Pandemic 2020

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Poobzilla

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Wattzzup said:
There’s facts it’s no where even close to what you’re saying.
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Your evidence does not show which organisation/government gathered those numbers, whereas....
PJ Diaz said:
I gave you the link already a page back and you ignored it. Here you go again.. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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shows evidence from John Hopkins University, a world renowned University and cited as being one of the best Universities in the world.
I think I know where I will place my trust.
 
Budzbuddha

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Wattzzup said:
It’s in the Bible it has to be true

it says so right in the Bible
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yes it is .... but regardless of the “ source “ , these deadly human pandemics are from a human construct , Mother Nature will always rebalance. You can merely view the natural world around human activity to see it carries on while a plague ravages humans. Animals carry diseases / pathogens that do not harm them but are deadly to humans. It has always been there , but as humans we always assume we are the apex lifeform - sadly we are not. The most simple of life forms can wipe us out ..... and there is NOTHING anyone could do about it . Realistically we are just a blip in time as far as existence. If this was foretold let’s say in the Bible , then what chance is there ?

No one could honestly say there are not even worse bacterial / viral strains just waiting . Aids were noted in primates and moved to humans , Typhoid ( Salmonella typhi lives only in humans; there is no animal reservoir for the bacteria. ) , among others. Yet the animal kingdom still thrives , regardless of our ailments. Humans and human activity show how dirty , polluted and parasitic we are.

You know the old saying ..... “ Once we are all gone , they will get all back “
Even the cockroaches.
 
Wattzzup

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Budzbuddha said:
yes it is .... but regardless of the “ source “ , these deadly human pandemics are from a human construct , Mother Nature will always rebalance. You can merely view the natural world around human activity to see it carries on while a plague ravages humans. Animals carry diseases / pathogens that do not harm them but are deadly to humans. It has always been there , but as humans we always assume we are the apex lifeform - sadly we are not. The most simple of life forms can wipe us out ..... and there is NOTHING anyone could do about it . Realistically we are just a blip in time as far as existence. If this was foretold let’s say in the Bible , then what chance is there ?

No one could honestly say there are not even worse bacterial / viral strains just waiting . Aids were noted in primates and moved to humans , Typhoid ( Salmonella typhi lives only in humans; there is no animal reservoir for the bacteria. ) , among others. Yet the animal kingdom still thrives , regardless of our ailments. Humans and human activity show how dirty , polluted and parasitic we are.

You know the old saying ..... “ Once we are all gone , they will get all back “
Even the cockroaches.
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We’re killing each other way faster than the virus

good post

yes we are a blip in time but most people only think of themselves not big picture. Look at how we went and put each other at risk to buy toilet paper. This is going to be over and everything will go back to normal.

Look at our oceans who’s going to clean that garbage up? We just leave it for the next generation. It’s all about what’s profitable and what’s popular. That’s dems and rep. Period
 
Fogdog

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Wattzzup said:
We’re killing each other way faster than the virus

good post

yes we are a blip in time but most people only think of themselves not big picture. Look at how we went and put each other at risk to but toilet paper. This is going to be over and everything will go back to normal.

Look at our oceans who’s going to clean that garbage up? We just leave it for the next generation. It’s all about what’s profitable and what’s popular. That’s dems and rep. Period
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So, what is it you are trying to convince us about?
 
Poobzilla

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Wattzzup said:
It was 14 a minute ago make up your minds
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I think the 14% figure was taken from the total deaths over the total recovered, where I am taking the figure from the total death over the balance of total deaths and total recovered.
There are more confirmed cases, but not knowing if they are going to recover or not you cannot take that into account when looking at the actual death rate.
 
Wattzzup

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Poobzilla said:
I think the 14% figure was taken from the total deaths over the total recovered, where I am taking the figure from the total death over the balance of total deaths and total recovered.
There are more confirmed cases, but not knowing if they are going to recover or not you cannot take that into account when looking at the actual death rate.
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Finally progress

So there is no way to know the real number is what you’re saying? Which is another reason not to freak out.
 
Horselover fat

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Wattzzup said:
Finally progress

So there is no way to know the real number is what you’re saying? Which is another reason not to freak out.
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Then there are things like this:
Italy: in the city of Bergamo, there were 108 more deaths in the first 15 days of March this year compared to 2019 (164 deaths in 2020 vs. 56 deaths in 2019) according to the mayor of the city Giorgio Gori. During this period, 31 deaths were attributed to the coronavirus (less than 30% of the additional deaths this year)

"There are significant numbers of people who have died but whose death hasn't been attributed to the coronavirus because they died at home or in a nursing home and so they weren't swabbed," said the mayor
 
Poobzilla

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Wattzzup said:
Finally progress

So there is no way to know the real number is what you’re saying? Which is another reason not to freak out.
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There is no way to know what the final totals are going to be but looking at the figures now there is a 12% mortality rate which is still pretty god damn high for just "the flu".
When comparing to the mortality rate of the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic which ranges from 4% to 10%, this is serious and shouldn't just be waved off.
 
Wattzzup

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Horselover fat said:
Then there are things like this:
Italy: in the city of Bergamo, there were 108 more deaths in the first 15 days of March this year compared to 2019 (164 deaths in 2020 vs. 56 deaths in 2019) according to the mayor of the city Giorgio Gori. During this period, 31 deaths were attributed to the coronavirus (less than 30% of the additional deaths this year)

"There are significant numbers of people who have died but whose death hasn't been attributed to the coronavirus because they died at home or in a nursing home and so they weren't swabbed," said the mayor
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And there are people that died from other things that also had the corona that are counting toward corona. So again there are no real numbers.
 
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