Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.

Rob Roy

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I'm probably going to be helping maintain order

I commend you for volunteering to clean a hospital, but "maintaining order" is a little vague.

In the event of mandated vaccines, will you participate in holding people down so people can insert things into an unwilling persons body ? Kill or incarcerate those who fail to comply?
 

abandonconflict

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This study is still in peer review and has had 2 major flaws presented which may cause it to be revised.

1) the average incubation period is likely only 8 days as has been indicated by other research, this would bring down the fatality rate.
The maximum incubation period is assumed to be up to 14 days,
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2) Several studies have shown that around half of cases actually get confirmed. That means you could cut the rate estimate in half right there.
Notably, the full denominator remains unknown because asymptomatic cases or patients with very mild symptoms might not be tested and will not be identified. Such cases therefore cannot be included in the estimation of actual mortality rates, since actual estimates pertain to clinically apparent COVID-19 cases.
This article uses careful tentative language such as "might", "could" and "possibly" to give a worst case scenario. It is an accurate worst case scenario. I'm not disputing it, just clarifying.
 

doublejj

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(CNN)It remains unclear why the novel coronavirus seems to hit health care workers harder than it does other sufferers, an expert said Monday.
"We know the high mortality in older people, but for reasons that we don't understand front-line health care workers are at great risk for serious illness despite their younger age," said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.
 

Budley Doright

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In Australia we have been having problems with people ignoring the self isolation "Request", so the state governments gave them sharp teeth.

For those people who breach the self isolation policy in place the following fines apply.

WA $50,000 and 12 months jail
SA $25,000
QLD $13,345.00
NSW $11,000 and 6 months jail
TAS $8,400
VIC $6,600
And a woohoo for this ^^^^. And due to the fact we have a large number of imbeciles here dancing in the street having a grand old time we need to put curfews in place. 4000 kids hold street party on weekend at queens u here....... then fucking laugh about it. We have 2.5 IC beds per 1000 people and they are running at 95-98% capacity so ya people are gonna fucking die and those who don’t help are helping to drive up the numbers ....... scary shit, scary times.
 

Lucky Luke

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And a woohoo for this ^^^^. And due to the fact we have a large number of imbeciles here dancing in the street having a grand old time we need to put curfews in place. 4000 kids hold street party on weekend at queens u here....... then fucking laugh about it. We have 2.5 IC beds per 1000 people and they are running at 95-98% capacity so ya people are gonna fucking die and those who don’t help are helping to drive up the numbers ....... scary shit, scary times.
I agree. Our first two Confirmed cases in my state both went out and about- one went to a night club.

For us it wasnt a hard decision for the pollies I dont think. We have RBT's here (Random Breath Tests) to catch drink drivers. These have been suspended obviously so it free's up the revenue raising sheriffs to check up on people whilst bringing in money to the states coffers
 

neosapien

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See thread title. This happened in China. People who eat bushmeat unleashed this. Nothing hysterical or racist about it. Just correct.
Even your reply reeks of bias. "People who eat bushmeat unleashed this". I think a normal rational person would reply more along the lines of "the first super spread event occurred in a food market in China."

Just to remind you, patient zero has yet to be identified, or their identity released. So it is incorrect, however probable, to say with 100% conviction just yet that it was from "bushmeat".
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why are they telling people not to wear a mask unless you have it? Wearing a mask prevents it.
Masks need to be preserved for people working with the sick and even public, like grocery store clerks. You need a minimum of an N95 mask and it would most likely be useless without a proper fit test (4 sizes). Dust and surgical masks are ok to prevent the spread if you are infected by catching droplets from spray. Masks are needed for those working with the sick or public, we don't have enough for everybody, just stay home and hunker down, you won't even need hand sanitizer for that.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Even your reply reeks of bias. "People who eat bushmeat unleashed this". I think a normal rational person would reply more along the lines of "the first super spread event occurred in a food market in China."

Just to remind you, patient zero has yet to be identified, or their identity released. So it is incorrect, however probable, to say with 100% conviction just yet that it was from "bushmeat".
Eating bush meat is an issue, irrespective of the culture or race involved, to say it was just a food market would be a lie of omission for PC purposes. Your argument and attack is bullshit.
 

abandonconflict

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Even your reply reeks of bias. "People who eat bushmeat unleashed this". I think a normal rational person would reply more along the lines of "the first super spread event occurred in a food market in China."

Just to remind you, patient zero has yet to be identified, or their identity released. So it is incorrect, however probable, to say with 100% conviction just yet that it was from "bushmeat".
Nothing is 100% conviction. It is accepted that the Sars-cov2 virus was introduced to humans at an exotic animal wet meat market where people were chopping up endangered wild animals is where this virus jumped from bats to pangolins to people. Bats and pangolins and people should not have been in close proximity for such extended periods as nature wouldn't produce such a pairing. It happened because a bunch of people were running a market for fucking bushmeat.

Even gravity is a theory. If you can't accept the conclusions from science because you need 100% conviction, you're irrational and likely biased against holding people accountable for running wet markets for bushmeat and live exotic and endangered animals. That is not racist at all. If you're saying that all Chinese people do this, you'd be the racist.
 

abandonconflict

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I went to a food market today and nobody was sick. Then again, there were no exotic wild endangered animals being chopped up.

Not all food markets sell bushmeat.
 
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