Pandemic 2020

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VILEPLUME

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trump sat there with his short thumb up his fat ass for six weeks and a Month ago called the virus a Democrat hoax.

His job is actually to defend the people of the USA. So yeah, I expect any president to do that. Asshole wanted the job. He oughta do it.

His carrying on about masks be stolen shows the paranoid world in his mind. How twisted. To say nothing of his treatment of Democratic governors with real people dying from trump virus.
 

Moldy

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schuylaar

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There's this too. His planning and intuition show stable genius.

what does he care- everyone will be dead, he'll be president for life and it'll all be Obama's fault for firing his WH pandemic expert..a large slice..the biggest slice you've ever seen of chocolate cake and TWO scoops of ice cream for the Special Boy!:clap:

face of the 2020 Pandemic

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schuylaar

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It’s impossible to assess the full impact of the 2018 decision to disband the White House office responsible for this work. Biological experts do remain in the White House and in our government. But it is clear that eliminating the office has contributed to the federal government’s sluggish domestic response. What’s especially concerning about the absence of this office today is that it was originally set up because a previous epidemic made the need for it quite clear.
 

abandonconflict

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The problem is that he is the President of the Unites States of America and has been going on TV spouting dangerous nonsense, every single day. If the anger of the Chinese government skating past the blame on this, it falls directly on Trump's noise factory.

Hell he even screwed up trying to put blame on China, by putting Asian Americans in harms way by calling it the China Virus, and had to walk that back. The power of the pulpit for the President is too much for Trump.

I don't know, it sucks, but that has been the problem all along, Trump is giving the worlds bad actors so much cover. Saudi prince murdering American journalist Khashoggi, Turkey's officials attacking Americans on our own soil, Russia assassinating people in the UK and Germany, China hiding this pandemic until it spread, etc.

We need to get back to normalcy.
Oh believe me, it annoys me to all hell that he is that much of an idiot. It's not the first time either that he has been exactly the sort of adversary they prefer.
But I agree it is flat out appalling how China has been slaughtering endangered species, and I truly hope they stop too.
They also covered it up for two months, which is why it became a pandemic.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Oh believe me, it annoys me to all hell that he is that much of an idiot. It's not the first time either that he has been exactly the sort of adversary they prefer.

They also covered it up for two months, which is why it became a pandemic.
This might be a useful way to make your point, mine too BTW
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How China is Exploiting the Coronavirus to Weaken Democracies
Beijing is using the pandemic to drive wedges between members of the European Union, and to advance its propaganda war against the United States.

As the coronavirus works its way around the globe, it is putting unprecedented strain on public health systems and devastating economies along its path.

In time, it will also lead to political upheavals that are just as potent. Already, we see the crisis posing tremendous challenges to the liberal democracies of the West as they struggle to manage the crisis in full public glare. Closed, authoritarian states such as China have it easier: Not only have they imposed their draconian lockdowns with ruthless efficiency, they have also suppressed information that might lead to panic and quashed all dissent.


They have also been quick to exploit Western weaknesses. China, in particular, has been extremely adept at exploiting the virus for its global propaganda war against the United States. Beijing is also taking every opportunity during this crisis to drive wedges between members of the European Union, which it sees as a potential rival protecting European interests and values against Chinese attempts to project its interests and power on the continent.

The jury is still out, but one thing is clear: China cannot be allowed to win.
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VILEPLUME

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There's this too. His planning and intuition show stable genius.

Glass half full. By Trump not acting fast enough and now with millions of Americans about to die, he is doing a plus one for the environment.
 

Kassiopeija

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They also covered it up for two months, which is why it became a pandemic.
Nevertheless, their ways of dealing with it were quite effective - not really sure on the numbers but they seem to have stopped the explosive new cases. And we all saw what's been happening there, but as long as the dead don't turn up on our very own doorsteps - politicians won't do much. A democracy - esp. a liberal one - usually takes much more time for their eternal debates etc to effectively do something. They could have locked down the entire economy, closed borders, sent everyone home - and saved a month where a hidden infection took place.
 

abandonconflict

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Nevertheless, their ways of dealing with it were quite effective - not really sure on the numbers but they seem to have stopped the explosive new cases. And we all saw what's been happening there, but as long as the dead don't turn up on our very own doorsteps - politicians won't do much. A democracy - esp. a liberal one - usually takes much more time for their eternal debates etc to effectively do something. They could have locked down the entire economy, closed borders, sent everyone home - and saved a month where a hidden infection took place.
I don't disagree but I also do not hope that the US becomes an "obedient society".
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I got a recruiter looking for a job for me under the conditions i get unlimited PPE. Lol
Damn my houly rate just skyrocketed. Im gonna jump on an good op to get the fuck out of here. Sounds like Duke University has a gas chamber that emits hydro peroxide vapor mist to disinfect all their ppe . Thats the kind of minds i need to be around not the stupid fucks that live here.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I got a recruiter looking for a job for me under the conditions i get unlimited PPE. Lol
Damn my houly rate just skyrocketed. Im gonna jump on an good op to get the fuck out of here. Sounds like Duke University has a gas chamber that emits hydro peroxide vapor mist to disinfect all their ppe . Thats the kind of minds i need to be around not the stupid fucks that live here.
I wonder would H2O2 in a ultrasonic vaporizer do the trick? They are as common as dirt, got one in the vegroom to keep the RH up and it makes a fog of mist. These gas chambers might be easily easily made from existing stuff, if I can think of it someone else can too, requires proper study for efficey etc.
 

Kassiopeija

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I don't disagree but I also do not hope that the US becomes an "obedient society".
I think we need to pay a close look at what is happening in the aftermath of the first wave there...
they're currently lifting some of the restrictions on Wuhan (to the protest of their neighbours) and are even closing their [Chinese] borders to not get a second wave of infection "in"... guess it's already in there, but it's absolutely ok to do so because then we'll better see how the aftermath of our lockdowns may play out in say, 3-4 weeks?
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I wonder would H2O2 in a ultrasonic vaporizer do the trick? They are as common as dirt, got one in the vegroom to keep the RH up and it makes a fog of mist. These gas chambers might be easily easily made from existing stuff, if I can think of it someone else can too, requires proper study for efficey etc.
Find the full article in RT magazine
  • A dedicated lab room equipped to uniformly disperse hydrogen peroxide vapor (35% solution)
  • Exposing ~100 3M 1860 N95 respirators to the HP vapor flow for 25 minutes then letting them “dwell” for another 20 minutes
    • Researchers also included bio indicators in the room (G.stearothermophilus) to validate decontamination
  • Pumping fresh air into the room to accelerate H2O2 to O2+water conversion
  • Monitoring room air toxicity until acceptable to enter (~4 hours)
  • “Smell testing” masks for H2O2
  • Inspecting masks to ensure physical integrity
  • Fit testing masks on two subjects with differing facial sizes/structures
  • Process repeated.
 

abandonconflict

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I think we need to pay a close look at what is happening in the aftermath of the first wave there...
they're currently lifting some of the restrictions on Wuhan (to the protest of their neighbours) and are even closing their [Chinese] borders to not get a second wave of infection "in"... guess it's already in there, but it's absolutely ok to do so because then we'll better see how the aftermath of our lockdowns may play out in say, 3-4 weeks?
I don't believe any of the stats coming out of PRC. This thing started in mid November. That was 5 and a half months ago. It started in Italy less than 6 weeks ago.
 

rkymtnman

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Find the full article in RT magazine
  • A dedicated lab room equipped to uniformly disperse hydrogen peroxide vapor (35% solution)
  • Exposing ~100 3M 1860 N95 respirators to the HP vapor flow for 25 minutes then letting them “dwell” for another 20 minutes
    • Researchers also included bio indicators in the room (G.stearothermophilus) to validate decontamination
  • Pumping fresh air into the room to accelerate H2O2 to O2+water conversion
  • Monitoring room air toxicity until acceptable to enter (~4 hours)
  • “Smell testing” masks for H2O2
  • Inspecting masks to ensure physical integrity
  • Fit testing masks on two subjects with differing facial sizes/structures
  • Process repeated.
a cheap ozone generator off ebay and put all your ppe in an enclosed room would kill anything too. and you don't have to move all the way to North Carolina. 10 minutes outside of Durham is just a backwards as OK.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think we need to pay a close look at what is happening in the aftermath of the first wave there...
they're currently lifting some of the restrictions on Wuhan (to the protest of their neighbours) and are even closing their [Chinese] borders to not get a second wave of infection "in"... guess it's already in there, but it's absolutely ok to do so because then we'll better see how the aftermath of our lockdowns may play out in say, 3-4 weeks?
The more the chinese control this pandemic the better, chinese factories have been cranking out PPE and other equipment required for this crises for a couple of months now in epic volumes. They like to make money too and the fraction of the aid donated for PR purposes will pay big dividends, they will be seen as "attoning" for this, with their aid and massive shipments of equipment and supplies (for a profit). It's a win win for them, make money and earn forgiveness. There is also the loss of "face"to consider and this will help to slather on the make up and put lipstick on the pig.
 
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