Justin-case
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Every candidate agreed the nomination process should play out as the rules are written, except Sanders. That's about the tenth time Bernie has lost my support.
Russia is supporting Bernie Sanders as well as Trump again in 2020.
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abandonconflict
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I wasn't worried when he had a heart attack a few weeks ago. I was elated. I'm glad he's dying, hope he is dead very soon.
hanimmal
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I dont think he pulls it off and am just trying to not hate on the guy so much, while not abandoning my pushing back on Russian election interference in our society and democracy. I really wasn't impressed with his performance in the debate, it is pretty flimsy and if Warren and Klobuchar didn't come to his rescue a couple times he would have gotten smoked just like Bloomberg did.
But what do I know, I bought speakers out of back of a van once to my never ending shame. Something I constantly remind myself when I think I'm clever.
londonfog
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Russia Russia Russia. I have more problems from white American than any fucking Russian I ever met. FYI more RIU bots on RIU then there is Russian Bots. FACT Taco Mac right ….
hanimmal
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abandonconflict
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You should see his latest insult laden meltdown on queeframmingfist's Bernie therad. He's gone full Trumptard.
hanimmal
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Ill have to check it out. I seem to remember when he said something like 'far-lefties' which was odd being Bernie supporter. But I am unsure if he isn't legit. Ill have to go digging to see if I can find it.
abandonconflict
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It's not Russians making hostility the main ingredient of the Sanders campaign. It's the regular bernouts, just like Hillary Clinton said.
Fogdog
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I'm wrong on occasion but entire threads have been filled with people trying to deal with one of Taco's false assertions. That guy has no credibility but I understand your aggravation over his post.
Still, though, the main objective is defeating Trump in the Fall. If a person doesn't think Bernie can do it, then they aren't wrong for saying so.
abandonconflict
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The bernout reaction to Russia collusion is exactly like the trumptard reaction. If it's Trump vs Sanders, Putin wins either way.
Talk about rigged election...
Talk about rigged election...
hanimmal
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5 years of being heavily targeted by the Russian military about how everyone is out to get you and amplifying that message with the most shitty role models on tv and in interviews and comment sections trolling will do that to people.
Especially when you watch him get a big win and turn around and start acting like everyone is out to get him. I really hope the Democrats are smarter than they have shown about the reality of their situation.
Justin-case
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Fake veteran alert
McStrats
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Russia doesn't give a crap about dem vs republican. They are only interested in creating chaos by undermining our democratic system, and we make it too easy for them by giving legitimacy to the idea that there is somehow an equivalency between Trump and Bernie on this. Russia would back anyone as long is it causes Americans to lose faith in the American system...that includes Bernie..or even my cat, if she was eligible to run. That support means absolutely nothing though, unless the candidate is a dirt-bag and is willing to cooperate with a sworn enemy. I know there's going to be an avalanche of lies and false equivalencies like this in 2020. Whether or not we are smart enough to use critical thinking and not be so damned gullible is a whole 'nuther though..
hanimmal
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I figured the same thing back in 2017 when everything started to make sense to me about the Russian attack on us. I gave Trump the benefit of a doubt, figured he was just like my dad who got sucked into the internet trap (started with chemtrails), since I knew my dad wasn't a russian plant, Trump might well not be one either.
Because the alternative was crazy and scary. That somehow Trump has been working towards this since 2010 when he started his troll on Obama's birth certificate. Possibly earlier since I really think it all started with Sarah Palin in 2008's hate tour when McCain had her forced on him. Just happens to be the same year that Edwards got hit by Trump's friends in the National Enquirer leaving Clinton and Obama to be the top of the ticket.
Clinton getting trolled hard at the same time you see Obama getting promoted online, but more so Clinton getting trolled hard.
What better way to set up a racist to become President than a black President scaring the crap out of white America.
Funny enough, thanks to @Jimdamick's history lesson, I learned that Sanders almost ran against Obama in 2012:
Which would have set up some hate monger to run against a third partied Obama. It reminded me about how much Trump was going on about running in 2012, but backed off in the summer of 2011.... Right about the same time Bernie did too.
Who knows, maybe just one big coincidence, that this happened. Just like the 'coincidence' that the Russians helped both Trump and Bernie in 2016 by attacking our democracy:
Sure maybe it is just because Bernie is a perfect placeholder for the angry disenfranchised people on the 'left'. But can we really afford to roll those dice?
Screw that, I want someone for President who is 100% not a Russian Manchurian candidate, not 90%.
We need to end this online disinformation immediately, and with Bernie not coming out loud against it as soon as he learned about it is inexcusable. It is tearing our societies and democracies apart and nothing is being done about it.
Vote out Republicans, Trump, and anyone else who is passive on Russia using their military to attack our citizens to sway our elections.
McStrats
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I'm 56. I find that a lot of people my age view all of this through their 1984 lenses. The X factor in all of this is the connection Bernie has with the millennial generation. Bernie is to them what raygun was to ours, and we don't see the significance yet. My generation are chronically out of touch with their kids. We're all about to see this first hand in November when they make it clear that it is their country now.
londonfog
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I think Bernie can do it. But people saying they are not going to vote for Bernie means you don't mind Trump. You have people complaining about Bernie taxes when they not even making over 60,000 a year.. hell some not even 40,000. Ask them about Bernie tax plan and they are clueless. People bitching about Health care for all, but could not get insurance before ACC. Some don't even have health care still. good luck with that.
hanimmal
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Or more likely it will be more of the same and they don't show to the voting booth because the excitement train stops as soon as Bernie wins the Democratic nominee and the Russians quit pushing propaganda that our generation has sucked at warning them about, and Trump walks to a 2nd term.
londonfog
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Helll I'm ready to give this country to my kids. I worked hard and raised them well. I want to now kick back and enjoy life and hopefully watch them make this a better place for all
Justin-case
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I thought you were voting for Warren?
Grandpapy
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The Crimean attitude.