made a few decent led grow lights.
Dude! Those lights are rated for only 25,000 hrs. Ummm, what, x2 or 3 bulb exchanges. So in a yr YOU'D NEED to buy a new one or buy new chips to replace those. Considering beafing the heat sinks too. Really??? After purchasing for TOP $$$. Fuck that noise.
Another example of the reduced longevity of poor thermal mngmt but initially decent #'s to get you to buy.
Many Fooletos are comparing fixtures outputs w/o taking into account the long term efficacy.
So sure, run your SBS's now against a proper led grow light design & come close to each other in harvested yields. Try that same shit in x2 yrs n let us know how you make out.
Depending on the company & design, many will be producing around 20%+ less yields then they did initially. In your old jobs case, using those Philips would be around a 40% light loss after x2 yrs. Damn.
Thats why we should all have Par-Meters IMO.
Just dump all your garbage & buy a proper single fixture. Its only a damn 2x4. No nred for more then one 300w Fixture.
I recommend the Amare Pro-3.
It will smash that 2x4 & produce much prettier buds then a plain white spectrum. They include the enhancements you need to be a shit ton better then Burple & a decent chunk better then plain white.
It is a 2x4 you're looking to fill with the Sun right? Getting threads confused.
Amare Technology
www.amaretechnology.com
Detachable 90• lens (easily screwed on & off by hand) 105• chrome reflectors, built in (not that white snap on crap) . MeanWell Driver for each Cob creating a fail safe unit. Vero Cobs for the past 2 yrs. Don't mind the old website. New one is in progress. Cree XpG3 Monos, separate mono + Cob switch. 35k cobs. Was the Equetorial Spectrum & is now the Canna-Spec spectrum. Daisy chainable, versitile, detachable case for easy access.
Clean conduit sleeves on all internal wiring, quite/quality fans, Copper-Core Heatsinks, laser-etched, gloss white, spiffy case made of Aluminum for weight reduction.
All their lights are Heavy-Duty & overbuilt in comparison to all others.
Amare has tuned their spectrum to be truly Horticultural. Grow lights HAVE TO HAVE IR or enough 630 + 660nm to compensate. They include all x3. Also white leds have a missing link around the 470nm range. Amare has that filled as well. One SE-Model has the UVB-T-8 included center fixture even.
Now, if i am on the wrong thread & you want the highest GPW w/o sacrificing bud size or quality then the Amare Bar-4 is what you want for a 2x4. Started the with the highest efficiency model available this yr. As well as the best spread/uniformity, thermal mngmt, components, highest DLI, so many options you can use incorporated into the Heavy-Duty fixture. Detachable rails, sliding rails, pivoting rails, x3 Rows of diodes per bar , not one. IP-66 Rated w/ real extra transparent, Gasgeted Glass protecting the goods. OverPowered @ 450w for the option to use bars as side-lights or cover more area. And of course remote Dimmable drivers in neat, vented box that suspends from the ceiling if so choose. With a Dimming knob, not a silly screwdriver that will break the plastic screw & mess up the driver.
I can get you a 25% discount on anything from Amare most likely. Just lmk!
They not recomended much here unless by someone who has used them & because the majority here are hung up on DIY or manufactured lights that cost as much as a fancy unit but are essentially DIY units, they've fought the facts for over 5 years now. LMFAO! Just to all just now begin to realize what I've been telling them for over 5 years now is true & they're all scrabeling to make the Amare spectrum or close buy spending even more $$$ on Enhancement strips that will never quite blend likea properly designed fixture with the proper spectrum already included & dispersed evenly throughout for maximum spectral blending.
You can lead a Camel to Water but you cant make them Drink.
Goodluck man!
Oh, & if trying to save money or purchase something less beafy, they now have the Bar-8-L (lightweight) & the Bar-8 UVL which will finall allow led a true Full spectrum. One that should beat the pants off CMH!
I'M Excited about it. It's 660w on a dimmer, remote drivers MW, folds or detaches in the center for x2, 330w bar lights. Will cost $1250 delivered to your door n thats just retail. Anyone who does buss. Directly with Amare/Victor rarely pays retail.
PRO-3 = 1-1.5 GPW / Bar-8 or 4 = 1.5 + GPW from my experience using these products with my grow style.
Peace!
rustyshaclkferd
Well-Known Member
leave lettuce alone, that's what we were growing
rustyshaclkferd
Well-Known Member
ill look into these.Those are terrible greenhouse lights or even hobby lettuce light bro.
Surprised for Philips as they're a leading brand name for lighting & have made a few decent led grow lights.
Dude! Those lights are rated for only 25,000 hrs. Ummm, what, x2 or 3 bulb exchanges. So in a yr YOU'D NEED to buy a new one or buy new chips to replace those. Considering beafing the heat sinks too. Really??? After purchasing for TOP $$$. Fuck that noise.
Another example of the reduced longevity of poor thermal mngmt but initially decent #'s to get you to buy.
Many Fooletos are comparing fixtures outputs w/o taking into account the long term efficacy.
So sure, run your SBS's now against a proper led grow light design & come close to each other in harvested yields. Try that same shit in x2 yrs n let us know how you make out.
Depending on the company & design, many will be producing around 20%+ less yields then they did initially. In your old jobs case, using those Philips would be around a 40% light loss after x2 yrs. Damn.
Thats why we should all have Par-Meters IMO.
Just dump all your garbage & buy a proper single fixture. Its only a damn 2x4. No nred for more then one 300w Fixture.
I recommend the Amare Pro-3.
It will smash that 2x4 & produce much prettier buds then a plain white spectrum. They include the enhancements you need to be a shit ton better then Burple & a decent chunk better then plain white.
It is a 2x4 you're looking to fill with the Sun right? Getting threads confused.
Amare Technology
Detachable 90• lens (easily screwed on & off by hand) 105• chrome reflectors, built in (not that white snap on crap) . MeanWell Driver for each Cob creating a fail safe unit. Vero Cobs for the past 2 yrs. Don't mind the old website. New one is in progress. Cree XpG3 Monos, separate mono + Cob switch. 35k cobs. Was the Equetorial Spectrum & is now the Canna-Spec spectrum. Daisy chainable, versitile, detachable case for easy access.
Clean conduit sleeves on all internal wiring, quite/quality fans, Copper-Core Heatsinks, laser-etched, gloss white, spiffy case made of Aluminum for weight reduction.
All their lights are Heavy-Duty & overbuilt in comparison to all others.
Amare has tuned their spectrum to be truly Horticultural. Grow lights HAVE TO HAVE IR or enough 630 + 660nm to compensate. They include all x3. Also white leds have a missing link around the 470nm range. Amare has that filled as well. One SE-Model has the UVB-T-8 included center fixture even.
Now, if i am on the wrong thread & you want the highest GPW w/o sacrificing bud size or quality then the Amare Bar-4 is what you want for a 2x4. Started the with the highest efficiency model available this yr. As well as the best spread/uniformity, thermal mngmt, components, highest DLI, so many options you can use incorporated into the Heavy-Duty fixture. Detachable rails, sliding rails, pivoting rails, x3 Rows of diodes per bar , not one. IP-66 Rated w/ real extra transparent, Gasgeted Glass protecting the goods. OverPowered @ 450w for the option to use bars as side-lights or cover more area. And of course remote Dimmable drivers in neat, vented box that suspends from the ceiling if so choose. With a Dimming knob, not a silly screwdriver that will break the plastic screw & mess up the driver.
I can get you a 25% discount on anything from Amare most likely. Just lmk!
They not recomended much here unless by someone who has used them & because the majority here are hung up on DIY or manufactured lights that cost as much as a fancy unit but are essentially DIY units, they've fought the facts for over 5 years now. LMFAO! Just to all just now begin to realize what I've been telling them for over 5 years now is true & they're all scrabeling to make the Amare spectrum or close buy spending even more $$$ on Enhancement strips that will never quite blend likea properly designed fixture with the proper spectrum already included & dispersed evenly throughout for maximum spectral blending.
You can lead a Camel to Water but you cant make them Drink.
Goodluck man!
Oh, & if trying to save money or purchase something less beafy, they now have the Bar-8-L (lightweight) & the Bar-8 UVL which will finall allow led a true Full spectrum. One that should beat the pants off CMH!
I'M Excited about it. It's 660w on a dimmer, remote drivers MW, folds or detaches in the center for x2, 330w bar lights. Will cost $1250 delivered to your door n thats just retail. Anyone who does buss. Directly with Amare/Victor rarely pays retail.
PRO-3 = 1-1.5 GPW / Bar-8 or 4 = 1.5 + GPW from my experience using these products with my grow style.
Peace!
the change needs to happen, cost and output alone dictate a change and i can say i have dated preconceptions and ill be eating those words soon i think..which is fine... learning is about accepting what you don't know is greater then what you do know... and knowing where you want to go * we are here
hybridway2
Amare Shill
There you go. Plants growing for real. Lol!Been reading the last few pages and have a good laugh. What I haven't seen are pictures of "whoevers" grow.
No fucking pictures it ain't fucking real.
JMHO!
rustyshaclkferd
Well-Known Member
ill conjure up some photos from 4 months into the future for you , give me a min...
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Walla, 4 months later!
rustyshaclkferd
Well-Known Member
ya show and tell but not 3gpw
ChiefRunningPhist
Well-Known Member
1lb/watt on my last grow. 73 month veg. Used 17 PK boosters. Got broadmites but after pouring 23 bottles of Dawn I got em turned around. Shoulda been 2lb/watt, 12 T5 over 1km2. Trick is watering 50/50 CaMg/PK booster.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Been there, i wouldn't be bragging about 3 gpw. Lol!